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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#71 Posted : Monday, May 24, 2010 6:48:27 PM(UTC)
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That would explain why the Packers Pro Shop isn't selling Reggie White jerseys, then. I was surprised when I found that out.
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#72 Posted : Monday, May 24, 2010 7:02:42 PM(UTC)
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That would explain why the Packers Pro Shop isn't selling Reggie White jerseys, then. I was surprised when I found that out.


Shouldn't be when the Packers and Reggie's family had a falling out a couple years ago. I don't remember the reason.. but I remember it having marketing impacts. Googled for the article for reference.. can't seem to find it in a quick search..
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#73 Posted : Monday, May 24, 2010 8:34:46 PM(UTC)
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The fact still remains that it required him to not return to the NFL in order for the contract to be valid.


Are you insinuating that there is a clause in this contract stipulating that he must remain retired in order to receive the money?


I'd imagine so. I don't know.. but I'm also one of the belief that the Packers drew up that agreement to ensure Favre's retirement.

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I highly doubt that this is so. I think it's simply a practical effect of the fact that it makes no logical (or economic) sense for a team to market a player who is playing for another organization.


I agree. But to cover all the bases I wouldn't be surprised to see a clause in said marketing agreement that touched on Favre's active status in the NFL
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#74 Posted : Monday, May 24, 2010 8:37:32 PM(UTC)
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The fact still remains that it required him to not return to the NFL in order for the contract to be valid.


Are you insinuating that there is a clause in this contract stipulating that he must remain retired in order to receive the money?


I'd imagine so. I don't know.. but I'm also one of the belief that the Packers drew up that agreement to ensure Favre's retirement.


It was written up I believe two years prior to him announcing his retirement as a Packer. It was then brought up again, because ... ahh ... well he was RETIRED therefore it became a necessary topic of discussion. It's pretty simple. Oh, and another thing some seem to have forgotten, if he signed the agreement, Brett said he could have still unretired and played as the agreement would have been put on hold until he retired. Which kind of makes the whole 'bribe to stay retired' thing MOOTie POOTie.
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The fact still remains that it required him to not return to the NFL in order for the contract to be valid.


Are you insinuating that there is a clause in this contract stipulating that he must remain retired in order to receive the money?


I'd imagine so. I don't know.. but I'm also one of the belief that the Packers drew up that agreement to ensure Favre's retirement.


It was written up I believe two years prior to him announcing his retirement as a Packer. It was then brought up again, because ... ahh ... well he was RETIRED therefore it became a necessary topic of discussion. It's pretty simple. Oh, and another thing some seem to have forgotten, if he signed the agreement, Brett said he could have still unretired and played as the agreement would have been put on hold until he retired. Which kind of makes the whole 'bribe to stay retired' thing MOOTie POOTie.


No one knew about the agreement until Favre started calling for a trade. You said it.. In order for the agreement to hold water he's have to stay retired.. Yes, it would still be in affect just on hold until he did officially retire.. But in order for him to bring in that money.. He'd have to stay retired. It's still a bribe in my mind, but you can continue to look at it like the way you do. I don't blame you.
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That's pretty cool that Payton Manning posts on these boards...
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#77 Posted : Monday, May 31, 2010 3:42:35 AM(UTC)
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No one knew about the agreement until Favre started calling for a trade. You said it.. In order for the agreement to hold water he's have to stay retired.. Yes, it would still be in affect just on hold until he did officially retire.. But in order for him to bring in that money.. He'd have to stay retired. It's still a bribe in my mind, but you can continue to look at it like the way you do. I don't blame you.



How do you view it as a bribe? Brett as well as the Packers acknowledged publicly it was something in the works for a couple years or more. The fact that it was brought up after he was retired, well, when the hell else should have they brought it up? Waited until the first game of the season and he wasn't in uniform? That'd be stupid. They wanted to continue using his name and profit from it. Strike while the iron is hot. They would have lost three months of potential financial profit off his name and likeness.

How is that constituted as a bribe?

Even if Brett had signed the Marketing Deal, he could have still unretired and the agreement would have been postponed until he was retired.

Again, how is it a bribe? Sounds more like you're pigeonholed in your own theory and molding facts to support it.
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No one knew about the agreement until Favre started calling for a trade. You said it.. In order for the agreement to hold water he's have to stay retired.. Yes, it would still be in affect just on hold until he did officially retire.. But in order for him to bring in that money.. He'd have to stay retired. It's still a bribe in my mind, but you can continue to look at it like the way you do. I don't blame you.



How do you view it as a bribe? Brett as well as the Packers acknowledged publicly it was something in the works for a couple years or more. The fact that it was brought up after he was retired, well, when the hell else should have they brought it up? Waited until the first game of the season and he wasn't in uniform? That'd be stupid. They wanted to continue using his name and profit from it. Strike while the iron is hot. They would have lost three months of potential financial profit off his name and likeness.

How is that constituted as a bribe?

Even if Brett had signed the Marketing Deal, he could have still unretired and the agreement would have been postponed until he was retired.

Again, how is it a bribe? Sounds more like you're pigeonholed in your own theory and molding facts to support it.


I forgot how you can read the Packers brass' mind and their intentions. My bad.

Move along, nothing to see here.
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lol

When it's something all parties are stating, it's usually good reason to believe its true. Why would they all say it, if it was not true?

It's fine that you want to believe your misguided nonsensical theory. I mean, you're a Vikings fan and you have to find any and every way to knock the Packers ... and this is obviously just another one of those methods. So, think how you wish. I won't embarrass you again by asking you to enlighten me with .... why. :P
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