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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#31 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:16:43 PM(UTC)
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Brett is the best ever? The numbers would beg to differ. He might -- might -- be in the top ten, but that's stretching it.
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#32 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:19:31 PM(UTC)
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Brett Favre is a top 5 QB of all-time for sure if he retires now. Absolutely no question. Maybe top 3 even.

I'd rank him behind Joe Montana and Dan Marino.
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Brett is the best ever? The numbers would beg to differ. He might -- might -- be in the top ten, but that's stretching it.


"The numbers would beg to differ?" If you go by the numbers there is no question top 10, or even better.
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#34 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:25:54 PM(UTC)
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If you go by raw numbers, perhaps. Anyone who's played as many games as he would have incredible raw numbers. But if you put his numbers in perspective -- that is, make rates and percentages out of them -- they fade quickly into the pack.
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#35 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:28:31 PM(UTC)
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If you go by raw numbers, perhaps. Anyone who's played as many games as he would have incredible raw numbers. But if you put his numbers in perspective -- that is, make rates and percentages out of them -- they fade quickly into the pack.


I would love if you did some research to back this up. I'm pretty sure Favre's TD averages per season are pretty high when compared against "legendary" QBs.
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Awe quarterback ranking, my favorite subject.

Elway, Favre, P. Manning, then Marino. The system quarterbacks don't compare to the gun slingers. Championships are won by teams and luck, not overrated drivers of offenses.
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#37 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:30:23 PM(UTC)
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Finland, have a look at these numbers for starters.

In the words of holyterra:

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There are lots of QBs that are not only more consistent, but consistently better than Favre. He is about 17th on the list of all time career rating. It took a 107 this year to climb above Trent Green. He is still behind Daunte Culpepper and Jeff Garcia.
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I'll believe it when I see it. I'll still take him back if he pulled what he did last year, despite the contract. Hell, I'll be willing to wait until the regular season kicks off to have him come back.

So far all I've seen are rumors, never a direct quote from Favre. So who knows what the deal is..

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They could've drafted Jimmy Clausen in the late first or early second.


They were never interested in Clausen.. with or without Favre. They didn't invite him for workouts and I believe they never even attended any of his pro day stuff either.


Fair enough. If they were really interested, they would've drafted him as their long term solution, anyway.
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I believe it a week before the New Orleans game. Once Minnesota starts game planning for the Saints, that's the point of no return.

If he's physically able to play, he'll play.
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I think its all funny, but still think he's playing in 2010.

Some say 'Brett didnt say it so Im not worried'. I say bull. Brett himself said he was done twice in six months and then three weeks after the latter, unretired. So, what he says, means squat.

I think its funny because its all over the media again and it has Vikings fan's ... thinking. Surely most of them realize, he's most likely returning, but for the group that's fretting ... weee dogggggie!
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