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Offline wpr  
#26 Posted : Wednesday, July 21, 2010 4:17:08 AM(UTC)
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Great pic!

and Formo, c'mon. Did you ever see Barry Sanders, Aikman, Strahan, Warner, Manning, Brady, LT (etc.) playing this on again off again retirement drama game every offseason for 6-7 straight years?!?

No we don't know Brett personally, but I also don't need a proctologist to tell me what a turd looks like. It's clear as day that Favre is doing this for the love he gets from the Maddens of the world, and he's milking this ankle "injury" to save face for wanting to skip out on training camp (again)


And it is 'clear as day' that Packer fans love to make whoopie with sheep..

Get my point?


Nope. I have no idea what you are talking about. It must be one of those "Minnesota things."
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:20:09 PM(UTC)
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Here's what we know as fact: If Favre knew how to shut his yap, there wouldn't even be any comments about his "drama queen" status, correct?
Ask yourself this question: WHY do the "reporters" GO to Brett Favre? ANSWER: Because they KNOW he isn't capable of keeping his mouth shut!

Thus, if they need a story, just go to ol' "Jabber Jaws Favre" and you are guarenteed of something to write/talk about.
If he didn't DESIRE all the attention, he could shut it all down with just a few "No comment' statements.
But why SHOULD he, when he can get all this attention that he obviously likes?
How can i say it's OBVIOUS that he likes it? Cause HE has the power to shut it down, like i said, and he CHOOSES not too.

Seriously, because he's not a Packer anymore, i have NO feelings about it. In other words, i don't CARE how much drama he wants. We have our starting QB, and what BF does doesn't affect me anymore then what any QB of any of the other teams in the NFL does.
Now that it doesn't affect MY team, i can sit back and ENJOY the circus!
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#28 Posted : Wednesday, July 21, 2010 6:54:01 PM(UTC)
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I really haven't given this topic much thought recently, but now that it is back in our face, I have to really say I don't really give a damn if the Vikings allow themselves to be victimized here. A team is built by all players going through the same dog days of summer together, and if numbnuts is above that, how can he possibly be considered a teammate when in all actuality, he's nothing but a hired gun.

The bitch in this whole situation is Chilly. How in the hell can the boss command respect, when one of the players gets to pull this crap. Last year God was a free agent, and this year he is under contract and should be forced to report to all mandatory team activities. But I guess that only counts if you're one of the grunts. Hopefully one of those grunts takes a play or two off, allowing another opposing player a free shot. I'm pretty sure the rest of the players in the league are pretty tired of this song and dance and are ready to retire the Diva.
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#29 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:12:01 AM(UTC)
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True.....it HAS to tick off some of his "team mates". I mean, THEY don't get a free pass to miss mandatory workouts. It's PART OF THE JOB.
I'd say it's laziness, period.
Yes, i hear the old "he's been playing for SO long, he EARNED his being able to miss training camp." To that, i say BULL. He's still getting a paycheck, right? Should YOU be able to take off Monday through Thursday at your job, because you worked for 20 years? While the other workers work their collective butts off?
That shows you the attitude there. He thinks he's ABOVE all the work that is EXPECTED of a professional.
That's wrong. No matter WHO you are, in my view at least.
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#30 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:40:19 AM(UTC)
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I understand what you are saying Cheesey but I would prob use a different word. I think Brett is a lot of things but not lazy. "entitled" in his opinion not doubt.
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#31 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:59:19 AM(UTC)
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#32 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:51:33 AM(UTC)
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How do we know if he was seeking ESPN or other media outlets or if they are seeking him? We don't know the back story of any of these reports.


We don't really need much more context when Bus Cook's alleged remarks basically center on Brett revealing his surgery issue without giving anyone else a heads up on the thing. That is what he is mad about: he now has to do damage control, and I expect some of the Vikings top brass were not... thrilled with hearing through ESPN that Brett may need surgery.

Now of course, what Bus Cook had to do should be considered a part of an agent's job. That Cook actually complained about it basically tells us that he considers it beyond the scope of his job to do damage control - that is save face - after remarks that would concern the employer are made.

That he is upset at Brett for talking and saying the wrong thing and still being evasive about his decision to return or not tells us that he thinks Brett is doing what he does to simply get attention. He may have a fair point: his antics certainly aren't of any help to his agent, his team, or his coach.

It's funny, Cook works for Favre. He is Favre's agent, but he is none-the-less providing a service to Favre. What Favre says goes, because that is the nature of the agent business: you work for a player(s). In other words, Favre is one of Cook's employers - his boss

You just don't go and show / express you anger at your boss in public to an audience, especially an audience amongst whom your boss may well be a part of. That Bus Cook actually did, it tells me is isn't simply fed up, he's pretty much had more than he could handle of Favre.

He really isn't the only one. I'm frankly surprised more players on the Vikings haven't spoken out / showed their discontent in public for the pampering Favre is getting.
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#33 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:47:59 PM(UTC)
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Hey guys, we defended this guys antics for like 15 years


Speak for yourself. :P
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#34 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:55:25 PM(UTC)
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I showed this to my wife and she said, "I don't remember Favre doing a Snickers commercial."

PRICELESS! :thumbleft:
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#35 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:15:25 PM(UTC)
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Why can't Favre just admit he doesn't want to attend training camp? He's probably got enough clout to force Childress to pay the fine for missing attendance for him anyway.
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#36 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:57:49 PM(UTC)
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I was waiting for something Favre to pop up in the media and when I found myself reading the articles, I actually didn't have a feeling of "caring" and stopped reading it.

Its old news. Bus Cook does sound like Ari Gold...good one djcubez.
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#37 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 5:05:32 PM(UTC)
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Engineer, if Childress had a sack he'd come out and say that he was fining Favre for every day he missed, just like any other player on the roster.
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#38 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 5:16:08 PM(UTC)
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I was waiting for something Favre to pop up in the media and when I found myself reading the articles, I actually didn't have a feeling of "caring" and stopped reading it.

Its old news. Bus Cook does sound like Ari Gold...good one djcubez.


i felt the same way, gforce. for the first time, i really don't care what he does or doesn't do...a very freeing feeling, i must say!
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#39 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 5:52:39 PM(UTC)
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True.....it HAS to tick off some of his "team mates". I mean, THEY don't get a free pass to miss mandatory workouts. It's PART OF THE JOB.
I'd say it's laziness, period.
Yes, i hear the old "he's been playing for SO long, he EARNED his being able to miss training camp." To that, i say BULL. He's still getting a paycheck, right? Should YOU be able to take off Monday through Thursday at your job, because you worked for 20 years? While the other workers work their collective butts off?
That shows you the attitude there. He thinks he's ABOVE all the work that is EXPECTED of a professional.
That's wrong. No matter WHO you are, in my view at least.


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#40 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 5:57:35 PM(UTC)
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I understand what you are saying Cheesey but I would prob use a different word. I think Brett is a lot of things but not lazy. "entitled" in his opinion not doubt.


He admitted during this recent Chilly visit that he put on 14 pounds this offseason. What committed, devoted, ultra competitor sits on his ass for 8 months?

Favre gets his worshiped for his tenacity and desire to win, but few other NFL players get by with doing so little outside of sundays in autumn...anyone can get excited to play in front of 70,000 people, but true commitment involves the other 350 days of prep when nobody is watching.
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#41 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:33:27 PM(UTC)
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WHY do the "reporters" GO to Brett Favre? ANSWER: Because they KNOW he isn't capable of keeping his mouth shut!


Agreed. But what does that have anything to do with being a diva or drama queen? Just because a guy is transparent doesn't mean he's a diva.

Also, about the 'circus'.. The only circus here is what the national media stirs up.. No real Viking fan is concerned about what is going on in Mississippi. We are more concerned with how EJ's leg is doing, or how Ced's knee is doing than we are with anything to do with Favre. But because ESPN and the national media knows that the rest of the league's fans will eat up anything Favre.. they 'report' it.

So, have fun enjoying the imaginary circus the national media drums up. Meanwhile, I'm going to worry about the stuff that really matters.
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#42 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:37:23 PM(UTC)
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He really isn't the only one. I'm frankly surprised more players on the Vikings haven't spoken out / showed their discontent in public for the pampering Favre is getting.


I can see how Cook could be fed up with Favre's seemingly 'open door' policy when it comes to the media.. Rightfully so.

But why in the hell would any of the Vikings be discontent about Favre? They all pretty much said he's deserved the time he's taken off. If the players aren't worried about the 'pampering' Favre is getting, why the hell should I be? If they say he deserves to not go to camp, then I'm ok with it. I can't believe that there are still people in the 'Schism' camp..
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#43 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:42:56 PM(UTC)
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I understand what you are saying Cheesey but I would prob use a different word. I think Brett is a lot of things but not lazy. "entitled" in his opinion not doubt.


He admitted during this recent Chilly visit that he put on 14 pounds this offseason. What committed, devoted, ultra competitor sits on his ass for 8 months?

Favre gets his worshiped for his tenacity and desire to win, but few other NFL players get by with doing so little outside of sundays in autumn...anyone can get excited to play in front of 70,000 people, but true commitment involves the other 350 days of prep when nobody is watching.


Sorry I just don't see how a professional athlete of 19-20 years can be considered lazy. I do not doubt that does not work as hard as he did his first 10-15 years. No doubt he does not want to show up for all the preseason activities but it still takes a lot of effort to be in "NFL shape".

Do you have a link that shows that he gained and is still 14 pounds over his playing weight? He could have put on some weight during the winter and then started to lose it in May or June.

Not that I want to defend Favre. I think it is wrong to skip the preseason workouts. I think he is a prima donna.
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#44 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:59:45 PM(UTC)
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wpr...it was on ESPN last night. He was joking about why he was throwing the football with the high school team because he needed to get in shape since he packed on 14 lbs since january.

I see what you're saying, but I'm involved with a sport that requires 50 weeks/year of training, and even in football, most nfl players take a month or so off, and are other wise working with specialists, personal trainers, etc. to maximize their fitness and skills all year long. Favre comes off as someone who just pops up when he pleases because he still gets a rush from the games, but doesn't then doesn't want to put in all the other necessary work, which just rubs me the wrong way.
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#45 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:00:00 PM(UTC)
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It just shows you the level of self absorbsion of Lord Favre.
This shows thatb even 'his" people know just how much Favre NEEDS constant attention.
Pretty telling, i'd say.


LeBron James was knocking Lord Favre out of the spotlight, so he had to get back in.


True, who the f'k is Lebron James to mess with Bretts spotlight. Basketball season is over. Favreball season is right around the corner, thank god
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#46 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:01:35 PM(UTC)
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He's pissy because Favre didn't talk to reporters through him. That's what an agent does, right (besides negotiations w/ NFL teams)?

What I find funny is how everyone has a candid view into his (Favre's) brain and knows his every intentions.


I think that's a big part of it too. "I'm your agent, I should be told this stuff first so I can guide you into how to handle this, not some 'look at me' ESPN reporter".

There's just something about it that makes me think James flew off the handle for a reason we'll learn about later.


Favre reminds me of Andy Kaufman. Just playing with peoples head for his own amusement
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#47 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:08:18 PM(UTC)
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Here's what we know as fact: If Favre knew how to shut his yap, there wouldn't even be any comments about his "drama queen" status, correct?


But why should he have to shut his yap?

Is answering a question a sin? Are you coming back Brett? Hows your ankle Brett? Ankle feels sore, not sure if I'm coming back yet. He doesn't have to stay in seclusion just because you or anyone else wants him to. If the media, reporters or bitter/jealous fans wanna make more out of it than there really is, than thats their problem.
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#48 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:13:11 PM(UTC)
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wpr...it was on ESPN last night. He was joking about why he was throwing the football with the high school team because he needed to get in shape since he packed on 14 lbs since january.

I see what you're saying, but I'm involved with a sport that requires 50 weeks/year of training, and even in football, most nfl players take a month or so off, and are other wise working with specialists, personal trainers, etc. to maximize their fitness and skills all year long. Favre comes off as someone who just pops up when he pleases because he still gets a rush from the games, but doesn't then doesn't want to put in all the other necessary work, which just rubs me the wrong way.


Yea, if he actually committed to getting in shape, maybe he would have had a decent career. When all you do is fish, hunt, drink beer, pop pills and ride your tractor, you get mediocre results like Favre has gotten
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#49 Posted : Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:19:41 PM(UTC)
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wpr...it was on ESPN last night. He was joking about why he was throwing the football with the high school team because he needed to get in shape since he packed on 14 lbs since january.

I see what you're saying, but I'm involved with a sport that requires 50 weeks/year of training, and even in football, most nfl players take a month or so off, and are other wise working with specialists, personal trainers, etc. to maximize their fitness and skills all year long. Favre comes off as someone who just pops up when he pleases because he still gets a rush from the games, but doesn't then doesn't want to put in all the other necessary work, which just rubs me the wrong way.


Yea, if he actually committed to getting in shape, maybe he would have had a decent career. When all you do is fish, hunt, drink beer, pop pills and ride your tractor, you get mediocre results like Favre has gotten


The fact that John Daly, Bartolo Colon, and Tony Stewart can reach the pinnacle of their sports demonstrates that physical fitness is not always the key factor in success (in some sports). The quarterback is arguably one of these situations. Although mobility certainly enhances your effectiveness, you need a strong, accurate arm above all.
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#50 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 1:15:43 AM(UTC)
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Favre is lazy. Not showing up, year after year, to sweat beside his team mates is LAZINESS.
You can CALL it "perceived entitlement" or whatever you want. I call it lazy.
Seriously, i don't give a rodents rectum about what Favre does.
Of course i'm HOPING that his desire to skip the workouts that are MANDATORY for every other player cause him to lose that 'edge" he had for several years. I hope he falls flat on his face.
If he does, i bet his Viking team mates won't have such loving kind words for "his highness". The ONLY reason he got away with it in Minny last year was that they had a decent season. If he's not so great this year, watch how fast the team AND the Vikings fans turn on him.
I can't WAIT for the season to begin, so i can watch the implosion!!!
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