Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
5 Pages<12345>
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#31 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:16:43 PM(UTC)

Rank: Select Member
United States
Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Location: Germany
Applause Given: 364
Applause Received: 263
Brett is the best ever? The numbers would beg to differ. He might -- might -- be in the top ten, but that's stretching it.
Offline Packers_Finland  
#32 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:19:31 PM(UTC)

Rank: Registered
Joined: 8/11/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 88
Applause Received: 45
Brett Favre is a top 5 QB of all-time for sure if he retires now. Absolutely no question. Maybe top 3 even.

I'd rank him behind Joe Montana and Dan Marino.
Offline Bigbyfan  
#33 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:19:35 PM(UTC)

Rank: Member
Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 49
Applause Received: 117
" said: Go to Quoted Post
Brett is the best ever? The numbers would beg to differ. He might -- might -- be in the top ten, but that's stretching it.


"The numbers would beg to differ?" If you go by the numbers there is no question top 10, or even better.
Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#34 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:25:54 PM(UTC)

Rank: Select Member
United States
Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Location: Germany
Applause Given: 364
Applause Received: 263
If you go by raw numbers, perhaps. Anyone who's played as many games as he would have incredible raw numbers. But if you put his numbers in perspective -- that is, make rates and percentages out of them -- they fade quickly into the pack.
Offline Packers_Finland  
#35 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:28:31 PM(UTC)

Rank: Registered
Joined: 8/11/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 88
Applause Received: 45
" said: Go to Quoted Post
If you go by raw numbers, perhaps. Anyone who's played as many games as he would have incredible raw numbers. But if you put his numbers in perspective -- that is, make rates and percentages out of them -- they fade quickly into the pack.


I would love if you did some research to back this up. I'm pretty sure Favre's TD averages per season are pretty high when compared against "legendary" QBs.
User is suspended until 5/30/2015 8:27:35 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#36 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:28:45 PM(UTC)

Rank: Honored Member
Joined: 8/18/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 755
Applause Received: 1,535
Awe quarterback ranking, my favorite subject.

Elway, Favre, P. Manning, then Marino. The system quarterbacks don't compare to the gun slingers. Championships are won by teams and luck, not overrated drivers of offenses.
Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#37 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:30:23 PM(UTC)

Rank: Select Member
United States
Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Location: Germany
Applause Given: 364
Applause Received: 263
Finland, have a look at these numbers for starters.

In the words of holyterra:

Quote:
There are lots of QBs that are not only more consistent, but consistently better than Favre. He is about 17th on the list of all time career rating. It took a 107 this year to climb above Trent Green. He is still behind Daunte Culpepper and Jeff Garcia.
Offline Rockmolder  
#38 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 9:36:19 PM(UTC)

FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2010

Rank: Veteran Member
Netherlands
Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 194
Applause Received: 315
" said: Go to Quoted Post
I'll believe it when I see it. I'll still take him back if he pulled what he did last year, despite the contract. Hell, I'll be willing to wait until the regular season kicks off to have him come back.

So far all I've seen are rumors, never a direct quote from Favre. So who knows what the deal is..

" said: Go to Quoted Post
They could've drafted Jimmy Clausen in the late first or early second.


They were never interested in Clausen.. with or without Favre. They didn't invite him for workouts and I believe they never even attended any of his pro day stuff either.


Fair enough. If they were really interested, they would've drafted him as their long term solution, anyway.
Offline porky88  
#39 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 10:38:03 PM(UTC)

FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Gold: 2012Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2013Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2014

Rank: Veteran Member
Joined: 4/26/2007(UTC)
Applause Given: 243
Applause Received: 485
I believe it a week before the New Orleans game. Once Minnesota starts game planning for the Saints, that's the point of no return.

If he's physically able to play, he'll play.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#40 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 10:41:39 PM(UTC)

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

Rank: Premier Member
United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,101
Applause Received: 2,667
I think its all funny, but still think he's playing in 2010.

Some say 'Brett didnt say it so Im not worried'. I say bull. Brett himself said he was done twice in six months and then three weeks after the latter, unretired. So, what he says, means squat.

I think its funny because its all over the media again and it has Vikings fan's ... thinking. Surely most of them realize, he's most likely returning, but for the group that's fretting ... weee dogggggie!
Offline dhazer  
#41 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 11:17:40 PM(UTC)

FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2013Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2009PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Bronze: 2013

Rank: Veteran Member
Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 68
Applause Received: 245
anyone think ESPN is just looking for some hot story? Hell on sportscenter they couldn't give any proof of Brett retiring. The head coach never heard it and Mr Ed says he hasn't heard anything and afterall Brett told him first about the surgery.

He will be back. But at times you have to feel sorry for the guy. He gets ridiculed for talking and then when he don't say anything they nail him that way. He is in a no win situation.
Offline dfosterf  
#42 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 11:24:41 PM(UTC)

Rank: Veteran Member
United States
Joined: 8/19/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 225
Applause Received: 459
It does make for a fun day.

We get (yet another) Brett Favre "tribute day", and it's on the Vikes fans "nickel"- so-to-speak---

They get to (most of 'em) freak out about it, speculate on what's going on, bitch, moan and whine---

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.

Brent will be a Viking this year, imo--

Hopefully Chilly and co. have to further kiss his ass in order for him to play, as I like that aspect, but I am not in the camp of Packer fans that want him gone in order to increase our chances to take the NFC North, etc.

I want to kick the Vikings asses with Brett Favre as their quarterback.
Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#43 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 11:25:53 PM(UTC)

Rank: Select Member
United States
Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Location: Germany
Applause Given: 364
Applause Received: 263
Quote:
[size=18]Brett Favre doesn't deserve our trust[/size]
August, 3, 2010

By Kevin Seifert

ALLEN PARK, Mich. -- You have my permission to be skeptical of Brett Favre's apparent intention to retire rather than play this season for the Minnesota Vikings. I know I am.

Favre deserves nothing but our skepticism, especially after announcing his retirement in March 2008. And July 2009. And, privately, several more times in between. Someday, it will be for real. But the only way we'll know that is if the season comes and goes without Favre in uniform. We're six months from that eventuality.

It's true, there might be more going on than we know. But this roller coaster is turning into a joke. I'm here at the Detroit Lions' training camp -- amazing, isn't it? -- and the first five Lions people I talked to all expressed the same reaction that you and I have.

As in, let's just wait a minute and see whether this really plays out the way it's being suggested it might.

Remember, Favre began texting Vikings players and coaches in July 2009 with the news that he would retire. He formally told coach Brad Childress the same thing on the eve of training camp, and within days he was texting Vikings players and asking them how camp was going.

By mid-August, he was on the practice field.

History can't always be our guide, and I'm sure some of you probably think I'm just in denial. Trust me, I'm not. You're not using your capacity as an intelligent human being if you don't have deep, deep reservations about the sincerity of Favre's mindset right now.

His status will be day-to-day until all 32 NFL teams don't want him to play for them. As long as there is one, just one, he remains a possibility to be in uniform.

Of course, we have to consider both sides of this. I'll be back shortly with some thoughts on where the Vikings, and the rest of the NFC North, will be if Favre indeed doesn't play this season. But, please, hold your breath on that one.
Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#44 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 11:27:50 PM(UTC)

Rank: Select Member
United States
Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Location: Germany
Applause Given: 364
Applause Received: 263
I find the timing of this leak highly suspicious. As someone else pointed out, as of today, Brett Favre is officially a holdout. It seems to me that giving word of retirement represents more a way to avoid the financial sanctions that would result from holding out than any serious decision to hang up the cleats.

I will say this, however: If Brett Favre is truly serious this time, he is nothing short of a dick for waiting until the eve of training camp to inform the Vikings of that fact. But then, what else is new?
Offline DGB454  
#45 Posted : Tuesday, August 3, 2010 11:27:54 PM(UTC)

Rank: Registered
United States
Joined: 11/18/2007(UTC)
Location: At home
Applause Given: 18
Applause Received: 7
He get's ridiculed because he says something to someone then doesn't say anything for a while then says just the opposite later. I'm sure at times he feels like he just can't go through another season but until he is sure he should not say anything about the subject except to his family.(wife and kids)
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
5 Pages<12345>
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (27-May) : Double Post error is fixed for now.
Zero2Cool (26-May) : I'll look into it later after work.
Zero2Cool (26-May) : Submitting a Post or new Topic is failing to redirect, but posts are submitted.
Smokey (25-May) : Let us remember the Men/Women who served in our nations military on this their Memorial Day.
Porforis (23-May) : Had the most horrible dream that the Packers were playing the Bears and LOST. Immediately realized it was a dream ;)
Mucky Tundra (22-May) : why not?
Zero2Cool (22-May) : Yes sir, but you can't ignore admins.
gbguy20 (21-May) : is there an ignore feature on this forum?
Smokey (15-May) : Rest in Peace B.B.King ! The thrill will never leave us !
Cheesey (14-May) : I really enjoyed the "Mr. Rodgers" sweater he wore!
Cheesey (14-May) : I can't believe Aaron missed the "Harley/Davidson" question!
gbguy20 (13-May) : if he lost i blame ted thompson
gbguy20 (13-May) : did he win or did his defense let him down
Smokey (12-May) : Aaron Rodgers on Jeopardy tonight. Don't miss it !
Zero2Cool (12-May) : boomies boom!!
gbguy20 (11-May) : good evening
Zero2Cool (10-May) : Start a topic in feedback explaining how to produce this error please. No shout about it.
Smokey (10-May) : I'd like to report that your reporting system won't allow reports. A catch 22 reporting sys.
Smokey (9-May) : There are dozens of WR list for 2015 available or will be. Fantasy Draft more than 3 months away.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : He wants to get the upper hand in his league is all.
greengold (9-May) : Smokey, are you drunk?
Smokey (9-May) : Post your TOP 20 Fantasy Receivers today !
Zero2Cool (9-May) : Today's Birthdays: voiceofreason (30)
greengold (7-May) : La'el Collins to Cowboys on UDFA deal. That's one way to get around the salary cap!!!
TheKanataThrilla (7-May) : La'el Collins signs with the Cowboys
Smokey (7-May) : Unitas would have been 82 today, it was my good fortune to see him play. Those Unitas / Starr matchups were golden.
Zero2Cool (6-May) : woohoo
gbguy20 (5-May) : i think its fixed now :)
Zero2Cool (5-May) : lol
gbguy20 (4-May) : century link is a bunch of idiots
gbguy20 (4-May) : definitely my end.
gbguy20 (4-May) : *to get my last post to go thru
gbguy20 (4-May) : Is the problem with this site on my end or your end? Everytime I try to post the "Connection resets" it took me 20 minutes to get my lost t
Zero2Cool (4-May) : Nice, thanks!
gbguy20 (4-May) : no i've seen it the right way all along. I just wanted to let you know it looks good.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2015 Schedule
Sunday, Sep 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Sunday, Sep 20 @ 7:30 PM
SEAHAWKS
Monday, Sep 28 @ 7:30 PM
CHIEFS
Sunday, Oct 4 @ 3:25 PM
at 49ers
Sunday, Oct 11 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Oct 18 @ 3:25 PM
CHARGERS
Sunday, Oct 25 @ 12:00 AM
- BYE -
Sunday, Nov 1 @ 7:30 PM
at Broncos
Sunday, Nov 8 @ 12:00 PM
at Panthers
Sunday, Nov 15 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 22 @ 12:00 PM
at Vikings
Thursday, Nov 26 @ 7:30 PM
BEARS
Thursday, Dec 3 @ 7:25 PM
at Lions
Sunday, Dec 13 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Sunday, Dec 20 @ 3:05 PM
at Raiders
Sunday, Dec 27 @ 3:25 PM
at Cardinals
Sunday, Jan 3 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS

Recent Topics
2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / steveishere

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / mi_keys

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / gbguy20

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / mi_keys

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

11h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / steveishere

12h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackerTraxx

14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackerTraxx

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann


Tweeter