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14 years ago
When TC opens this year.. this at the moment is the kid I want to see.. I think between him and Jones with a year under their belt we are going to see a bookend for Matthews appear..

http://packers.com/news/stories/2010/04/08/1/ 


by Mike Spofford, Packers.com
posted 04/08/2010

Last spring during mini-camps and OTAs, as he made the transition from college defensive end to professional outside linebacker, non-drafted rookie Cyril Obiozor faced challenges from all directions.

Physically, he was learning the new position in his first NFL practices at a robust 270 pounds, having trained all winter believing he would be drafted as a hand-on-the-ground defensive end. Instead, his down lineman's body was in a stand-up position.

"Looking around I was like, 'I can't do it at this weight,'" Obiozor said.

Mentally, Obiozor was feeling a bit overwhelmed as well. He was doing his best with new defensive coordinator Dom Capers' thick 3-4 playbook, but it was a lot to absorb, with more responsibilities required than at his old defensive end spot.

"They put the whole thing in at once, just handed it to us," Obiozor said. "I'm like, 'Wow.' A set of plays can seem like a different language if you don't understand how it corresponds to you."

Given all that, it's a notable achievement that Obiozor is still with the Green Bay Packers in year two. But there was simply too much raw athletic ability in the former Texas A&M standout for the Packers not to at least see what might come of it, given some time.

First, Obiozor took care of the physical challenge, using the five-week break between the end of OTAs and the start of training camp to "lean up," as he put it, to 251 pounds, a much more comfortable weight for an outside linebacker.

Then, while continuing to digest the playbook in bits and pieces, Obiozor put on display his considerable athleticism, speed and strength. It wasn't unusual in training camp to see him beating offensive lineman in one-on-one pass-rushing drills or pressuring the quarterback in the backfield during 11-on-11 periods.

It was almost impossible not to notice his impact, nor, however, outside linebackers coach Kevin Greene getting in his ear after nearly every snap.

"It wasn't my abilities, it was like, 'Obi, you were supposed to hit the B gap instead of the C gap on that play,'" Obiozor said. "It was kind of difficult, and I tried to get acclimated as soon as I could. But there's so many different intricacies in the defense that you're not aware of when you have your hand on the ground and you rush all the time. I had to learn a different level of the game, and it's not easily done.

"I'm starting to realize it really is important, because in this defense, if one person doesn't do the right thing, everything else is ... botched."

It's that more thorough understanding of the defensive scheme that Obiozor hopes to bring into his second season and show the Packers he's worthy of a roster spot, from the beginning this time.

Last year he was cut at the end of training camp, re-signed to the practice squad and then eventually elevated to the active roster for the final five regular-season games and the playoffs, when he played mostly on special teams and took a few snaps on defense.

He said he felt "almost game-ready" by the end of the season to play outside linebacker, a reflection of just how far away he was when training camp began. But the progress was evident, and if he makes the kinds of strides many second-year NFL players make, he certainly has a chance to see the field in 2010.

With the free-agent departure of Aaron Kampman to Jacksonville, the Packers will be looking to develop a pass rusher at outside linebacker to complement Pro Bowler Clay Matthews. Fellow second-year pro Brad Jones is the leading candidate at the moment, followed by veteran Brady Poppinga, but the competition also could include Jeremy Thompson (depending on his health as he returns from a neck injury), Obiozor and/or another acquisition or two via the draft.

In many ways, the odds are still stacked against Obiozor, but he doesn't necessarily see it that way, not with how far he's come already.

While he's working on getting stronger and more explosive during the current offseason program, he's dedicating just as much effort to film study and the mental side of the game, to prove to the coaching staff he fully grasps the playbook, and the big picture on defense.

"It's knowing where I fit in the scheme and knowing how to play the scheme," Obiozor said. "Athletically there's no problem. It's just schematically, I have to hone in."

Using his speed and athleticism to blaze down the field covering kickoffs and punts will help him make the roster as well. He recorded two special teams tackles in the six total contests he played last year, and special-teams contributions always factor into roster decisions involving young players who aren't locked in as starters.

But his goal is to be truly "game-ready" at outside linebacker in 2010, another challenge he intends to meet.

"It's about getting the trust from the coaching staff that I can execute what they tell me to execute," he said. "That's the most important factor. That's what I'm working on."


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Dulak
14 years ago
cool article - I hope jeremy thompson sees a chiropractor and comes back healthy. ie he must be good if he was going to start at ROLB last year and then got injured.

I hope we get a upgrade in our LOLB position ...
British
14 years ago
With the jump players make from year 1 to year 2 I'm excited to see what Jones and Obi bring to the party in training camp.

Even if we draft an OLB high these two guys already have a headstart by knowing the playbook.

Personally I think we can leave OLB to the mid rounds in this draft where there seems to be quite some depth anyway.
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millertime
14 years ago

With the jump players make from year 1 to year 2 I'm excited to see what Jones and Obi bring to the party in training camp.

Even if we draft an OLB high these two guys already have a headstart by knowing the playbook.

Personally I think we can leave OLB to the mid rounds in this draft where there seems to be quite some depth anyway.

"British" wrote:



Football is about two things. Getting to their QB, and protecting yours. Our team struggled with both of those at points during last season. Therefore, anyone who could help in those area would be a great addition.

If I'm TT, my draft looks like this.

1. Highest rated OLB or OT available.
2. Highest rated player at position not picked in round one.
3. Safety or Kick Returner
4. Whoever wasn't picked in round 3.

Then add warm bodies at CB, OC/OG, a punter, and a blocking TE with the rest of the picks.
British
14 years ago

With the jump players make from year 1 to year 2 I'm excited to see what Jones and Obi bring to the party in training camp.

Even if we draft an OLB high these two guys already have a headstart by knowing the playbook.

Personally I think we can leave OLB to the mid rounds in this draft where there seems to be quite some depth anyway.

"millertime" wrote:



Football is about two things. Getting to their QB, and protecting yours. Our team struggled with both of those at points during last season. Therefore, anyone who could help in those area would be a great addition.

If I'm Ted Thompson, my draft looks like this.

1. Highest rated OLB or OT available.
2. Highest rated player at position not picked in round one.
3. Safety or Kick Returner
4. Whoever wasn't picked in round 3.

Then add warm bodies at CB, OC/OG, a punter, and a blocking TE with the rest of the picks.

"British" wrote:



I'd be happy if it all fell nicely like that so we got our needs filled, but Ted Thompson doesn't appear to draft that way.

As fans we know the needs of our team more than the quality of the prospects. But GMs have draft boards with carefully created values for each and every player.

And we know Ted Thompson isn't going to overlook a blue chip player in order to drop a couple of tiers for 'the next best' player at a position of need.
Ted Thompson always refers to the Portland Trailblazers not picking Michael Jordan because they were deep at his position.

Likewise if Dez Bryant or Eric Berry are available at our second round pick (no way it happens I know) then it's likely Ted Thompson will pick them despite them not fitting your requirements for those picks.

And that's how the best drafters do it, you stick to your board, within reason, and take what the draft gives you.
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago

I'd be happy if it all fell nicely like that so we got our needs filled, but Ted Thompson doesn't appear to draft that way.

As fans we know the needs of our team more than the quality of the prospects. But GMs have draft boards with carefully created values for each and every player.

And we know Ted Thompson isn't going to overlook a blue chip player in order to drop a couple of tiers for 'the next best' player at a position of need.

"British" wrote:



I'd argue Ted has primarily drafted for need: he has taken the Best Available Player at positions of needs (almost always). Last year he pretty much said as much when it was revealed Crabtree was the top player on the Packers board, and Ted said they factored need into the decision to select Raji.

Someone recently pointed out something interesting to me: Ted doesn't take projects in the first round. He elaborated: Hawk - you knew he'd make the transition unlike Vernon Davis; Harrell - questions over injuries, but no one was calling him a project because of NFL caliber with his strength and burst off the snap; Raji - strength and quickness of NFL caliber D-linemen; Mathews - biggest question on him was his limited experience starting in college, but you couldn't question his speed and fact that he was a 3-down LB in College that covered TEs and hit hard.

SO, when you start looking at some of the projections people are making in Mock Drafts, and some other players that should be around - OT Bruce Campbelle, DE/OLB Jason Pierre-Paul, etc. - then you start to wonder if Ted has interest in them in the first round. Beyond their athleticism, there are concerns over if they can be molded into productive players. There hasn't been much questions like that if you look at the above first rounders.

I'm not saying Ted should stay away from drafting an OT in the first. I AM trying to say that beyond 2-3 specific Tackles, I don' believe he'll be willing to take a "boom or bust" player (tackles, especially) at 23. Too much uncertainty for Ted in the first round means he is likely going to stay away.

Get into the later rounds, though, and you can see Ted really loves to select such players - athletic and measurable through the roof, but production not really evident in College and questions about whether they can make transition to NFL.
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British
14 years ago
I'm almost certain Campbell and JPP are not going to interest Ted Thompson in the 1st for the reasons stated. Ted Thompson is on record as saying he draws up his draft board on game tape and that Combine numbers hardly change it at all.

Workout warriors like those two, who haven't shown that are players yet, are not likely to interest him imo.

My issue is that I don't think Ted Thompson says: "Ok, I'm going to draft the next best OT or OLB". He pretty much sticks to his board and when the value is pretty even but the need is much stronger one way or the other, like with Crabtree and Raji, he's happy to take the more needed pick.

This year we're even more in a position not to 'reach' down a tier as we don't have any 'must-fill' needs. We're in need of future starters and depth players so we can afford to grab the best value at the top of the draft even more than normal.
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