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User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#21 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:49:43 PM(UTC)
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i hope brett stays retired this time, i think he may regret coming back this year.


Not me, I wanted to watch him get hit often this year by Peppers, Vandendbosh, and Clay. Everyone played the Vikings last year to stop Peterson, and let Favre sit back there and play catch. This year things were going to change. I don't believe Minnesotas O-line is as good as years past due to age and lack of drafting. The lost their utility backup as well.

I'm going to take a wait and see approach on this because the waffle king needs more time.
Gravedigga  
#22 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 7:10:57 PM(UTC)
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I'm going to take a wait and see approach on this because the touchdown king deserves more time.


There, I fixed it for ya
ILikeThePackers39  
#23 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 7:19:32 PM(UTC)
Just to play with the idea a bit - if for some reason this is the real deal (we all know it isn't, but what the hell) and he is calling it quits, I wonder if it will turn out that the factor was what N.O. did to him in that last game.

Every other team in the league saw that and took careful notes. He knows it, too. He also (now) knows that there are players out there who would love nothing more than to pound him into the turf (not because they don't like him - because he's the best ever, and that's the guy you want to be known for taking down). And then he looks at that line - McKinney will get him killed, and he knows it. Hutch is still good, but he's getting slower, quickly. The guy @ center is no Matt Birk. So forth. It's not a bad line by any stretch, but it's not the line it used to be. If he hadn't been the guy taking snaps last year, that line would have looked a lot worse - he got out of a lot of sacks on his own.

There are a lot of things I've given Brett credit for over the years, but intelligence isn't one of them - perhaps, though, he did the math and realized that at some point there'll be a bullet he can't dodge.

Nah... he's coming back.
Zero2Cool  
#24 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 7:21:31 PM(UTC)
The Saints game and taking notes holds no relevance to his decision. Maybe the pain, but I doubt it. He's been around long enough. No one scheme can stop him, if you think differently, I feel you're mistaken.

Rattle his cage, make him play from behind. That's been the goal of defenses for more than a decade. Not many have succeeded, the Saints did.


With that said, do we have a link to actual Brett Favre comments on this, or is it all speculation yet?
masseyattack  
#25 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 7:23:13 PM(UTC)
I would be gutted if he didn't come back. I actually found myself watching Vikes games with more interest last year solely because of Favre (even if I was willing the opposing team to knock him on his backside most of the time.)

On a brighter note, if he does retire this really leaves the Packers as the class of the NFC North (if not the whole NFC alonside New Orleans). The drop off from Favre to Tavaris Jackson or Safe Rosenfels is huge.
Formo  
#26 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 8:01:56 PM(UTC)
I'll believe it when I see it. I'll still take him back if he pulled what he did last year, despite the contract. Hell, I'll be willing to wait until the regular season kicks off to have him come back.

So far all I've seen are rumors, never a direct quote from Favre. So who knows what the deal is..

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They could've drafted Jimmy Clausen in the late first or early second.


They were never interested in Clausen.. with or without Favre. They didn't invite him for workouts and I believe they never even attended any of his pro day stuff either.
Cheesey  
#27 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 8:14:46 PM(UTC)
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I'm going to take a wait and see approach on this because the INTERCEPTION king deserves more time.


There, I fixed it for ya

There, I fixed it for ya.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#28 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 8:26:31 PM(UTC)
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I'm going to take a wait and see approach on this because the touchdown king deserves more time.


There, I fixed it for ya


Waffles, touchdowns, picks; pick your poison. Let's all toast our once great "throwback" ironman quarterback, who's now reduced to being pampered like a spoiled child.
Cheesey  
#29 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 8:35:31 PM(UTC)
Those arn't "Pampers", Dakota.......those are "Depends".
LOL!
nyrpack  
#30 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:11:10 PM(UTC)
i hope he retires, then in 5 years in canton, ohio hes a green bay packer for life !!
Nonstopdrivel  
#31 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:16:43 PM(UTC)
Brett is the best ever? The numbers would beg to differ. He might -- might -- be in the top ten, but that's stretching it.
Packers_Finland  
#32 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:19:31 PM(UTC)
Brett Favre is a top 5 QB of all-time for sure if he retires now. Absolutely no question. Maybe top 3 even.

I'd rank him behind Joe Montana and Dan Marino.
Bigbyfan  
#33 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:19:35 PM(UTC)
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Brett is the best ever? The numbers would beg to differ. He might -- might -- be in the top ten, but that's stretching it.


"The numbers would beg to differ?" If you go by the numbers there is no question top 10, or even better.
Nonstopdrivel  
#34 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:25:54 PM(UTC)
If you go by raw numbers, perhaps. Anyone who's played as many games as he would have incredible raw numbers. But if you put his numbers in perspective -- that is, make rates and percentages out of them -- they fade quickly into the pack.
Packers_Finland  
#35 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:28:31 PM(UTC)
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If you go by raw numbers, perhaps. Anyone who's played as many games as he would have incredible raw numbers. But if you put his numbers in perspective -- that is, make rates and percentages out of them -- they fade quickly into the pack.


I would love if you did some research to back this up. I'm pretty sure Favre's TD averages per season are pretty high when compared against "legendary" QBs.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#36 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:28:45 PM(UTC)
Awe quarterback ranking, my favorite subject.

Elway, Favre, P. Manning, then Marino. The system quarterbacks don't compare to the gun slingers. Championships are won by teams and luck, not overrated drivers of offenses.
Nonstopdrivel  
#37 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:30:23 PM(UTC)
Finland, have a look at these numbers for starters.

In the words of holyterra:

Quote:
There are lots of QBs that are not only more consistent, but consistently better than Favre. He is about 17th on the list of all time career rating. It took a 107 this year to climb above Trent Green. He is still behind Daunte Culpepper and Jeff Garcia.
Rockmolder  
#38 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:36:19 PM(UTC)
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I'll believe it when I see it. I'll still take him back if he pulled what he did last year, despite the contract. Hell, I'll be willing to wait until the regular season kicks off to have him come back.

So far all I've seen are rumors, never a direct quote from Favre. So who knows what the deal is..

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They could've drafted Jimmy Clausen in the late first or early second.


They were never interested in Clausen.. with or without Favre. They didn't invite him for workouts and I believe they never even attended any of his pro day stuff either.


Fair enough. If they were really interested, they would've drafted him as their long term solution, anyway.
porky88  
#39 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 10:38:03 PM(UTC)
I believe it a week before the New Orleans game. Once Minnesota starts game planning for the Saints, that's the point of no return.

If he's physically able to play, he'll play.
Zero2Cool  
#40 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 10:41:39 PM(UTC)
I think its all funny, but still think he's playing in 2010.

Some say 'Brett didnt say it so Im not worried'. I say bull. Brett himself said he was done twice in six months and then three weeks after the latter, unretired. So, what he says, means squat.

I think its funny because its all over the media again and it has Vikings fan's ... thinking. Surely most of them realize, he's most likely returning, but for the group that's fretting ... weee dogggggie!
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