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Offline wils0646  
#1 Posted : Monday, August 18, 2008 10:12:29 PM(UTC)
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From the radio:

Jared Allen was quoted as saying if he didn't sack Rodgers 5 times himself, he'll consider it a bad game.



More arrogance from the Queens. Clifton basically shut him down last time we faced him. Good luck with that Mr. Allen.
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Offline bozz_2006  
#2 Posted : Monday, August 18, 2008 10:16:00 PM(UTC)
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he definitely talks big. always has. key is; use that to motivate you instead of being intimidated by it. That is one thing I love about our tackles. they are practically immune to intimidation, which is a key tool for a great many DE's.
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Offline CalifPacker  
#3 Posted : Monday, August 18, 2008 10:21:40 PM(UTC)
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Nobody intimidates the Green Bay Packers, especally [size=18]low lifes[/size] from the viqueens. More locker room clippings for our O-line people.

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Offline NodakPaul  
#4 Posted : Monday, August 18, 2008 10:22:01 PM(UTC)
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The last time the Packers faced Allen, he didn't have the Williams twins lined up next to him. And given the way the Packer OL has performed so far, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Allen. I expect him to get at least one sack on September 8th.
"There's the snap, Rodgers with a quick drop - in trouble! AND SACKED BY ALLEN! The ball is lose, the ball is lose, and recovered by Kevin Williams! And that's the ball game! Childress and the Vikings FINALLY beat the Packers!"
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Offline Greg C.  
#5 Posted : Monday, August 18, 2008 10:23:02 PM(UTC)
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This reminds me of that chump who used to play for the Vikings who was good for a season or two, who was obsessed with Favre. What was his name again?
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Offline IronMan  
#6 Posted : Monday, August 18, 2008 10:24:02 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
This reminds me of that chump who used to play for the Vikings who was good for a season or two, who was obsessed with Favre. What was his name again?

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Offline bozz_2006  
#7 Posted : Monday, August 18, 2008 10:33:55 PM(UTC)
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I also expect Allen to get a sack. probably more than one. it's the first game of the season, and OLine takes a while to gel, every year. plus, it's Rodg's first game ever. He will be stressed. So, yeah, Allen will get a sack or two or three. What the Packers need to do is not let it "get to them". Keep playing football, and beat the inferior team. And Allen had better hope he can be make the difference. Because if he doesn't, the Packers difference makers; Jennings, Jones, and Driver, will eat the Vikings secondary alive.
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Offline Bigbyfan  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:56:46 AM(UTC)
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It would be one thing if Allen has been on a winning team, but he came from the Chiefs.... enuff said
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Offline NodakPaul  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:54:25 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
It would be one thing if Allen has been on a winning team, but he came from the Chiefs.... enuff said


???

lol, you lost me on that one. What does that have to do with it? If anything, the quality of players he is lined up with has gotten better now that he is with the Vikings, so we can expect him to be even better this year.

BTW, Mike Harmon has picked Allen to lead the NFL in sacks again this year.
http://msn.foxsports.com/fantasy/story/8451088
"There's the snap, Rodgers with a quick drop - in trouble! AND SACKED BY ALLEN! The ball is lose, the ball is lose, and recovered by Kevin Williams! And that's the ball game! Childress and the Vikings FINALLY beat the Packers!"
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Offline Packnic  
#10 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:27:05 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
The last time the Packers faced Allen, he didn't have the Williams twins lined up next to him. And given the way the Packer OL has performed so far, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Allen. I expect him to get at least one sack on September 8th.



that would be correct if Clifton was the only offensive lineman out there. The Williams twins got shut down last year 2 times including a 34-0 reaming. and Clifton didnt touch either of them.

I understand that your Dline is definitely better this year. But neither your Dline nor Jared Allen last year had anything for our Oline. I dont see why its crazy to expect the same results next year.

and if you're gonna make assumptions about our Oline based on preseason games... go right ahead. its silly, but go right ahead.


We didnt game plan for the 49ers like we should have... (like we should have in a regular season game at least). You think that we aren't already game planning for opening night? One sack is fair. 5 is downright laugable.
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Offline DakotaT  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:08:37 AM(UTC)
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Isn't a football player having another football player's picture considered gay, or stalking?

I like our 4 wide formation against the Vikings. They don't have one good D-back yet alone 4. I guess Winfield is a good tackler though. That leaves us 5 on four blocking, with the running back to chip block Mr. head case. That defense is tailor made for us to torch. Slow linebackers playing in a cover 2 with d-backs and safeties that can't match up to our wide receivers.
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Offline brnt247  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:44:17 PM(UTC)
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It's going to be tough to sack him 5 times when nearly every pass will be a 3 step or 5 step drop back. With this game more than any I expect the Pack to take full advantage of the west coast and work dumps to Grant and Jackson and then slants to Driver and Jennings.
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Offline johnny_blood  
#13 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:04:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Nobody intimidates the Green Bay Packers, especally [size=18]low lifes[/size] from the viqueens. More locker room clippings for our O-line people.



Green text + green background = sore eyes. Your posts are almost illegible. If you have to type in Packers colors maybe gold would be the way to go. Just a friendly note in case you were unaware.

As for Allen, he really likes to run his mouth! I haven't heard many interviews with him, does he come across as stupid? His fascination with the humor value of the number 69 makes me think he's at the mental level of a middle schooler. It's his football number, his bar's motto was "Wine 'em Dine 'em 69 'em", etc. He seems to be a doofus.
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Offline TheEngineer  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:12:24 PM(UTC)
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He might get a sack or two, but 5? Pure arrogance. Why do people with such poor attitudes get several million dollars per year to trash talk their heads off?
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Offline NodakPaul  
#15 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:34:32 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
He might get a sack or two, but 5? Pure arrogance. Why do people with such poor attitudes get several million dollars per year to trash talk their heads off?


To be honest, I haven't see or heard this "quote" anywhere else except for the original poster. I am starting to doubt it. He does talk a lot of smack, but that is one that I haven't seen. Even if he did say it, it is just that, smack. There is a difference between trash talking and honest expectations.

Also, keep in mind that it is not impossible by any means. Osi Umenyiora had 6 against the Eagles just last season. But I agree that we will more likely see one or two.

I am curious as to the "poor attitude" comment though. Why do you think that Allen has a poor attitude?
"There's the snap, Rodgers with a quick drop - in trouble! AND SACKED BY ALLEN! The ball is lose, the ball is lose, and recovered by Kevin Williams! And that's the ball game! Childress and the Vikings FINALLY beat the Packers!"
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Offline TheEngineer  
#16 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:55:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
He might get a sack or two, but 5? Pure arrogance. Why do people with such poor attitudes get several million dollars per year to trash talk their heads off?


To be honest, I haven't see or heard this "quote" anywhere else except for the original poster. I am starting to doubt it. He does talk a lot of smack, but that is one that I haven't seen. Even if he did say it, it is just that, smack. There is a difference between trash talking and honest expectations.

Also, keep in mind that it is not impossible by any means. Osi Umenyiora had 6 against the Eagles just last season. But I agree that we will more likely see one or two.

I am curious as to the "poor attitude" comment though. Why do you think that Allen has a poor attitude?


In regards to your comment about Umenyiora, I believe he was facing a rookie backup who unfortunately was nothing more than a minor inconvenience to Osi. Clifton is going to be a far harder body to get around.

As for your question, mostly it stems from Jared Allen's lack of exemplary off the field behaviour (e.g. his drink driving), and you can really compare how he approaches the game and life, compared to say, Aaron Kampman (who was out in tornado ravanged country helping where he could). As a well known athlete, he *should* be held to a higher standard than anybody else precisely because so many people look up to him and envy his ability. He gets paid an exorbitant amount for really what amounts to running around a park, chasing people. Hell, I've done that since I was 5. But nobody paid me to do it. Maybe I'm just bitter because I just spend the last 3 hours applying to companies for work, in what we call the real world :D.
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Offline stevegb  
#17 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:01:44 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
He might get a sack or two, but 5? Pure arrogance. Why do people with such poor attitudes get several million dollars per year to trash talk their heads off?


I think hes just doing it to make more a show of it. Anthony mundine does it to make more people watch him and to add a bit of drama to the game.
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Offline Packnic  
#18 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:14:04 PM(UTC)
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I dont understand why any player in the national football league would want to openly talk smack anyway.

every team in this league is filled with amazing athletes who sometimes lack one thing... motivation. To go out and freely give motivation to your opponents is pretty silly in my opinion.

For instance. We all know that Jared Allen is trying to hype himself up for the game. Having Arods picture in his locker keeps Jareds focus on beating the Packers. which is pretty motivating in itself for Jared apparently. Now say Arod was giving some beat writers something to talk about at his locker and said, " Jared Who? that guys a drunk chump, and won't even lay a hand on me. I am not worried about him in the slightest. He needs to worry about staying sober for five minutes instead of sacking me" Don't you think Jared Allens motivation just went from crazy obsessed to down right murderous insanity.


I just think its stupid of Allen. If you're banging some guys girlfriend, he probably already wants to kill you. Why put a full page picture of you banging her in the Sunday newspaper?
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Offline pack_in_black  
#19 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:30:49 PM(UTC)
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Is it a slightly out-of-focus picture taken from a group of bushes way off but with a telescoping lens that shows Aaron in his living room with his shirt off? Cause that would be creepy.


And how can JA get any sacks when he shows up to the game wasted? Cause he's, ya know, an alcoholic, so he'll def be drunk.
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Offline Pack93z  
#20 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:40:08 PM(UTC)
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Personally, I could give two pinches less what Jared Allen lips off about before the game, actually I hope he ratchets it up a bit and provides even a little more focus for some of our players.

Hopefully, it would be so outlandish that he draws some of the media attention that way.. then Cliffy can show up on that Monday night and silence him on the field.

Never was one for much of the smack talking.. although it generally was paid back at some point between the whistles..
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline NodakPaul  
#21 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:03:20 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Is it a slightly out-of-focus picture taken from a group of bushes way off but with a telescoping lens that shows Aaron in his living room with his shirt off? Cause that would be creepy.


And how can JA get any sacks when he shows up to the game wasted? Cause he's, ya know, an alcoholic, so he'll def be drunk.


You realize that Allen doesn't drink anymore, right? If the Packers never had any recovering alcoholics on their team, then maybe those digs would stick. But people who live in glass houses...
"There's the snap, Rodgers with a quick drop - in trouble! AND SACKED BY ALLEN! The ball is lose, the ball is lose, and recovered by Kevin Williams! And that's the ball game! Childress and the Vikings FINALLY beat the Packers!"
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Offline Cheesey  
#22 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:08:50 PM(UTC)
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I wonder if he looks at the picture while he pulls an "Ernest Borgnine???"
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Offline NodakPaul  
#23 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:11:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post

As for your question, mostly it stems from Jared Allen's lack of exemplary off the field behaviour (e.g. his drink driving), and you can really compare how he approaches the game and life, compared to say, Aaron Kampman (who was out in tornado ravanged country helping where he could). As a well known athlete, he *should* be held to a higher standard than anybody else precisely because so many people look up to him and envy his ability. He gets paid an exorbitant amount for really what amounts to running around a park, chasing people. Hell, I've done that since I was 5. But nobody paid me to do it. Maybe I'm just bitter because I just spend the last 3 hours applying to companies for work, in what we call the real world :D.


I like how you pick and choose examples to work with. You mention Kampman's work in tornado ravaged country, but conveniently don't talk about Allen helping out in flood ravaged Iowa, or in Hugo after the tornado destroyed a large neighborhood. You overlook Allen flying to Moorhead to promote youth sports. You also forgot all of the time and money he has donated to the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation. He even has a special program set aside to raise money for the foundation, called Sack Diabetes.

He has made mistakes, to be sure. It took a couple of days in jail for him to admit that he was an alcoholic, and has been sober ever since (going on two years sober for him in case you are curious). One thing that I like about him is that he has always been open with the media regarding his arrests and suspensions. He takes full responsibility, never tries to blame it on someone else (i.e. Cedric Benson). That speaks volumes IMHO.
"There's the snap, Rodgers with a quick drop - in trouble! AND SACKED BY ALLEN! The ball is lose, the ball is lose, and recovered by Kevin Williams! And that's the ball game! Childress and the Vikings FINALLY beat the Packers!"
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:12:59 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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BTW, Mike Harmon has picked Allen to lead the NFL in sacks again this year.
http://msn.foxsports.com/fantasy/story/8451088


He might, but Aaron Rodgers won't be a victim. However, I can see him crushing Kyle Orton and Kitna multiple times.

Wanna make a bet that Allen doesn't sack Rodgers? Some sort of forum bet, where your avatar wears a tutu or something. Hmm, this bet is getting sexy.


Not even one sack on Rodgers? OK, I am all about that bet!
"There's the snap, Rodgers with a quick drop - in trouble! AND SACKED BY ALLEN! The ball is lose, the ball is lose, and recovered by Kevin Williams! And that's the ball game! Childress and the Vikings FINALLY beat the Packers!"
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#25 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:18:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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Is it a slightly out-of-focus picture taken from a group of bushes way off but with a telescoping lens that shows Aaron in his living room with his shirt off? Cause that would be creepy.


And how can JA get any sacks when he shows up to the game wasted? Cause he's, ya know, an alcoholic, so he'll def be drunk.


You realize that Allen doesn't drink anymore, right? If the Packers never had any recovering alcoholics on their team, then maybe those digs would stick. But people who live in glass houses...



I know, Nodak. That comment was tongue-in-cheek. I should've said something about abusing pain pills, woulda been more obvious I guess, albeit not at all relevant to J A.






But the only reason it'd be creepy if that was the pic in his locker is because I haven't provided any prints from my personal collection to anyone, so how Allen would've gotten his purple mitts on my work is beyond me...
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