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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 12:29:40 PM(UTC)
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Currently, Vikings quarterback Brett Favre is due to earn a base salary of $13 million in 2010. In an effort to persuade him not to retire, the Vikings are willing to bump the number to $16 million, and then some.

Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reports that the Vikings have offered a $3 million raise to Favre, along with incentives that if met would push the total even higher.

We still think Favre also will hold out for the ability to show up a week or so before the regular-season opener. And giving coach Brad Childress an atomic wedgie on national television probably remains a deal breaker for Brett.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 12:32:09 PM(UTC)
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The Vikings should pay him at least 2 million per game. He's the only reason to watch the Vikings, oh and to see how many times Adrian pumps the ball to the ground.
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Offline Nonstopdrivel  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 12:32:10 PM(UTC)
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Wow. Would that make him the highest-paid quarterback for a single season in NFL history?
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Offline Pack93z  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 12:37:48 PM(UTC)
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A couple of texts could be worth 3 Million.. Brett is a freaking genius.. Flip flopping has made him a very rich man.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline DakotaT  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 12:53:45 PM(UTC)
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A couple of texts could be worth 3 Million.. Brett is a freaking genius.. Flip flopping has made him a very rich man.


I think Mrs. Brett Favre pulls those strings. The Vikings and Brett look very, very bad in this situation.
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Offline Pack93z  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 12:59:10 PM(UTC)
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I agree the Vikings look like the desperate prom queen that got stood up... but they have little choice when they punted the ball into Brett's court the last 12 to 14 months..

I think long ago Brett showed that he gives a rip how he is perceived publicly.. and the more he flounders around like a out of water guppy the better the Packers look in hindsight for their part in the initial divorce in 08'.

Sentiment in MN is quickly turning on the legend..
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline DakotaT  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 1:05:46 PM(UTC)
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Sentiment in MN is quickly turning on the legend..


Are you kidding, they'll collectively bend over for Favre, smile, and say thank you may I have another. I wonder how Form and Nick are doing today?
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Offline bozz_2006  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 1:05:50 PM(UTC)
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Where do you get the sense that the sentiment has turned in MN?
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 1:18:55 PM(UTC)
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Well there is this.. and there is the text I have gotten from my relation the Viking fans.. to quote my cousin.. "I would rather go 6-10 than have Brett "save us" this season. He is pathetic."




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They warned us. Remember?

The embedded Packers fans amongst us warned us that Brett Favre would break our hearts, whether on the field of play or in the absurd theater of his mind. He would throw the killing interception when you least wanted or expected it, would turn our summers into melodramas that teased, then annoyed, then infuriated us.

Could they have been more right? Could they have asked for any more reason to say, "I told you so?"

From mid-August through early January last season, Favre gave us the most remarkable season of any quarterback in franchise history and the most efficient season of his stunning career.

If we dare take him seriously amid his latest threats of retirement -- and history tells us we should not -- he will have devastated a franchise that treated him with deference and reverence and betrayed the trust of his teammates and coaches.

He will have done so in just the manner Packers fans predicted, by throwing an inexplicable, championship-losing interception on his final play in purple, then turning his decision on retirement into a sad serial of self-indulgence.

If he indeed retires, he would no longer be the Hamlet of Hattiesburg, but something more akin to Iago, who left destruction in his wake.

Favre has earned comparisons to boxers who retire only to announce their comeback, but the comparison is not apt. Boxers are individuals. Favre plays the position at the nexus of the most intricately choreographed team sport in existence.

If he indeed retires, he will have betrayed everyone in purple from owner Zygi Wilf to aging defensive tackle Pat Williams, who might not have even returned if not for the promise of a Favre-directed championship.

When I arrived on the practice field Friday morning to watch the Vikings' first training camp practice, I ran into Wilf. The conversation was not for the record, but I can tell you that he was optimistic, almost buoyant, while chatting about his team.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline bozz_2006  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 1:23:29 PM(UTC)
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Most of my Vikings friends (and there are a LOT, as I have lived my whole life in Vikings territory) have generally been of the opinion that, "seriously? He's retiring now? Yeah right, he's coming back." They're being surprisingly level-headed about this... which pisses me right off! lol
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Offline Pack93z  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 1:30:39 PM(UTC)
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Other than the humor aspect, I care not if he plays or not...


But to be honest.. there is a small part of me that is reveling in the drama Brett is once again stirring.. it will do nothing to help the Vikes and Vikesrule this coming season.. I smell defeat.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 1:33:12 PM(UTC)
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The offer is jumping... lol.. flat out panic has set in.. or media types are winging it.. ;)

http://www.jsonline.com/.../wisconsin/99934284.html

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Here's the latest from the Minneapolis Star Tribune on the latest Brett Favre drama. Vikings beat reporter Judd Zulgad, who got this whole thing rolling yesterday, reports that NFL sources tell him the Vikings have offered Favre a package that would pay him up to $20 million to return this year instead of the previously agreed-upon $13 million.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline dhpackr  
#13 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 1:56:24 PM(UTC)
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20 million is a ton of money, take the money and play brett
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 1:57:29 PM(UTC)
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I wonder what the incentives are?
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 2:07:58 PM(UTC)
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I wonder what the incentives are?


Fly into MN.. have Chilly pick you up, fawn over you in the press and save his ass for another season. ;)
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#16 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 2:19:28 PM(UTC)
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Offering more money shows how desperate the Vikings are and how they know the window of opportunity is closing, FAST.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 2:21:18 PM(UTC)
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20 million is a ton of money, take the money and play brett


I agree. We all pretty much know he's going to be on the field this year, that's a no brainer.

If someone wanted to pay me 20 million to kick my ass for 60 minutes playing football 16 times a year, I'll sign that contract faster than Rosie O'Donnell can make a twinkie disappear.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 2:21:45 PM(UTC)
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If I'm Adrian Peterson's agent, I hold out right now.
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 2:22:50 PM(UTC)
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A figure of $20 million borders not on the absurd but on the sublime. We're talking MLB or NBA money here. If we can believe the rumors, the Vikings are mortgaging their (presumably salary-capped) future for one year. Or should we say they're gambling with our team's dollars for a one-year stab at glory?

Revenue-sharing-funds-dipping sons of bitches.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 2:23:52 PM(UTC)
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ESPN and NFL Network should also chip in for that, Favre Watch is so nuts on those two.
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#21 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 2:24:48 PM(UTC)
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Ha! Favre should claim endorsement dollars for all the advertising spots they're selling covering his little soap opera. If he was smart, he'd trademark phrases like "FavreWatch."
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 2:27:48 PM(UTC)
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A figure of $20 million borders not on the absurd but on the sublime. We're talking MLB or NBA money here. If we can believe the rumors, the Vikings are mortgaging their (presumably salary-capped) future for one year. Or should we say they're gambling with our team's dollars for a one-year stab at glory?

Revenue-sharing-funds-dipping sons of bitches.


If your them, why wouldn't you, the rules let you. Favre jersey sales, Favre tv ratings for games, them trying to get a city to fund a new stadium, etc. He's worth it. I don't know why people hate on the Jets for getting Favre, it worked perfect for them for their PSL plans, it got an otherwise useless franchise hyped up for no reason. Whatever they pay him, he's worth it to them. If he doesn't play this year, I believe they will lose more than $7 million compared to last year.

Overall, it still surpises me how greedy players are though. How much money has Favre made in his career? I guess I would do the same when someone is offering it to you but still, its nuts. But I don't blame the Vikings for trying.
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 2:33:46 PM(UTC)
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If your them


If my what?

Of course it makes sense for them, assuming the forthcoming CBA has a grandfather clause, and as you point out, it's entirely within the rules.

But it still rankles for me as a fan of a team that has been fiscally responsible and only managed to eke out a $5 million profit on revenue of somewhere near $258 million in the 2009-10 fiscal year. (Compare that to the $20.1 million profit they turned the previous fiscal year).
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#24 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 3:58:55 PM(UTC)
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Most of my Vikings friends (and there are a LOT, as I have lived my whole life in Vikings territory) have generally been of the opinion that, "seriously? He's retiring now? Yeah right, he's coming back." They're being surprisingly level-headed about this... which pisses me right off! lol


Look, even before the Mariucci information last night, all day i was like, yea right. I call BS. Childress knows nothing, Favre said nothing, nothing confirmed, anonymous sources. Slow rating week for ESPN, that's all.

Also, I cant think of too many more players more deserving of a raise after last season than Favre. It's his money, if he can get it, so be it. Are we to feel bad for the billionaire owner who will have to fork over a few extra bucks to make his team relevant once again? He stands to make a whole lot more money with Brett than without him this year.
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#25 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 4:01:37 PM(UTC)
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20 million is a ton of money, take the money and play brett


I agree. We all pretty much know he's going to be on the field this year, that's a no brainer.

If someone wanted to pay me 20 million to kick my ass for 60 minutes playing football 16 times a year, I'll sign that contract faster than Rosie O'Donnell can make a twinkie disappear.


For 20 million, i'll fight 10 guys for 3 hours straight with one hand tied behind my back every sunday for 3 hours.
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