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Offline TheEngineer  
#16 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:55:57 PM(UTC)
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He might get a sack or two, but 5? Pure arrogance. Why do people with such poor attitudes get several million dollars per year to trash talk their heads off?


To be honest, I haven't see or heard this "quote" anywhere else except for the original poster. I am starting to doubt it. He does talk a lot of smack, but that is one that I haven't seen. Even if he did say it, it is just that, smack. There is a difference between trash talking and honest expectations.

Also, keep in mind that it is not impossible by any means. Osi Umenyiora had 6 against the Eagles just last season. But I agree that we will more likely see one or two.

I am curious as to the "poor attitude" comment though. Why do you think that Allen has a poor attitude?


In regards to your comment about Umenyiora, I believe he was facing a rookie backup who unfortunately was nothing more than a minor inconvenience to Osi. Clifton is going to be a far harder body to get around.

As for your question, mostly it stems from Jared Allen's lack of exemplary off the field behaviour (e.g. his drink driving), and you can really compare how he approaches the game and life, compared to say, Aaron Kampman (who was out in tornado ravanged country helping where he could). As a well known athlete, he *should* be held to a higher standard than anybody else precisely because so many people look up to him and envy his ability. He gets paid an exorbitant amount for really what amounts to running around a park, chasing people. Hell, I've done that since I was 5. But nobody paid me to do it. Maybe I'm just bitter because I just spend the last 3 hours applying to companies for work, in what we call the real world :D.
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Offline stevegb  
#17 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:01:44 PM(UTC)
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He might get a sack or two, but 5? Pure arrogance. Why do people with such poor attitudes get several million dollars per year to trash talk their heads off?


I think hes just doing it to make more a show of it. Anthony mundine does it to make more people watch him and to add a bit of drama to the game.
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Offline Packnic  
#18 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:14:04 PM(UTC)
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I dont understand why any player in the national football league would want to openly talk smack anyway.

every team in this league is filled with amazing athletes who sometimes lack one thing... motivation. To go out and freely give motivation to your opponents is pretty silly in my opinion.

For instance. We all know that Jared Allen is trying to hype himself up for the game. Having Arods picture in his locker keeps Jareds focus on beating the Packers. which is pretty motivating in itself for Jared apparently. Now say Arod was giving some beat writers something to talk about at his locker and said, " Jared Who? that guys a drunk chump, and won't even lay a hand on me. I am not worried about him in the slightest. He needs to worry about staying sober for five minutes instead of sacking me" Don't you think Jared Allens motivation just went from crazy obsessed to down right murderous insanity.


I just think its stupid of Allen. If you're banging some guys girlfriend, he probably already wants to kill you. Why put a full page picture of you banging her in the Sunday newspaper?
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Offline pack_in_black  
#19 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:30:49 PM(UTC)
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Is it a slightly out-of-focus picture taken from a group of bushes way off but with a telescoping lens that shows Aaron in his living room with his shirt off? Cause that would be creepy.


And how can JA get any sacks when he shows up to the game wasted? Cause he's, ya know, an alcoholic, so he'll def be drunk.
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Offline Pack93z  
#20 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:40:08 PM(UTC)
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Personally, I could give two pinches less what Jared Allen lips off about before the game, actually I hope he ratchets it up a bit and provides even a little more focus for some of our players.

Hopefully, it would be so outlandish that he draws some of the media attention that way.. then Cliffy can show up on that Monday night and silence him on the field.

Never was one for much of the smack talking.. although it generally was paid back at some point between the whistles..
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline NodakPaul  
#21 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:03:20 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Is it a slightly out-of-focus picture taken from a group of bushes way off but with a telescoping lens that shows Aaron in his living room with his shirt off? Cause that would be creepy.


And how can JA get any sacks when he shows up to the game wasted? Cause he's, ya know, an alcoholic, so he'll def be drunk.


You realize that Allen doesn't drink anymore, right? If the Packers never had any recovering alcoholics on their team, then maybe those digs would stick. But people who live in glass houses...
"There's the snap, Rodgers with a quick drop - in trouble! AND SACKED BY ALLEN! The ball is lose, the ball is lose, and recovered by Kevin Williams! And that's the ball game! Childress and the Vikings FINALLY beat the Packers!"
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Offline Cheesey  
#22 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:08:50 PM(UTC)
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I wonder if he looks at the picture while he pulls an "Ernest Borgnine???"
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Offline NodakPaul  
#23 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:11:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post

As for your question, mostly it stems from Jared Allen's lack of exemplary off the field behaviour (e.g. his drink driving), and you can really compare how he approaches the game and life, compared to say, Aaron Kampman (who was out in tornado ravanged country helping where he could). As a well known athlete, he *should* be held to a higher standard than anybody else precisely because so many people look up to him and envy his ability. He gets paid an exorbitant amount for really what amounts to running around a park, chasing people. Hell, I've done that since I was 5. But nobody paid me to do it. Maybe I'm just bitter because I just spend the last 3 hours applying to companies for work, in what we call the real world :D.


I like how you pick and choose examples to work with. You mention Kampman's work in tornado ravaged country, but conveniently don't talk about Allen helping out in flood ravaged Iowa, or in Hugo after the tornado destroyed a large neighborhood. You overlook Allen flying to Moorhead to promote youth sports. You also forgot all of the time and money he has donated to the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation. He even has a special program set aside to raise money for the foundation, called Sack Diabetes.

He has made mistakes, to be sure. It took a couple of days in jail for him to admit that he was an alcoholic, and has been sober ever since (going on two years sober for him in case you are curious). One thing that I like about him is that he has always been open with the media regarding his arrests and suspensions. He takes full responsibility, never tries to blame it on someone else (i.e. Cedric Benson). That speaks volumes IMHO.
"There's the snap, Rodgers with a quick drop - in trouble! AND SACKED BY ALLEN! The ball is lose, the ball is lose, and recovered by Kevin Williams! And that's the ball game! Childress and the Vikings FINALLY beat the Packers!"
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Offline NodakPaul  
#24 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:12:59 PM(UTC)
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BTW, Mike Harmon has picked Allen to lead the NFL in sacks again this year.
http://msn.foxsports.com/fantasy/story/8451088


He might, but Aaron Rodgers won't be a victim. However, I can see him crushing Kyle Orton and Kitna multiple times.

Wanna make a bet that Allen doesn't sack Rodgers? Some sort of forum bet, where your avatar wears a tutu or something. Hmm, this bet is getting sexy.


Not even one sack on Rodgers? OK, I am all about that bet!
"There's the snap, Rodgers with a quick drop - in trouble! AND SACKED BY ALLEN! The ball is lose, the ball is lose, and recovered by Kevin Williams! And that's the ball game! Childress and the Vikings FINALLY beat the Packers!"
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Offline pack_in_black  
#25 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:18:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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Is it a slightly out-of-focus picture taken from a group of bushes way off but with a telescoping lens that shows Aaron in his living room with his shirt off? Cause that would be creepy.


And how can JA get any sacks when he shows up to the game wasted? Cause he's, ya know, an alcoholic, so he'll def be drunk.


You realize that Allen doesn't drink anymore, right? If the Packers never had any recovering alcoholics on their team, then maybe those digs would stick. But people who live in glass houses...



I know, Nodak. That comment was tongue-in-cheek. I should've said something about abusing pain pills, woulda been more obvious I guess, albeit not at all relevant to J A.






But the only reason it'd be creepy if that was the pic in his locker is because I haven't provided any prints from my personal collection to anyone, so how Allen would've gotten his purple mitts on my work is beyond me...
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Offline NodakPaul  
#26 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:22:40 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Is it a slightly out-of-focus picture taken from a group of bushes way off but with a telescoping lens that shows Aaron in his living room with his shirt off? Cause that would be creepy.


And how can JA get any sacks when he shows up to the game wasted? Cause he's, ya know, an alcoholic, so he'll def be drunk.


You realize that Allen doesn't drink anymore, right? If the Packers never had any recovering alcoholics on their team, then maybe those digs would stick. But people who live in glass houses...



I know, Nodak. That comment was tongue-in-cheek. I should've said something about abusing pain pills, woulda been more obvious I guess, albeit not at all relevant to J A.






But the only reason it'd be creepy if that was the pic in his locker is because I haven't provided any prints from my personal collection to anyone, so how Allen would've gotten his purple mitts on my work is beyond me...


LOL> Sorry, I read through your post quickly and didn't pick up on the sarcasm. My Bad! :)
"There's the snap, Rodgers with a quick drop - in trouble! AND SACKED BY ALLEN! The ball is lose, the ball is lose, and recovered by Kevin Williams! And that's the ball game! Childress and the Vikings FINALLY beat the Packers!"
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Offline subin  
#27 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:39:52 PM(UTC)
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Does he have a bottle of KY Jelly and some tissues in there as well?
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Offline porky88  
#28 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 4:56:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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He might get a sack or two, but 5? Pure arrogance. Why do people with such poor attitudes get several million dollars per year to trash talk their heads off?


To be honest, I haven't see or heard this "quote" anywhere else except for the original poster. I am starting to doubt it. He does talk a lot of smack, but that is one that I haven't seen. Even if he did say it, it is just that, smack. There is a difference between trash talking and honest expectations.

Also, keep in mind that it is not impossible by any means. Osi Umenyiora had 6 against the Eagles just last season. But I agree that we will more likely see one or two.

I am curious as to the "poor attitude" comment though. Why do you think that Allen has a poor attitude?


I don't think it's out of the question Allen can get a sack or two on Rodgers but I don't doubt he said this. Either way, the Vikings are talking a lot of smack for a team that the last time they played the Packers, loss the game 34-0.
Offline GreenBlood  
#29 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:11:14 PM(UTC)
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I'll bet you anything Kampman matches him sack for sack, and that's WITHOUT opening his mouth and saying anything stupid.
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Offline Pack93z  
#30 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:16:22 PM(UTC)
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I'll bet you anything Kampman matches him sack for sack, and that's WITHOUT opening his mouth and saying anything stupid.


Well done.. welcome to the site.. head up to the top and start a intro thread..

+1
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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