Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
12 Pages«<101112
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline Pack93z  
#111 Posted : Monday, October 20, 2008 3:11:20 PM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Bronze: 2012

United States
Joined: 3/16/2007(UTC)
Location: North Central Wisconsin
Applause Given: 437
Applause Received: 1,232
" said: Go to Quoted Post
OK,

HOw about this?

IF you could have a top 5 Offense or Top 5 Defense but your team was going to be mediocre(10~20) on the other side of the ball... Which would you rather have, Based on the stats that was provided by Zombieslayer???


Defense again.. without question.

A dominate defense will help your offense more than the other way around. To control a game you have to have a defense that can get itself off the field. If your defense blows, your offense with have the rhythm of the game dictated to it.. Every possess is vital..

With a defense, you will have two important things going for you..

1) More cracks at the offensive side of the ball.. which is normally a good thing unless you are turnover happy.

2) You can almost always slow the progression of the game down.. keeping whatever pathetic form of an offense in the game.

To be a successful football team you want to control the pace and speed of the game.. I believe it easier to due that with a jarring defense than a highlight reel of an offense.. look no further than the Jekyll and Hyde teams of the Bengals of this decade.. lots of offense.. but never went anywhere.

I will build defense before offense every single time, if I can't do both concurrently.
Offline obi1  
#112 Posted : Monday, October 20, 2008 3:29:42 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
" said: Go to Quoted Post
" said: Go to Quoted Post
OK,

HOw about this?

IF you could have a top 5 Offense or Top 5 Defense but your team was going to be mediocre(10~20) on the other side of the ball... Which would you rather have, Based on the stats that was provided by Zombieslayer???


I'd still take the O because the analysis on another site showed that statiscally top offenses are much greater than the average offense than top defenses are greater than average defenses. Essentially, that says it's easier for a defense to be better than average than for an offense to be better than average. Of course, I might be biased towards the Big O because I'm still an Oscar Robertson fan.


YEP, I gave up basketball after Big O, Bobby D, Lew Alcindor(Abdul-Jabbar), finished with the Bucks...

Though I loved watching the Bucks play, Basketball was NOT my sport...
However, I got to meet Jon McGlocklin on a few occasions... NICE Guy!


I think the Packer's case, their offense seems to be clicking now. But, as it showed on sunday, their defense needs to play well for them to be the kind of team that dominated the opposition kind of like last year...

And IF you look at the stats that Zombie put up, there are teams that won the SB with a Mediocre (10th~20th) offense but until the last 2 years, NONE that did it with a Mediocre defense.
Offline zombieslayer  
#113 Posted : Monday, October 20, 2008 5:39:55 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Location: San Francisco
Applause Given: 778
Applause Received: 495
" said: Go to Quoted Post


Defense again.. without question.

A dominate defense will help your offense more than the other way around. To control a game you have to have a defense that can get itself off the field. If your defense blows, your offense with have the rhythm of the game dictated to it.. Every possess is vital..

With a defense, you will have two important things going for you..

1) More cracks at the offensive side of the ball.. which is normally a good thing unless you are turnover happy.

2) You can almost always slow the progression of the game down.. keeping whatever pathetic form of an offense in the game.

To be a successful football team you want to control the pace and speed of the game.. I believe it easier to due that with a jarring defense than a highlight reel of an offense.. look no further than the Jekyll and Hyde teams of the Bengals of this decade.. lots of offense.. but never went anywhere.

I will build defense before offense every single time, if I can't do both concurrently.


Pack - This win against the Colts showed that an O can suck the life out of an opponent. Happened to us in '97. Remember how demoralized we looked because we couldn't tackle that Bronco RB? Their little OL was pushing our big DL around all day, and by the end of the game, our D looked dead.

Quote:
The Packers' first five drives went 13, 8, 11, 10 and 12 plays, and Green Bay had a season-best 19 first downs in the first half.


This is a HUGE reason why we beat the Colts. Look at them in the 2nd half. They looked desperate. Our D was loving their acts of desperation, especially Collins and Rouse.
Offline packersfan101101  
#114 Posted : Sunday, November 2, 2008 11:56:59 PM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
i would attempt to create a solid running game and be in the top 5 offenses because of that.. running the ball is underrated
Offline Zero2Cool  
#115 Posted : Friday, October 19, 2012 5:39:03 PM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2016ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,499
Applause Received: 4,042
I'd aim for top five in points allowed an offensive 60/40 pass/run ratio and stomp the league.
thanks Post received 1 applause.
nerdmann on 10/19/2012(UTC)
Offline PackerTraxx  
#116 Posted : Saturday, October 20, 2012 1:06:11 PM(UTC)
Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 8/13/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 139
Applause Received: 237
I would take the top 5 offense. I think the defense can be built quicker.
Offline Akexpat  
#117 Posted : Sunday, October 21, 2012 8:14:39 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Turkey
Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Applause Received: 12
not mine but:
“There is no room for second place. There is only one place in my game and that is first place. I have finished second twice in my time at Green Bay and I never want to finish second again.”

Beat them down with smash mouth defense, and then humiliate them with high flying offense.
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
12 Pages«<101112
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
uffda udfa (7h) : Sit Davante if he has a bad ankle. We remember 2015.
uffda udfa (7h) : Davante is not going to practice until SAT at earliest.
uffda udfa (7h) : Davante and Jordy may be inactive at ATL.
Smokey (8h) : ROFL !!
Cheesey (8h) : The Packers SMOKED the COWBOYS!!!LOL!
Smokey (8h) : Ever Smoke a Turkey, it takes lots of rolling papers. LOL
Smokey (8h) : Thanks Cheesey. LOL
Cheesey (8h) : Smokey, it was chicken gizzards (and hearts)!
Cheesey (8h) : So let's just start by saying, I love you!
Zero2Cool (8h) : Great, Geronimo Allison is on the injury report.
Zero2Cool (9h) : Most irritating tweets/tweet starters: 1) This >>> 2) Yep, ...3) There it is.... 4) Not good 5) XX doing XX things 6) Because xxx
Zero2Cool (13h) : Belichick when asked to discuss the importance of having the home crowd behind them: “I don’t know. Go ask Dallas and Kansas City.” …Oof.
Smokey (14h) : BRAVO, ZERO !
Zero2Cool (14h) : Something to watch: Last time both road teams won the Conference title games? 2012.. when New England and Atlanta hosted.
Zero2Cool (14h) : When Ty Montgomery is contacted within 1 yard of the LOS, he averages 4.5 YPC, best for RBs. Atlanta allowed 2.0 YPC, 4th worst for defenses
Zero2Cool (16h) : ProFootballFocus says Packers have 7th best front seven. Falcons 24th.
uffda udfa (16h) : *you're
uffda udfa (16h) : Tell me how to win your heart for I haven't got a clue.
uffda udfa (16h) : Is it me your looking for?
Smokey (17h) : Hello ?
Smokey (18h) : WHAT HAPPENED WITH "CRIXUS", OUR NEWEST MEMBER ?
uffda udfa (22h) : WELCOME Rick12...wonder what the 12 is for? :)
uffda udfa (22h) : The former per Mike Silver of NFLN
uffda udfa (22h) : Falcons OC, Kyle Shanahan "almost certain" to take Niners job. That's a terrible distraction for them.
Smokey (22h) : WELCOME to the forum crixus.
Smokey (18-Jan) : Coffee or Hot Chocolate ?
Smokey (18-Jan) : French Toast or Pancakes ?
Smokey (18-Jan) : Sausage or Bacon ?
Zero2Cool (17-Jan) : Falcons have officially placed DL Adrian Clayborn on IR
Zero2Cool (17-Jan) : Why? What's the difference? Can you cook same meals with one?
hardrocker950 (17-Jan) : Get a pressure cooker and your crock pot will collect dust lol
Zero2Cool (17-Jan) : Bill Vinovich is our ref. You might remember him from 4th and 26.
Smokey (17-Jan) : They were chicken livers, and they are fabulous . LOL
uffda udfa (17-Jan) : Not if Matt Ryan puts up a 40 passer rating. :) The last two were unfavorable conditions. This is dome time.
Cheesey (17-Jan) : Smokey, went to fire up the crock pot to slow cook some chicken gizzards, it burned out!
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2016 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 3:25 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 7:30 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
now / Green Bay Packers Talk / Smokey

8m / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

15m / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

1h / Football Familiarity / Smokey

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Smokey

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / sschind

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / nerdmann

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

5h / Fantasy Sports Talk / hardrocker950

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey

9h / Community Welcome! / wpr

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / DoddPower

9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa


Packers Headlines