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Offline Heatherthepackgirl  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 7:55:28 PM(UTC)
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Its official, I dont want Brett Favre to retire

After watching 40-year-old Brett Favre play in a losing effort Sunday, I decided that no matter how angry Ive gotten at him in the past, the NFL will always be better with Brett Favre taking snaps.

Sure theres been times when I flipped to ESPN during the off-season and shouted, Would you just retire or not retire PLEASE? No doubt Ive cussed Favre out from afar after seeing him become emotional about leaving the game for good and then saying hes not coming back and then retiring again and then coming back again. That being said, though, I think we all need to realize just how great and exciting Favre is.

Sundays game against the Saints demonstrated why every fan of the NFL should appreciate him. How did the game come about to end the way it did? By Brett Favre trying to complete a pass that only he could, and throwing an interception when the Vikings were in field goal territory.

Vintage Brett.

He has always been the gunslinger. Knowing that one pass could lead to either a long touchdown or catastrophic turnover, he fires away. Its the same Brett every series, every pass, every game.

But throughout the years, weve gotten used to more than just Favres live or die attitude in playing QB. Weve seen how mentally strong he is playing through extreme sadness after losing his father, donning a shaved head while his wife underwent treatment, starting every game for nearly as many years as Ive been alive.

And on Sunday, we saw more of the same. Favre was crushed right after throwing a pass and was grabbing his ribs in pain. He didnt come out of the game. He gets hit low and needs help off the field. After getting his ankle re-taped, he hobbled back onto the field for more not missing a single play.

When I saw Favre getting helped off the field, and this is coming from someone who once considered himself a drinker of Favre haterade, I could only think one thing this is not how I want to see Favre go out.

Although I had no rooting interest in the game, I slowly started pulling for the quarterback who has annihilated the Lions almost every game from my adolescence to now.

For the first time ever, I am finding myself saying I want Brett Favre to come back.

I think all NFL fans, deep down, feel the same way.
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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 7:55:56 PM(UTC)
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I don't.
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Offline Heatherthepackgirl  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 7:56:40 PM(UTC)
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I double doo doo..LOL
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Offline ILikeThePackers39  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:42:18 PM(UTC)
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Eh, I think he can do what he wants to do. Dude got his ass KICKED in that last game, and you know other teams watched that and decided that was exactly what they were going to do if they got another shot at him. I wouldn't blame him if he decided that part of the game was no longer any fun. Or if he wants to play again, that's fine. For whatever reason, after that game I stopped feeling any emotion about the topic whatsoever.

I would say, for the fans that love him so much, do you really want him to keep taking beatings like that? Maybe it's time for you all to love him in the booth, or on ESPN or wherever he'd show up - you know, somewhere large men aren't trying to dismember him.
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Offline Heatherthepackgirl  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:51:22 PM(UTC)
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I want him to do what makes him and his family happy.
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Offline longtimefan  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:03:52 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
I want him to do what makes him and his family happy.


finally!!

something we agree on
Offline IronMan  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:54:26 PM(UTC)
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Eh, I think he can do what he wants to do. Dude got his ass KICKED in that last game, and you know other teams watched that and decided that was exactly what they were going to do if they got another shot at him.

Easier said than done. Teams have ALWAYS known that if they could put a few hits on Brett, it would rattle him; just like any quarterback. The Saints didn't unlock any secrets. They just executed very well.
Offline Wade  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:11:47 PM(UTC)
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I think 90 percent of my interest in Favre now is because of his wife and, perhaps, his daughter (if that's who the other attractive blackhaired woman in the NFCC photos is).

Shrug.

Now the one I want to retire is Peyton Manning. Preferably in the next week.
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Offline 4PackGirl  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:46:03 PM(UTC)
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adios brett - thanks for the memories - some better than others.
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Offline Formo  
#10 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:56:11 AM(UTC)
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Eh, I think he can do what he wants to do. Dude got his ass KICKED in that last game, and you know other teams watched that and decided that was exactly what they were going to do if they got another shot at him.

Easier said than done. Teams have ALWAYS known that if they could put a few hits on Brett, it would rattle him; just like any quarterback. The Saints didn't unlock any secrets. They just executed very well.


THIS.

The Cards 'unlocked' the secrets to beating the Vikings and confusing Brett.. Or so what people said.

Someone forgot to tell the Bengals, Giants, Cowboys, and to some degree, the Saints what the Cards did.

Or maybe they just executed great, and the Vikings didn't bother showing up?
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Offline Cheesey  
#11 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:15:06 AM(UTC)
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I don't really care what he does.
He waffles so much, John Kerry is jealous of him.

As he's not a Packer, in the end, i don't really care. When he was "one of us" i cared......probab;y TOO much.
Now, to me, it's just "Who will be quarterbacking the enemy next season?"
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Offline Greg C.  
#12 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:47:41 AM(UTC)
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I love it how the author of this article makes the assumption that Brett's throw could've led to a long touchdown. Not a chance. At best, it would've been a short gain--about the same amount Brett would've gained if he wasn't afraid to tuck the ball and run with it.

This article by Joe Posnanski from Sports Illustrated sums it up perfectly, without the Brett-colored glasses:

http://sportsillustrated...5/brett.favre/index.html

The play that he's referring to in this article, by the way, happened in the playoffs against--guess who?--the Vikings. I remember it all too well. Vikings fans referred to it at the time as Favre's "anti-Elway moment." And I had to agree with them. Now he had his anti-Elway moment while playing for the Vikings.
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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#13 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:15:38 PM(UTC)
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What makes Favre not want to run is the same thing that has caused him to train himself to always have his momentum away from the line of scrimmage: he wants to preserve that consecutive starts streak at all costs.
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Offline IronMan  
#14 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:49:57 PM(UTC)
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Excellent article Greg. Thanks for posting it.

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the single dumbest pass anyone can remember


Tough to argue with that. Although the interception he threw in the 2004 Divisional playoff game against Philly, (2003 season) was equally as bad. He literally just threw it up for grabs.
Offline Greg C.  
#15 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:53:56 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Excellent article Greg. Thanks for posting it.

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the single dumbest pass anyone can remember


Tough to argue with that. Although the interception he threw in the 2004 Divisional playoff game against Philly, (2003 season) was equally as bad. He literally just threw it up for grabs.


There were other plays like this too. This is why I was glad Brett retired from the Packers when he did, and I would not have minded if he had retired a year or two earlier. I vaguely remember one play against the Bears in the early 2000's when he ran past the line of scrimmage and then either took a dive or tried an illegal pass or something in order to avoid taking a hit.

I think Nonstopdrivel is right that the consecutive game streak became more important to him than anything else. He's got a lot of physical courage to keep playing, there's no doubt about that. But I think his priorities got out of order toward the end.

I've come to hate consecutive game streaks in general. Cal Ripken for example. Later in his career when his production was declining he should've taken some days off to keep himself fresh. And I've always thought that Favre should've missed some games in 1999 and 2000 when he was playing with hand and wrist injuries. Those were two of his worst seasons. But he had rookie head coaches and they were not in a position to make him sit out a game even if they had wanted to. And of course we have direct proof that Chilly is not going to make him sit out either.
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Offline Cheesey  
#16 Posted : Friday, January 29, 2010 4:19:08 PM(UTC)
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If it's 4th down, and you HAVE to make X number of yards, you do ANYTHING. Throw it up for grabs, whatever. But most of the "bonehead" throws BF has made was NOT that situation. The last one with the Queens sums it up pretty well.
RUN, get 5 or 6 yards, let Longwell try a 50-51 yard fieldgoal, you you either win if he makes it, or go into overtime. But at least you give your kicker a CHANCE to win it.
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#17 Posted : Friday, January 29, 2010 9:26:52 PM(UTC)
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Like it or not, Brett is still the most exciting player in the NFL. I'm going to miss not seeing him play as both Brett lovers and Brett haters will too.

Right after the game, I thought he'd retire and won't play in '10. Now I have a feeling he's coming back in '10. Good. It will make '10 that much more exciting.
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Offline Heatherthepackgirl  
#18 Posted : Tuesday, February 2, 2010 9:04:11 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Excellent article Greg. Thanks for posting it.

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the single dumbest pass anyone can remember


Tough to argue with that. Although the interception he threw in the 2004 Divisional playoff game against Philly, (2003 season) was equally as bad. He literally just threw it up for grabs.



I posted it. :)
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Offline 4PackGirl  
#19 Posted : Wednesday, February 3, 2010 10:31:33 AM(UTC)
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I love it how the author of this article makes the assumption that Brett's throw could've led to a long touchdown. Not a chance. At best, it would've been a short gain--about the same amount Brett would've gained if he wasn't afraid to tuck the ball and run with it.

This article by Joe Posnanski from Sports Illustrated sums it up perfectly, without the Brett-colored glasses:

http://sportsillustrated...5/brett.favre/index.html

The play that he's referring to in this article, by the way, happened in the playoffs against--guess who?--the Vikings. I remember it all too well. Vikings fans referred to it at the time as Favre's "anti-Elway moment." And I had to agree with them. Now he had his anti-Elway moment while playing for the Vikings.


he was referring to this article, heather...if i'm not mistaken.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, February 4, 2010 4:49:39 PM(UTC)
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What makes Favre not want to run is the same thing that has caused him to train himself to always have his momentum away from the line of scrimmage: he wants to preserve that consecutive starts streak at all costs.


Unreal. I guess it really is either you like em or you don't. Questioning his football moves because he wants to preserve his consectuive starts streak? Based on what?

Why would he have dove in for the loose ball after the Harvin fumble, immediately after the hit to his ankle? Why would he be the QB that is always throwing the block on the reverse? Why would people comment about how Favre held the ball till the last second in the Saints game and took too many hits (unlike Brees)? Why would he do things like this if his strategy in football revolves around playing it safe:



But of course all that requires some kind of objective view of Brett Favre.

Also you do realize that QBs can slide if they run and the defense cannot hit them if they do so?

Maybe just maybe, he didn't run because he takes STUPID risks with the ball when you shouldn't and it has nothing to do with being scared of getting hit.
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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#21 Posted : Thursday, February 4, 2010 4:57:50 PM(UTC)
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I would appreciate it if you would Assume Good Faith.

There was nothing derogatory or even critical about the post you quoted.
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#22 Posted : Thursday, February 4, 2010 5:16:13 PM(UTC)
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I would appreciate it if you would Assume Good Faith.

There was nothing derogatory or even critical about the post you quoted.


I don't know what that means. Then again I'm not particularly bright or anything so what does "Assume Good Faith" mean? (I'm serious).

How is there nothing critical in that post you did? Your basically saying a football player doesn't run because he's scared he's going to get injured and that would ruin some streak he has. That would mean he's not playing to win, he's playing to keep some streak alive. And I responded that I don't think he plays in a way to keep his streak alive, he's actually extremly reckless for a QB (would you see Brady or Manning throw that block on Willis, of course, because its stupid to do so).

Unless there is some kind of sarcasm or something in your original post I don't really understand how your comment is not critical of Brett Favre. If it was some kind of clever post or something, I will be the first to say sorry and that I jumped to conclusions.
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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#23 Posted : Thursday, February 4, 2010 5:22:34 PM(UTC)
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By the way, I have repeatedly given Favre props for throwing his body around on the turnovers in that last game. But anyone who has watched him over the years knows that has not been this typical style, an occasional block (e.g., in the Super Bowl) every few years notwithstanding.
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#24 Posted : Thursday, February 4, 2010 6:26:07 PM(UTC)
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The Onion

Vikings Stand Behind Brett Favre's Decision To Jerk Team Around For Months

EDEN PRAIRIE, MNPlayers, coaches, and front-office personnel are united in their support of Brett Favre's decision to waffle, demur, delay, beat around the bush, and generally yank them around for months on end while they wait for him to make a decision about his retirement. "He's a living legend and our captain, so we support him if he needs to take some time to fuck with us," said backup quarterback Tarvaris Jackson, whose future would benefit greatly from a quick decision by Favre and whose life and career are basically in limbo until the future Hall of Famer once again makes up his mind. "We could only watch in envy as he did exactly this in Green Bay all those years, but to see him jerk around your own team It's an honor, really." Favre responded to questions abut retirement by confirming that he was planning to draw out the situation for months and would ultimately do whatever was most annoying for the team.UserPostedImage
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Offline doddpower  
#25 Posted : Saturday, February 6, 2010 3:09:51 PM(UTC)
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Go have Favre!!

( . . . . errrr . . . stay home at least. heh.)
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