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Online Zero2Cool  
#76 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:21:33 PM(UTC)
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The Vikings can afford Favre taking his time, they don't have a young QB in the waiting ready to take over. Completely different situations between the Packers after Rodgers came and how the Vikings are now.

Use common sense.
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#77 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:25:06 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
The Vikings can afford Favre taking his time, they don't have a young QB in the waiting ready to take over. Completely different situations between the Packers after Rodgers came and how the Vikings are now.

Use common sense.


Ok.

Thats my whole point. Why are people saying that "now look at what you guys have ot go through with Favre and unretirement, enjoy!". You just made my point, I don't think the Vikings players, organization or fans care how long he takes.
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#78 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:26:55 PM(UTC)
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Favre decision is, or should be huge for MN. Just like it was for GB in 07'. Both teams were in the NFC Championship and lost. That is about as close to the SB as possible. So that is when you try to finish the team. If you make the moves and your QB doesn't return, you just wasted money. If you don't an he returns, odds are you will not do better.
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#79 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:36:52 PM(UTC)
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I think the NFL is so much richer with Brett Favre in it. I also think it's so cool that he's a Viking. Everything about it is so compelling. The whole waffling thing, does he run the show or Chilly, carrying the team at times, stupidity at a critical time.

That loss was perfect.

Now he's going to more geezed. (But he didn't look like it, did he?) If he announces a retirement, he's going to get hounded about it. The Vikings go into some sort of "limbo" mode. Hopefully he comes back after training camp. Can we beat those bastards? Will Favre be as good next year as he was last year? Why the hell didn't he play like that for us? We BETTER beat those guys this time around...

The whole world seems convinced that the better team lost the NFC championship game, but do great teams screw up that much?

What is not to love about all this?

What a fantastic off-season!

To those that wonder out loud in here why this keeps getting brought up, are you frigging serious? Favre and his team beat us twice. It was the difference between us winning the division and them winning the division. Then look HOW they did it.

We have a dog in this fight. Stop worrying so much much about what we do and do not get "over". The motivations are many, including yours.
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#80 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:54:02 PM(UTC)
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For the record, if Favre retires, we sweep the Vikings next year. Yes, he had a mediocre performance in the CG, but leading up to the CG, he was brilliant and he's the reason we lost to them twice. 7 TDs vs 0 INTs.

I want him back because I want us to get better vs our opponents, not our opponents getting worse compared to us. The latter mind set is a losing mentality.
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Offline Cheesey  
#81 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:31:42 PM(UTC)
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Did you all realize, that if Favre reaaly DOES retire now, he will be the ONLY player that has played for 4 teams, and his LAST pass for all 4 teams was an interception!
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#82 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:44:04 PM(UTC)
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Did you all realize, that if Favre reaaly DOES retire now, he will be the ONLY player that has played for 4 teams, and his LAST pass for all 4 teams was an interception!


His last pass for the Jets wasn't an interception, though.

It was some desperation "Music City Miracle" stuff they tried to pull, where Favre passed the ball two times on one play. Neither of those got intercepted. The second one was, obviously, flagged.
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#83 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:17:52 PM(UTC)
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#84 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:42:27 AM(UTC)
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I still don't understand how Favre taking his time has any effect on the Vikings. They should draft a QB if they want regardless. The Rookie QB isn't going to start anyway this year. Jackson is a RFA, if you want him, you can keep him. There's no salary cap issues that I can see anyway. The other players on the team said they don't care about him going to training camp or whatever as he already proved it doesn't matter for him. Vikings fans certainly don't seem to care, they finally have a decent QB

Formo, maybe you can comment, whats the issue?

I think a lot of this is being blown out of proportion by a) the media (who needs something to write about) and b) Packers fans who want the Vikings to experience whatever "pain" they experienced with his retirement decisions.

I don't even think the Jets suffered last year? They drafted a Sanchez and made the conference championship. Face it, its not that big of a deal to anyone other than Packers fans and the media.


It's being blown out of proportion by both the media and a handful of Packer fans. I'm not worried about the 'limbo' that the Vikings will be in.. Because it's not going to be any different than the 'limbo' we've been in prior to Favre joining the team (T-Jack, Bollinger, Frerote, Sage, Johnson, etc)..

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The Vikings can afford Favre taking his time, they don't have a young QB in the waiting ready to take over. Completely different situations between the Packers after Rodgers came and how the Vikings are now.

Use common sense.


Ok.

Thats my whole point. Why are people saying that "now look at what you guys have ot go through with Favre and unretirement, enjoy!". You just made my point, I don't think the Vikings players, organization or fans care how long he takes.


Exactly.
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#85 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:12:44 AM(UTC)
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I also heard that "Chilly" said he wasn't pushing Favre......then he said "But the sooner, the better, of course"
Don't you love that????
The guy should run for office.
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#86 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:14:18 AM(UTC)
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I also heard that "Chilly" said he wasn't pushing Favre......then he said "But the sooner, the better, of course"
Don't you love that????
The guy should run for office.


I say let Favre come back during preseason if he's gonna return. Make sure he doesn't go through training camp again.
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#87 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:50:53 AM(UTC)
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6 pages? What is this, a Vikings forum? ;)

So much for the hammering how great it is not to worry about whether Favre retires or not!
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#88 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 6:34:18 AM(UTC)
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The chances of either Clausen or Bradford being on the board by the time the Vikings pick at #30 this year seems slim. Well, at least you can't bank on it since they're the top two QBs in this year's draft. McCoy might be worth a chance in the late second if he'll fall that far. But even still you can't count on that rookie QB to absolutely lead you to the promised land.

So what are the alternatives?

Seems like a strong indication that Minnesota will pursue McNabb if Favre announces his retirement. The only downside with that though, do you pull the trigger on that trade before the draft with the specter of another Favre come back late in the off-season? Talk about an instant QB controversy if Favre would all of a sudden get another "itch" to play again. Sure Minnesota could just up and release Favre and go with McNabb, but do you cut someone like Favre who obviously has some value there still?

Now obviously this is just pure speculation on my part, but even if Favre announces his retirement again, any potential comeback should he change his mind around training camp, could possibly effect how Minnesota goes about dealing with it's QB situation in the off-season.
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#89 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:53:54 PM(UTC)
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Count me as one who would love to see the Vikings go the McNabb route.

IMO McNabb is the most overrated quarterback since Roman Gabriel.
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#90 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:54:21 PM(UTC)
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(And at least Gabriel had a cool name.)
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#91 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:31:11 PM(UTC)
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6 pages? What is this, a Vikings forum? ;)

So much for the hammering how great it is not to worry about whether Favre retires or not!

There's a HUGE difference Engineer.
I can write on this thread, and no matter which way ol' Brett goes, doesn't make me happy OR upset. I can laugh about it.
When it was "us" going through it every year, it affected me.
If he does or doesn't, it won't affect "my" team.
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#92 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:44:44 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
The chances of either Clausen or Bradford being on the board by the time the Vikings pick at #30 this year seems slim. Well, at least you can't bank on it since they're the top two QBs in this year's draft. McCoy might be worth a chance in the late second if he'll fall that far. But even still you can't count on that rookie QB to absolutely lead you to the promised land.

So what are the alternatives?

Seems like a strong indication that Minnesota will pursue McNabb if Favre announces his retirement. The only downside with that though, do you pull the trigger on that trade before the draft with the specter of another Favre come back late in the off-season? Talk about an instant QB controversy if Favre would all of a sudden get another "itch" to play again. Sure Minnesota could just up and release Favre and go with McNabb, but do you cut someone like Favre who obviously has some value there still?

Now obviously this is just pure speculation on my part, but even if Favre announces his retirement again, any potential comeback should he change his mind around training camp, could possibly effect how Minnesota goes about dealing with it's QB situation in the off-season.


I was waiting for someone to bring up the McNabb angle(BTW, Wade.. McNabb is a talent, and I believe a future HoFer.. His coach is hurting his chances, IMO).

The smartest move (and the move I believe the Vikes will make) would be to wait out the Favre issue and draft a QB (Tebow/McCoy) in April. If Favre comes back, I feel they'll take 4 QBs to training camp to decide who to cut (T-Jack, Sage). If Favre doesn't come back, then it'll probably be a competition between T-Jack and Sage for starter, and sit the rookie for a year.

Of course, the above is just my speculation. I could be waaaaay off!
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#93 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:59:24 PM(UTC)
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Frankly???

I don't give a crap as you US brethren say.


All I do care about


And this may upset some here

I actuallly have grown to like Vikesrule, Formo, Martsco and all other vikings fans that post here.

And all other teams fan as well

(You included Polargrizz)

They are true football fans

I love this site and I enjoy the will he won;'t here retire threads

BRING IT ON

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#94 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:05:45 PM(UTC)
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I heard about the Vikings interest in McNabb last night. They sure do like their 'retreads", don't they?
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#95 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:14:14 PM(UTC)
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I was waiting for someone to bring up the McNabb angle(BTW, Wade.. McNabb is a talent, and I believe a future HoFer.. His coach is hurting his chances, IMO).


No he isn't. Nanner, nanner, nanner.

(Oh, btw, neither were Joe Kapp, Tommy Kramer, or Daunte Culpepper. And the Vikings did better with all of them than they would with McNabb.)

Nanner, nanner, nanner.

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#96 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:23:45 PM(UTC)
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Brett got the Vikes to the NFC Championship

Far better than for quite some time

Retire?


Play on?

I don't care any more

Whatever he does it's up to him

Isn't it????


I support the Pack

Brett was the best ever QB to play for the Pack

The best ever QB to play (full stop)

If he plays next season. he plays next season.

He will always be in my opinion the best ever, ever player in the NFL
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#97 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:24:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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The chances of either Clausen or Bradford being on the board by the time the Vikings pick at #30 this year seems slim. Well, at least you can't bank on it since they're the top two QBs in this year's draft. McCoy might be worth a chance in the late second if he'll fall that far. But even still you can't count on that rookie QB to absolutely lead you to the promised land.

So what are the alternatives?

Seems like a strong indication that Minnesota will pursue McNabb if Favre announces his retirement. The only downside with that though, do you pull the trigger on that trade before the draft with the specter of another Favre come back late in the off-season? Talk about an instant QB controversy if Favre would all of a sudden get another "itch" to play again. Sure Minnesota could just up and release Favre and go with McNabb, but do you cut someone like Favre who obviously has some value there still?

Now obviously this is just pure speculation on my part, but even if Favre announces his retirement again, any potential comeback should he change his mind around training camp, could possibly effect how Minnesota goes about dealing with it's QB situation in the off-season.


I was waiting for someone to bring up the McNabb angle(BTW, Wade.. McNabb is a talent, and I believe a future HoFer.. His coach is hurting his chances, IMO).

The smartest move (and the move I believe the Vikes will make) would be to wait out the Favre issue and draft a QB (Tebow/McCoy) in April. If Favre comes back, I feel they'll take 4 QBs to training camp to decide who to cut (T-Jack, Sage). If Favre doesn't come back, then it'll probably be a competition between T-Jack and Sage for starter, and sit the rookie for a year.

Of course, the above is just my speculation. I could be waaaaay off!



As a Packers fan, I would love for the Vikes to take either Tebow or McCoy - that'll work out just fine for us.

I'm betting Brett'll let y'all know in short order, as I've already said - I'm close to betting he'll be back, so you'll have another year before you need to re-enter the "Good lord, what is that at QB?" doldrums.

Oh, and T-Jack>Rosenfart.
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#98 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:25:37 PM(UTC)
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I was waiting for someone to bring up the McNabb angle(BTW, Wade.. McNabb is a talent, and I believe a future HoFer.. His coach is hurting his chances, IMO).


No he isn't. Nanner, nanner, nanner.

(Oh, btw, neither were Joe Kapp, Tommy Kramer, or Daunte Culpepper. And the Vikings did better with all of them than they would with McNabb.)

Nanner, nanner, nanner.

:)


lol Seriously? He will bring a dynamic that combines Favre and T-Jack. Of course, the pocket passing won't be as good as Favre.. And maybe his mobility isn't as 'fresh' as T-Jack. But if T-Jack and Gus can take the Vikings to the playoffs, I would have to imagine McNabb could as well (besides, he wouldn't be the first ex-Iggle QB to 'revive' his career with the Vikings.. Cunningham?)
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#99 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:28:38 PM(UTC)
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McNabb - Favre??

No contest
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#100 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:16:35 PM(UTC)
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I was waiting for someone to bring up the McNabb angle(BTW, Wade.. McNabb is a talent, and I believe a future HoFer.. His coach is hurting his chances, IMO).


No he isn't. Nanner, nanner, nanner.

(Oh, btw, neither were Joe Kapp, Tommy Kramer, or Daunte Culpepper. And the Vikings did better with all of them than they would with McNabb.)

Nanner, nanner, nanner.

:)


lol Seriously? He will bring a dynamic that combines Favre and T-Jack. Of course, the pocket passing won't be as good as Favre.. And maybe his mobility isn't as 'fresh' as T-Jack. But if T-Jack and Gus can take the Vikings to the playoffs, I would have to imagine McNabb could as well (besides, he wouldn't be the first ex-Iggle QB to 'revive' his career with the Vikings.. Cunningham?)


Just keep telling yourself that, Grasshopper. :)

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