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Pack93z  
#81 Posted : Monday, August 9, 2010 6:06:14 PM(UTC)
LT... I think the article speaks more of the later years of Brett in Green Bay than he is trying to retract the events of last week.

It reads very much like a locker room in Green Bay that was age segregated from Brett more so.. without the large presence of veteran players for Brett to "hang" with. The younger locker room didn't hold the same "love" for Brett that he needed / wanted..
Gravedigga  
#82 Posted : Monday, August 9, 2010 6:06:41 PM(UTC)
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Brett did indeed lie


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After spending a few days in Minnesota, the events of the latest chapter in Favre's long-running soap opera now appear much clearer. Here is the story, from the inside.

Favre indeed sent text messages to teammates telling them he was forgoing his 20th season, citing his health as the reason. According to sources, while the texts seemed pretty convincing that he had made up his mind, the team wasn't letting their gunslinger slip off into the sunset without a fight.

In a two-pronged attack, the Vikings organization immediately jumped into action, offering him a much more lucrative package for this season and pleading with him to reconsider his decision. Simultaneously, veteran players immediately implored teammates to bombard Favre with texts or calls, asking him to give them one last shot at the Super Bowl.

As one source explained to me, Favre probably wasn't prepared for such an outpouring. When he left the Packers there wasn't much love, if any, from teammates asking him to reconsider. And there certainly wasn't any from Jets' players. But with this team, Favre was completely beloved, and for the first time, had an entire locker room figuratively pounding down his door like a husband begging his wife not to file for divorce.

"He's torn," said another member of the Vikings. "I think in his mind he was done, but loves the guys in this locker room and doesn't want to let them down. He didn't want to (come back), but I don't think he can say no to these guys. He's tortured."



Wow........that's all I have to say
dingus  
#83 Posted : Monday, August 9, 2010 7:47:46 PM(UTC)
Wow is right, Jay Glazer covering his ass, and the Vikings players showing the awareness that without Favre they don't stand a chance.

If he truly thought his ankle was not where it should be, he'd stick to his guns and hang em up. Otherwise it would be detrimental to his health and the team.
Nonstopdrivel  
#84 Posted : Monday, August 9, 2010 8:54:26 PM(UTC)
So are we to infer from this that his teammates were faking the admiration they expressed for him all those years, that they were just toeing the party line?

Hmmm, maybe it's not such a stretch. As a fan, I was royally pissed off after some of his playoff meltdowns. I can't imagine how furious the players must have been.
porky88  
#85 Posted : Monday, August 9, 2010 11:27:48 PM(UTC)
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Brett did indeed lie


Quote:
After spending a few days in Minnesota, the events of the latest chapter in Favre's long-running soap opera now appear much clearer. Here is the story, from the inside.

Favre indeed sent text messages to teammates telling them he was forgoing his 20th season, citing his health as the reason. According to sources, while the texts seemed pretty convincing that he had made up his mind, the team wasn't letting their gunslinger slip off into the sunset without a fight.

In a two-pronged attack, the Vikings organization immediately jumped into action, offering him a much more lucrative package for this season and pleading with him to reconsider his decision. Simultaneously, veteran players immediately implored teammates to bombard Favre with texts or calls, asking him to give them one last shot at the Super Bowl.

As one source explained to me, Favre probably wasn't prepared for such an outpouring. When he left the Packers there wasn't much love, if any, from teammates asking him to reconsider. And there certainly wasn't any from Jets' players. But with this team, Favre was completely beloved, and for the first time, had an entire locker room figuratively pounding down his door like a husband begging his wife not to file for divorce.

"He's torn," said another member of the Vikings. "I think in his mind he was done, but loves the guys in this locker room and doesn't want to let them down. He didn't want to (come back), but I don't think he can say no to these guys. He's tortured."


Favre lied!!! Next you'll tell me that coaches, GMs and politicians lie too.
Zero2Cool  
#86 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:25:50 AM(UTC)
Great, this means we'll have a 2nd teary eyed retirement speech.
gopackers08  
#87 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:01:56 AM(UTC)
I always thought the whole texting that "he's done" was premature. Why would Favre still be playing football with highschool kids and rehabbing his ankle so aggressively if all he wanted to do was retire.

Favre will go out to play even if he needs a walker to get on the field and I hope he plays well this year....just not against the Packers.

I do think that the Packers are the favorites to win the division even with Favre coming back.
porky88  
#88 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:42:09 AM(UTC)
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Great, this means we'll have a 2nd teary eyed retirement speech.


Nope. He'll sit out the first four weeks and then come in. I'm calling it now, which means he'll probably retire because Favre is the most unpredictable athlete of all time.

Seriously, I think that's the best thing for everyone involved. Sit him and let him heal. Why would you want Favre to go up against a dirty team like New Orleans? Yes, I said dirty. Who cares if you lose a road game against the defending champs. You get Favre back after a 1-2 start and there is no reason why you can't go 10-3 the rest of the way. That gets you in the playoffs for a run.

The biggest thing here is whether or not Favre's ankle responds even in that time span and whether or not his ego will let him miss a couple of games.
Zero2Cool  
#89 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:56:24 AM(UTC)
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Great, this means we'll have a 2nd teary eyed retirement speech.


Nope. He'll sit out the first four weeks and then come in. I'm calling it now, which means he'll probably retire because Favre is the most unpredictable athlete of all time.

Seriously, I think that's the best thing for everyone involved. Sit him and let him heal. Why would you want Favre to go up against a dirty team like New Orleans? Yes, I said dirty. Who cares if you lose a road game against the defending champs. You get Favre back after a 1-2 start and there is no reason why you can't go 10-3 the rest of the way. That gets you in the playoffs for a run.

The biggest thing here is whether or not Favre's ankle responds even in that time span and whether or not his ego will let him miss a couple of games.


Yep. Because he can not play forever, therefore, when he retires, he will cry, again. Why? Because of the outpouring love from his teammates.
MassPackersFan  
#90 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:53:31 AM(UTC)
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Great, this means we'll have a 2nd teary eyed retirement speech.


Nope. He'll sit out the first four weeks and then come in. I'm calling it now, which means he'll probably retire because Favre is the most unpredictable athlete of all time.

Seriously, I think that's the best thing for everyone involved. Sit him and let him heal. Why would you want Favre to go up against a dirty team like New Orleans? Yes, I said dirty. Who cares if you lose a road game against the defending champs. You get Favre back after a 1-2 start and there is no reason why you can't go 10-3 the rest of the way. That gets you in the playoffs for a run.

The biggest thing here is whether or not Favre's ankle responds even in that time span and whether or not his ego will let him miss a couple of games.


Calling the Saints a dirty team is like calling that man in your signature a bigot. It may be technically true because you can point to a few instances, but they're/he's good enough that it doesn't matter.
Wade  
#91 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:13:02 PM(UTC)
I wouldn't call the Saints a dirty team. I haven't seen them play enough to tell. IMO they did have a "dirty strategy" for the playoff game against Minnesota. There were too many low hits/borderline late hits, plus their DC was unapologetic. I'm not a Viking fan, but it looked to me like part of their strategy was to take #4 out.

And much as I hate the Vikings, that to me is not the way the game is supposed to be played.

If they had been playing against anyone other than Peyton Manning, I probably would have rooted for the Colts in the Super Bowl. Instead, I decided to do something else that evening and paid more attention to Super Bowl commercials than to the game itself.
RedSoxExcel  
#92 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:54:47 PM(UTC)
If all these texts happened (and I don't understand why anyone cares), why doesn't one of these reporters look at one and post what it said? I'm sure Favre didn't send personal messages to every single person, they were likely a mass message, so its not like the person is going to be "outted".

I am so confused about this whole thing. On the first day, the story got reported, Favre did not say anything. So if these players did receive these texts, why wouldn't the ones that did, just say something? Why would Longwell, Allen, Hutchinson, Peterson, etc. all lie.

And what is Favre's motivation for lying, or what is Longwell's motivation for lying. I am dumbfounded about just how much the media and the public cares about Favre. Texts that apprently happened but no one saw then caused ESPN to have a Favre special and caused NFL network to have a Favre special, every news outlet in North America picking it up and columnists poking at Favre for being selfish, etc. ALL from texts that these reporters havn't even seen?!
Zero2Cool  
#93 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:13:38 PM(UTC)
I think ... Brett did send the messages and the Vikings higher ups went crazy go nuts trying to change Brett's mind. Meanwhile, the players didn't know how to respond publicly. Damn well knowing if they said he's retiring, it might trip him into retiring and causing a spanking from the coaching staff.
longtimefan  
#94 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:28:39 PM(UTC)
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If all these texts happened (and I don't understand why anyone cares), why doesn't one of these reporters look at one and post what it said? I'm sure Favre didn't send personal messages to every single person, they were likely a mass message, so its not like the person is going to be "outted".

I am so confused about this whole thing. On the first day, the story got reported, Favre did not say anything. So if these players did receive these texts, why wouldn't the ones that did, just say something? Why would Longwell, Allen, Hutchinson, Peterson, etc. all lie.

And what is Favre's motivation for lying, or what is Longwell's motivation for lying. I am dumbfounded about just how much the media and the public cares about Favre. Texts that apprently happened but no one saw then caused ESPN to have a Favre special and caused NFL network to have a Favre special, every news outlet in North America picking it up and columnists poking at Favre for being selfish, etc. ALL from texts that these reporters havn't even seen?!


Visanthe Shiancoe did say it !!!

and in Jay's article he said this

Quote:
In the end, will Favre play? Absolutely, unless his ankle will put him in harm's way this year. Do I feel Favre felt he was done last week? No doubt, more so now that I've seen and heard the evidence.


To me he talked to the players and was told what the texts said..

but no one believes it cuz names are not put out
Cheesey  
#95 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:16:26 PM(UTC)
He didn't expect the outpouring???
Come on....does ANYONE believe that?
Each time he retired, you'd think the world was coming to an end! He got all the "sports" talking heads fawning over him, front page on all the magazines. Heck, magazines just about HIM.
He knows what he's doing.
Getting a big fat raise, and all the publicity he could want.
he's NOT stupid.
Formo  
#96 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:33:32 PM(UTC)
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" said: Go to Quoted Post
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Great, this means we'll have a 2nd teary eyed retirement speech.


Nope. He'll sit out the first four weeks and then come in. I'm calling it now, which means he'll probably retire because Favre is the most unpredictable athlete of all time.

Seriously, I think that's the best thing for everyone involved. Sit him and let him heal. Why would you want Favre to go up against a dirty team like New Orleans? Yes, I said dirty. Who cares if you lose a road game against the defending champs. You get Favre back after a 1-2 start and there is no reason why you can't go 10-3 the rest of the way. That gets you in the playoffs for a run.

The biggest thing here is whether or not Favre's ankle responds even in that time span and whether or not his ego will let him miss a couple of games.


Calling the Saints a dirty team is like calling that man in your signature a bigot. It may be technically true because you can point to a few instances, but they're/he's good enough that it doesn't matter.


You are more of a bigot than any bible thumping Christian I have met. And I have met quite a few bible thumpers in my life.
Nonstopdrivel  
#97 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:49:57 PM(UTC)
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RedSoxExcel  
#98 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:56:57 PM(UTC)
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He didn't expect the outpouring???
Come on....does ANYONE believe that?
Each time he retired, you'd think the world was coming to an end! He got all the "sports" talking heads fawning over him, front page on all the magazines. Heck, magazines just about HIM.
He knows what he's doing.
Getting a big fat raise, and all the publicity he could want.
he's NOT stupid.


He never said he didn't expect the outpouring, so I don't even know why we're even talking about it. The only way we know is if Jay Glazer went into Favre's mind like Inception and figured out what he was thinking or not thinking.

I am getting so sick of all these reports. For some reason with Favre, any shred of journalistic pride is thrown out. I'm pretty sure this entire Text-gate thing started from a TWEET by some Minnesota journalist. Remember the "schism"? Remember Ed Werder's reports last year? Its stupid. These reporters publish based on hearsay, then cover their bums. "Yes, schism but if they win, the players will be fine". What?
RedSoxExcel  
#99 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:06:08 PM(UTC)
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If all these texts happened (and I don't understand why anyone cares), why doesn't one of these reporters look at one and post what it said? I'm sure Favre didn't send personal messages to every single person, they were likely a mass message, so its not like the person is going to be "outted".

I am so confused about this whole thing. On the first day, the story got reported, Favre did not say anything. So if these players did receive these texts, why wouldn't the ones that did, just say something? Why would Longwell, Allen, Hutchinson, Peterson, etc. all lie.

And what is Favre's motivation for lying, or what is Longwell's motivation for lying. I am dumbfounded about just how much the media and the public cares about Favre. Texts that apprently happened but no one saw then caused ESPN to have a Favre special and caused NFL network to have a Favre special, every news outlet in North America picking it up and columnists poking at Favre for being selfish, etc. ALL from texts that these reporters havn't even seen?!


Visanthe Shiancoe did say it !!!

and in Jay's article he said this

Quote:
In the end, will Favre play? Absolutely, unless his ankle will put him in harm's way this year. Do I feel Favre felt he was done last week? No doubt, more so now that I've seen and heard the evidence.


To me he talked to the players and was told what the texts said..

but no one believes it cuz names are not put out


That explanation still doesn't answer my question. Favre started texting all these teammates on Monday night. The only way this all makes sense is if the Vikings organization figured out who Favre texted and then called them up immediately and banned them from talking about a freakin TEXT message. In this day and age, not ONE teammate that received the text told the truth (Shaincoe said he did not receive the text). All of those guys lied? For what?

I don't even care either way but why does anyone care? Lets say Favre did text all these people and say "I'm retired" on Monday night, then all these players lied on Tuesday and then Favre lied about sending the text on Wednesday, etc. - WHY do we care? All that matters is, is he under center against the Packers? If not, we have a better chance of winning.

But why so much fuss about these apparent texts? If Jay Glazer has seen them, why doesn't he just post what they said, I don't get how that reveals the source.

We're talking about "texts" y'all. This really was worth an ESPN Favre Special, an NFL Network Favre Special, every columnist in the country reacting, every news outlet publishing an article, etc? Based on a TWEET and anonymous sources "inside the Vikings organization"?! Is this what journalism has reached?

Maybe its all true and Favre also sent weird pictures to the Jets cheerleader but shouldn't journalists have more proof in order to go so NUTS. On Tuesday, it was like Favre had filed his retirement papers and was eligible for the Hall of Fame. But on Wednesday morning he's working at the High School and rehabbing his ankle.
RedSoxExcel  
#100 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:09:32 PM(UTC)
Lets say Favre comes out and says I'm retired, then lets get excited and go nuts (and even then, why believe him with his history). But until then, why is everyone chasing around a story based on a Tweet and Text Messages.

Either the Vikings are like the CIA and able to cover up stories very well or this whole thing is blown out of proportion. May be he just texted teammates and said he's leaning toward retirement. Etiher way, WHO CARES UNTIL HE OR THE VIKINGS SAY SOMETHING.
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