Draft Day Memories 2009· Page 4

Packers_Finland
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14 years ago

In all fairness, the Vikings were one missed field goal from the Super Bowl.

But my point was purely hindsight, of course: no one could have known then that the primary driver behind Culpepper's amazing season was not Culpepper himself but Moss. Moss has a knack for making decent quarterbacks (and that's what I consider Brady, definitely NOT elite) look amazing.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

Tom Brady had amazing seasons even before Moss came into town. Yes, Brady is elite.

(for the record 28-to-14 TD-INT ratio seasons are amazing and are rare).

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Zero2Cool
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14 years ago

#32

(for the record 28-to-14 TD-INT ratio seasons are amazing and are rare).

"Packers_Finland" wrote:

I got curious.

Out of the 18 QB's who threw for 20 TD's or more, 9 of them had a 2 TD's to 1 INT ratio.

The difference column was calculated by (INT total * 2) - TD's)

Example : Favre = (7 INT's * 2) is 14 - TD total of 33) gives him a -19 difference, which is amazing.

	                 TD	INT	Difference
Brett Favre 	MIN 	33	7	-19
Aaron Rodgers 	GB 	30	7	-16
Drew Brees 	NO 	34	11	-12
Philip Rivers 	SD 	28	9	-10
Tony Romo 	DAL 	26	9	-8
Donovan McNabb 	PHI 	22	10	-2
Roethlisberger 	PIT 	26	12	-2
Tom Brady 	NE 	28	13	-2
Peyton Manning 	IND 	33	16	-1
Eli Manning 	NYG 	27	14	1
Matt Schaub  	 HOU  	29	15	1
Kurt Warner 	ARI 	26	14	2
Kyle Orton 	DEN 	21	12	3
Joe Flacco 	BAL 	21	12	3
Carson Palmer 	CIN 	21	13	5
Matt Ryan 	ATL 	22	14	6
Jason Campbell 	WAS 	20	15	10
Jay Cutler 	CHI 	27	26	25

Tom Brady has had I think it was 7 seasons where he's thrown 2:1 TD to INT or one or two shy of meeting that criteria. Which, is very good.

Packers_Finland
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14 years ago

#33

Wow, that many QBs had double the TDs than they had INTs. Weird. Last year was great for Quarterbacks.

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Zero2Cool
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14 years ago

#34

Wow, that many QBs had double the TDs than they had INTs. Weird. Last year was great for Quarterbacks.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:

lol I said the same thing. I had to check it again to make sure I didn't look at the wrong column for TD's and INT's.

Edit, 7 out of the 10 QB's who threw for more than 20 TD's in '08 had a 2:1 or better TD to INT ratio.

Edit2, 4 out of the 13 QB's who threw for more than 20 TD's in '07 had a 2:1 or better TD to INT ratio.

zombieslayer
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14 years ago

#35

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

Vat?

Tom Brady is arguably the best player of the 00s.

Brady didn't have the luxury of elite WRs until 2007, then in 2007, he puts up the best season ever by a QB. He would have been unstoppable in 2008 and the Patriots were favored to win the SB for a reason. Then he got his knee torn. Then he came back in 2009 and got Comeback Player of the Year with 28 TDs and 4300+ yards.

One thing I liked seeing was Brady continually making an ass out of Peyton Manning every time they face each other. Manning will try to force things, throw lots of INTs, and Brady would play cool and win the game.

Brady's SB performances aren't up to par with Joe Montana (no one came close), but there were pretty good, except for '07 when the Giants put him on his ass the whole game. That was the one time I saw Brady lose his cool.

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Pack93z
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13 years ago

#36

Hey what about Carroll.....aaaaahhhhhhh (gets dragged to hell by shadow spirits for mentioning the name that shall not be mentioned)

"vikesrule" wrote:

Hey... why you giving the gnome any ideas... lol. ;)

"Lynn_Dickey" wrote:

Ha....I was hoping he would mention the name that shall not be mentioned and deal with the bad luck. Right now I have killed 3 chickens and spread their blood around to ward off the voodoo spirits for my transgression.

"pack93z" wrote:

Dang you Dickey, I was holding Carroll in reserve. With 93z, one needs all the ammo available.

However I do like your thoughts on warding off the evil spirits. I shall remember that technique the next time that my daughter-in-law shows up at my home wearing that disgusting #85 Greg Jennings jersey.
Evil girl.

OK, back to Profiles of great moments in Packers draft history.....

1981 - Rich Campbell, QB - Packer #1 Draft pick, selected sixth overall
(taken before Ronnie Lott, Mike Singletary, Mark May)

Out of the University of California, Rich Campbell was a college All-American. Despite a knee injury that cut short his senior season, Campbell passed for 7,174 yards in his college career. It was a school record at the time and is still fourth-best in Cal history.

Selected as a can't-miss pick, Campbell was a major disappointment with the Packers. He appeared in only seven games over four years, completing 31 of 68 passes for 386 yards, with 3 touchdowns and 9 interceptions, His career quarterback rating was a whopping 38.8. A religious-studies major in college, Campbell entered a seminary after leaving the Packers and became a Baptist minister.

Forrest Gregg thought Rich Campbell was going to be the Green Bay Packers' quarterback of the future. Campbell's utter failure certainly helped along Gregg's resignation three years later.

"Lynn_Dickey" wrote:

I forgot one to add to this list...

Darrion Scott, 3rd round 2004 Draft

BTW.. how the hell does a scumbag like this get a second chance in the NFL?

http://www.startribune.com/local/west/24008709.html?location_refer=Vikings

A former Minnesota Vikings player admitted that putting a plastic dry cleaning bag over his 2-year-old son's head was "stupid and reckless" and pleaded guilty Monday to child endangerment.

Darrion Scott, 26, entered the plea on the day that jury selection was scheduled to begin for felony third-degree assault and domestic assault by strangulation following the April 28 incident at his Eden Prairie townhouse.

According to the criminal complaint, the boy's mother heard the child's muffled cries and found Scott, 6 feet 3 inches and 290 pounds, holding the bag over the boy's head. She said that the boy was on his back on the floor, his legs kicking, and that Scott was holding the bag tightly around the boy's neck.

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