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Offline PackerTraxx  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:08:45 PM(UTC)
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When Ted Thompson drafted Harrell he had the chance to trade down to Clevland's second, which wasn't too much lower, and then pick up Clevland's first this year. Harell is a bust so far, we may have been able to get him with that second rd pick, and we could have gotten Rashard Mendenhall(or whoever) this year's with the first. But that's all hindsight.

What seems to contradict TT's value of drafts choice is that he didn't make the trade to pick up an extra pick that was also a high pick. Especially being in a building mode.

I wish we would have made that trade. What really hurts is the Cowgirls did. This has been on my mind since then and I'm just curious what others would have done. What do you think?
Offline longtimefan  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:11:12 PM(UTC)
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Denver was going to jump on harrell ( they picked 17th and Packers picked 16th ) and I have a feeling Ted Thompson knew that

You do what you needed to do AT THE TIME...

now does it look stupid? Possibly...

But at the time he was a projected top ten pick.....He had an injury that should have been a non issue after a few months.

No one knew he would injury him self this past year playing Wii.
Offline dd80forever  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:13:06 PM(UTC)
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Well if you look at Harrell's career thus far anything would have been better. I don't know if we should have made any trade but I do know I thought it was a reach when it happened. I just wish we would have gone with another player
Offline brnt247  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:14:01 PM(UTC)
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You're going to get busts in the NFL, it's just how any draft works. You can't really complain about it because it really is a crap shoot. You don't know which players will pan out and which will fall on their face. The idea of drafting Harrell was a very good one, we wanted some young depth in the interior defensive line and we knew that we would lose some in free agency later that year. They were hoping Harrell would build his way up last season and be ready to kick it in to gear this season but it hasn't worked out well. You win some, you lose some.
Offline bozz_2006  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:20:42 PM(UTC)
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oh well
Offline Pack93z  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:21:44 PM(UTC)
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One season doesn't make or break a player.. up until Harrell hurt himself in the weight room.. reports were favorable that he was progressing nicely.. to this point, yes it doesn't look great.. but cut the kid a little slack.

On the trade.. yes it seemed a little out of character for Ted not to pull the trigger on the deal with Cleveland.. but that is where I think they had enough value in Harrell to pull the trigger on him.. we gotta let this play out a bit longer.. in terms of a little Texas Hold'em.. we only have three cards on the table right now.. I'll wait for the turn and river cards before I throw my hand away.
Offline TheEngineer  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:22:36 PM(UTC)
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You're going to get busts in the NFL, it's just how any draft works. You can't really complain about it because it really is a crap shoot. You don't know which players will pan out and which will fall on their face. The idea of drafting Harrell was a very good one, we wanted some young depth in the interior defensive line and we knew that we would lose some in free agency later that year. They were hoping Harrell would build his way up last season and be ready to kick it in to gear this season but it hasn't worked out well. You win some, you lose some.


Great response. Basically how I feel.
Offline El3ment12  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:29:11 PM(UTC)
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I don't remember ever hearing he could have been a top round pick. I heard LATE second round..
Offline Pack93z  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:33:29 PM(UTC)
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Many like this.. injury brought his stock down.. otherwise alot of the scouting sites had him in the top 15.. roll the bones type pick on the kid a little cause of injury.. but not lacking talent.

http://www.fftoolbox.com...lay.cfm?Prospect_ID=1188

Justin Harrell Scouting Report
Position: DT
School & Year/Status: Tennessee - Drafted
Height & Weight: 6'5 - 305 lbs.
Drafted 1.16 by GB

2007 NFL Draft Prospect - Scouting Report
Harrell's 2006 campaign at Tennessee was derailed just three games into the season by a ruptured biceps tendon, but his stock has been on a steady climb since the end of the season. Scouts love his toughness, as exemplified by the fact that after he ruptured the tendon against Air Force, he returned to the game and even played the next week against Florida. Harrell also benched a solid 31 reps at 225 pounds at his Pro Day on March 22. The 6-5, 305-pound defensive tackle is a beast against the run, but he does need to improve on rushing the quarterback. He does, however, have the strength to overpower offensive lineman and disrupt QBs by collapsing the pocket. Durability questions naturally surround him, as Harrell also missed time in 2003 and 2004. Still, Harrell is the third best defensive tackle in this draft class and he figures to come off the board late in round one or early in round two.
Offline walleye  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:37:12 PM(UTC)
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I say give him time he WILL come around in my Opionion!
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