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Offline Pack93z  
#31 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 4:46:16 PM(UTC)
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That and to watch Formo flip his on / off switch back to off with regards to his admiration of Brett. ;)
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#32 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 5:03:24 PM(UTC)
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As many have said, nothing came from Brett that we heard, so it's all hearsay. What we are enjoying is the circus that does not center in Green Bay, WI this time around. :)

And as I've said many times before, I don't like how the media jumps the gun on things. On the radio. Marcellis Wiley? kept saying Brett retired. I thought, wha?? no he didn't. Why say that stuff? Does it make him look bad when Brett shows up? No, it makes Brett look even MORE indecisive than he already is. No one will remember Wiley saying Brett retired August 3rd, 2010. They'll just remember they heard a guy on the radio state Brett retired, again.

I still think it's funny ... because it doesn't directly involve the Packers. :)


Visanthe Shiancoe story

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Tight-end Visanthe Shiancoe said he learned of the messages by talking to several teammates, though he had not received any direct messages from Favre.

He told a couple guys on our team hes going to retire, Shiancoe said after practice on Tuesday evening. He hasnt told me, but Im going to check my phone.


Either Vistanthe is lying or Brett is

And we all know how truthful Brett is
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#33 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 5:56:04 PM(UTC)
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lol

There never was an 'on-off' switch, my dood. Objectivity, my friend.

In fact, I just have the luxury to say "I told you so" to you guys and any Viking fan (VR) that opposed Favre joining the team. He actually WAS an improvement and like I said the Vikings didn't have any other option outside of T-Jack. Last I checked.. they still don't have another option behind T-Jack (well.. if you can call Sage an option, that's fine.. Either way, Favre > T-Jack & Sage).
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#34 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 6:24:01 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
lol

There never was an 'on-off' switch, my dood. Objectivity, my friend.

In fact, I just have the luxury to say "I told you so" to you guys and any Viking fan (VR) that opposed Favre joining the team. He actually WAS an improvement and like I said the Vikings didn't have any other option outside of T-Jack. Last I checked.. they still don't have another option behind T-Jack (well.. if you can call Sage an option, that's fine.. Either way, Favre > T-Jack & Sage).


Right now, no they have very few options, Jeff George?

If Brett does retire, he should have (for the Vikings sake) done so before the draft. That would have allowed the Vikings to scout QB's and also perhaps land someone like McNabb or Campbell. I think Jason would have been a good fit for the Vikings team.

By not saying anything, the Vikings are admitting they are okay with putting all their eggs into one basket. If they had drafted a QB in the first round, don't hesitate to think Brett wouldn't have been bothered. One of his biggest fears, to this very day, is being replaced. He claims it's one of the things that kept him on the field through pain and injuries.
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#35 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 6:36:10 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
lol

There never was an 'on-off' switch, my dood. Objectivity, my friend.

In fact, I just have the luxury to say "I told you so" to you guys and any Viking fan (VR) that opposed Favre joining the team. He actually WAS an improvement and like I said the Vikings didn't have any other option outside of T-Jack. Last I checked.. they still don't have another option behind T-Jack (well.. if you can call Sage an option, that's fine.. Either way, Favre > T-Jack & Sage).


Right now, no they have very few options, Jeff George?

If Brett does retire, he should have (for the Vikings sake) done so before the draft. That would have allowed the Vikings to scout QB's and also perhaps land someone like McNabb or Campbell. I think Jason would have been a good fit for the Vikings team.

By not saying anything, the Vikings are admitting they are okay with putting all their eggs into one basket. If they had drafted a QB in the first round, don't hesitate to think Brett wouldn't have been bothered. One of his biggest fears, to this very day, is being replaced. He claims it's one of the things that kept him on the field through pain and injuries.



Since when do the Vikings have a quarterback as their top priority in the draft? They passed on Rodgers twice and this year the passed on both Clausen and Colt McCoy. And even if they did draft a young quarterback prospect, who on their coaching staff is going to develop him: Chilly, Bevell, please! I know Chilly takes credit for Donovan McNabb, but come on, Andy Reid put in the time there.

I PM'd VR on this right after the draft and we agreed that not taking Clausen was another draft day mistake.
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#36 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 6:41:21 PM(UTC)
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I've said this before, I'll say it again.. The Vikings would have NEVER drafted Clausen. They had almost zero interest in him. Whether or not that's the right mindset.. only time will tell.

Viking fans need to pull their heads out of Clausen's arse. If he become's a Pro Bowl QB, THEN we can be pissy about passing on him.

I would have liked to see the Vikings pick a QB in the draft this last year.. but it wasn't in the cards. Lo and behold, next year's draft is supposedly going to be deeper in the QB dept. I think that was the mindset of the Vikings brass.
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#37 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 6:54:52 PM(UTC)
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I will maintain Colt McCoy will be good. :)
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#38 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 6:59:34 PM(UTC)
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Formo is clearly in denial. ;)

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I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#39 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 7:09:27 PM(UTC)
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What's wrong with doing your sister? :cyclopsani:
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#40 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 7:20:08 PM(UTC)
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What's wrong with doing your sister? :cyclopsani:
Nothing, depending on what she looks like!!!! :bigsmurf:
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#41 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 7:28:13 PM(UTC)
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:bigsmurf:

Well, if your sister looks like THAT, it's just wrong.
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#42 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 7:34:59 PM(UTC)
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[size=18]Health, not not money, will determine whether Favre plays[/size]
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Published: Aug. 4, 2010 at 10:52 a.m. Updated: Aug. 4, 2010 at 02:38 p.m.

Brett Favre said Wednesday that his health, not money, would determine if he returns to play for the Minnesota Vikings this season.

Earlier, Favre's agent, Bus Cook, told NFL Network analyst Steve Mariucci that Favre has not made a decision about retirement.

Favre briefly addressed cameras after he had warmed up with the Oak Grove High School football team in Hattiesburg, Miss., saying that he did not send text messages to Vikings teammates stating he was going to retire.

As for a return, Favre said, "If I'm healthy, sure."

A timetable for that, however, is "up for discussion."

The quarterback also addressed a Minnesota newspaper report that the Vikings have offered him additional financial incentives to return, saying, "It's not about the money."

A The Star Tribune report Wednesday said that the Vikings' pitch to bring back Favre includes an offer that could pay him $20 million -- $16 million guaranteed, plus incentives potentially worth another $4 million. That is $7 million more than Favre was scheduled to make this season.

Favre did not appear to be working out with the Oak Grove team, according to reports by NFL Network's Scott Hanson and The Associated Press. Instead, the quarterback simply ran onto the field and began lightly tossing the ball with players in warm-ups. Favre then helped an assistant coach as the players went through drills.

Favre has made regular appearances at Oak Grove during the summer for several years, working out with players during informal drills as he prepared for the upcoming NFL season.

Cook told Mariucci that any potential comeback hinges on Favre's health, not a healthier contract.

Cook told Mariucci: "As far as Brett is concerned, in spite of reports to the contrary, Brett's situation has nothing to do with his contract, but everything to do with his health and ability to contribute to that team and play at a level that he has been accustomed to playing over the years. Brett's ankle, which needed surgery since 2007, was surgically repaired this last spring by Dr. James Andrews. Until such time, Brett feels he can play at a level that he expects of himself, no decision will be made.

"Brett has an appointment to see Dr. Andrews next week and will know more at that time. Brett continues working every day, rehabbing his ankle and will see after his visit with Dr. Andrews what his status is at that time."

Minnesota Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell said Favre will play this season if his ankle allows it.

Bevell spoke on Wednesday after the Vikings' morning practice. He has been close friends with Favre dating back to when Bevell was the quarterbacks coach for the Green Bay Packers.

Bevell says he has spoken to the 40-year-old quarterback recently, but not in the last 24 hours. He says it's been his understanding all along that if Favre's ankle heals well enough, Favre will return to play for the Vikings this season.

Favre's comments Wednesday came one day after reports said that he told Minnesota Vikings players and officials he won't return for a 20th season. The former league MVP reportedly told the Vikings his ankle is not responding well after offseason surgery.

The confusion over Favre's status flooded Vikings training camp Tuesday, where tight end Visanthe Shiancoe revealed he heard the quarterback had started to contact teammates and team officials to say he will not return for a 20th NFL season.

"He told a couple guys on our team he's going to retire," Shiancoe said after Tuesday night's practice. "He hasn't told me yet. I'm going to check my phone right now, but it hasn't been said publicly yet, so I don't know what to believe."

When asked Wednesday about Shiancoe's comment, Favre laughed and responded, "Shanc, that's why I love him."

Vikings coach Brad Childress said Favre hadn't told him directly that he plans to retire as of Tuesday morning. The coach wouldn't confirm Favre's status with the team, calling it a "fluid situation," and he was unavailable for comment after the night practice.

"I'm not a big hearsay person," Childress said. "I gotta hear it from the horse's mouth."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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#43 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 7:42:41 PM(UTC)
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After watching the video on NFL.com, I felt bad for the guy. He's out working with some kids and some media punk (Ed Werder i think) stands between him and closing his truck door trying to pry information out.

You could see Brett wasn't happy about it.

Edit, from the truck side interview, I think he know's what we all assume ... he'll be playing.
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#44 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 7:45:09 PM(UTC)
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While yes I feel for the every prying media types wedging themselves into his life.. he doesn't have to look far with all the mixed messages the guy sends out..

Simply.. say nothing until you know and have the conviction in your own mind.. and fuck them if they can't respect that. If he would have done that from day one.. this nonsense would be dead long ago.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#45 Posted : Wednesday, August 4, 2010 7:49:07 PM(UTC)
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I couldn't agree more. You see Favre's indecisive shtick even in this short video. He first tells Werder that it's not up for discussion . . . but then he lingers to chat anyway. Say what you mean and mean what you say for once.
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