jdspacker4
13 years ago

The two examples that come to me off the top of my head where javon walker in denver and randy moss in oakland.

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I don't think Moss cared about a thing while he was in Oakland. Of course he had no QB to even get him the ball while he was there. Culpepper had his greatest years when he was throwing to Moss at the top of his game so Moss probably made Culpepper look a lot better than he is. Walker had his best year as a packer and a pretty decent year his first year in Denver. In Green Bay Favre was his QB and would always throw the ball to him when he was covered. Usually Walker was taller than whoever was covering him and Favre would put the ball somewhere Walker could make a play on it first before the defensive back. Favre made Walker look better though Walker probably doesn't agree. Walker had Jake Plummer and Jay Cutler his first year in Denver and had a decent year. He has done nothing since then rather you wish to blame it on injury, the WR or the QB.

I think Rodgers is currently one of the top QB's in the NFL he does have good receivers at this time and will continue to be one of the best regardless if he has great WR's or not. I think they currently help each other out. I think as long as Rodgers has protection from the O-line he could make an ok WR look a lot better than they actually are with his arm strength and accuarcy. I hate thinking about the playoff loss to the Cardinals when he missed Jennings wide open, but the O-line wasn't giving him much of a chance even though they definitely turned things around the 2nd half of the year. Though I think the only thing that let us down in the playoff game was our defense with the amount of points that offense put up. Rodgers definitely has ability to make WR's look great and not diminish their role in our offense.
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Dulak
13 years ago

Dexter hit the nail on the head.
If you don't have a decent QB that can get the ball to the WR's, it doesn't matter how good the WR is. If you have both a good WR and good QB, they both will flourish.

I think a great QB can make a so-so WR look better.
But a great WR won't make a so-so QB look better, if said QB can't get the ball to him.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:


I think Fin and Donald Driver can make Rodgers look better. One handed catches with DBs draped all over them, diving, jumping and out muscling the defenders. Adjusting routs on the fly, coming back to the ball and staying alive during a scramble and huge YACs. A great WR makes the QB look better.

"Cheesey" wrote:



Just by watching the browns game - one could see how a 'crappy' qb harrell wasnt going to make the receivers look better; and then looking at rodgers throw balls in all the correct places makes the already good receivers look great.
millertime
13 years ago
The thing I love about Rodgers is that he doesn't just get the ball to his receivers, he puts it in a spot where only they can get it (see Jennings TD). Also, he can get his streaking receivers the ball without them breaking their stride (see Finley's slant and Jennings 35 yd reception.

When Flynn came in, he got the ball to his receivers, but gave the defender the chance to hit the ball. I actually felt kind of bad for Flynn because there was no way he was going to look good after what A-Rod did out there.
dhazer
13 years ago
One thing I always heard about the great qbs was how they would throw there wrs open. Montana used to do it with Rice Favre did it with many guys and you see Peyton and Brady doing it also. They will throw the ball where the wr is going to be open and not wait for the guy to actually be open.

As was stated great wrs can make the qbs look great and a great qb can make a so-so wr look great.

You have the likes of Moss, Andre Johnson and I'll even throw in Sidney Rice last year, all the qb has to do is get the ball near them and they make the catch.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
dhazer, what you're talking about is called ... anticipation. :)

And you're point is valid, not every QB possesses it.
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coltonja
13 years ago
Wouldn't Peyton Manning have been a better example than Favre last year, at least, Garcon? Collie who?

I love this discussion because it is so true how both sides reflect greatness to each other. Without both sides having some talent neither could flourish, but sometimes one makes the other shine.
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TheEngineer
13 years ago

You have the likes of Moss, Andre Johnson and I'll even throw in Sidney Rice last year, all the qb has to do is get the ball near them and they make the catch.

"dhazer" wrote:



You know what, that sounds like an accurate description of one Jermichael Finley.
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13 years ago

dhazer, what you're talking about is called ... anticipation. :)

And you're point is valid, not every QB possesses it.

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DakotaT
13 years ago
Actually, I believe the offense run in Green Bay makes both the quarterback and receiver. We have only drafted 3 stud recievers in twenty years: Sharpe, Walker, and Jennings. The rest were works in progress.

The quarterbacks obviously were very talented, but it is the system that gives them the opportunity to maximize their talents.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago
Is Jennings a stud or is he a perfect match for Favre/Rodgers?

Walker was a stud as we saw what was before and after. Sharpe was one of the best WRs I've ever seen, and I watched Rice, Lofton, Moss, etc.
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