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Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:56:47 PM(UTC)
As most of you know, this site started out as a hobby of mine.

I made many tweaks, changes, "enhancements" and what have you to the core code. That is not bad, that is a good thing. What is bad, I did not document my changes, which is a supreme fail for any programmer. I figured "I break it, no biggie, I upload the core again and start again". It was fun.

I think now if I were to just wipe it all away, some of you might be upset. I know if I was you, I would be. One of the things I aim for is providing a stable platform/media for those who choose to use it.


The CMS core developers have been long at work improving security, response time, modules, etc in the "dark" (for lack of better term). They've released a "silent" update, while working on a publicly known major release.

Software typically is released in minor and major releases. 1.0 to 1.1 is minor, 1.1 to 2.0 is major.

We're on 9.2, but they're working on 10.0 currently. The latest core is 9.3.

I'm going to set up a mirror site using that core and gradually prepare it for upgrading to 10.0 when it's released.


Why might you care?
As has been one of my goals is to keep members informed of the sites direction as much as I possibly can. Also, this is a warning, I will make mistakes and I will screw something up. That's inevitable. BUT, if you navigate to a page and it fails or you hit PH.com and it fails ... it's just me screwing something up and rest assured, it's being worked on.




This also means I've decided to stick with PHP front end with MySQL as the backend instead of ASP/MVC with SQL Server. Reason is, there's just too many positives to what we've got here already to re-invent the wheel. Instead, I'm going to systematically force myself to learn PHP more efficiently.


A complete site rebuild is necessary to procure new features into the site effectively. My first goal is develop a method of creating and maintain code level changes and effects.

Some might remember the NFL Picks feature that was worked on. It was completed, but not to my satisfactory because of the lack of knowledge of other changes that I wanted to incorporate.

I want to build new features, but it's hard when you don't know what you're breaking. With documentation of the changes, new features will be more likely to be added and implemented properly.

A few things I want?
I'd like to be able to "Like" or "Dislike" posts (sorta like Facebook)
Add sarcasm tags on single click.
Incorporate NFL Picks
Single tier quoting
Enhance search (Search for "by Jason Wilde", or tag [OFFICAL])


Those are just examples, I have a few more, but I can't do anything with them until the site is rebuilt, intelligently.


There shouldn't be many changes noticeable in the immediate feature, but if you have other ideas, please, post them with detail.
Packers_Finland  
#2 Posted : Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:02:20 PM(UTC)
Thanks for the heads up in advance.

I wouldn't like a like/dislike button. We already got applause buttons. Not to mention that like/dislike buttons are just a cheap replacement for comments, and in the process we might end up losing some really insightful posts.

I like all the other stuff though.
Zero2Cool  
#3 Posted : Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:05:29 PM(UTC)
True, but on a positive, it may help eliminate the turds who quote a post and type nothing but "this". I'd gladly code for 5 hours to get rid of that embarrassing effort of a contribution.
Packers_Finland  
#4 Posted : Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:06:35 PM(UTC)
" said: Go to Quoted Post
True, but on a positive, it may help eliminate the turds who quote a post and type nothing but "this". I'd gladly code for 5 hours to get rid of that embarrassing effort of a contribution.


This.

On a serious note though, you should go all NFL on the "This" guys and start ejecting and suspending people.
Zero2Cool  
#5 Posted : Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:14:41 PM(UTC)
The Like and Dislike can be toggle enabled/disabled in my preferences too.

If you don't wish to have the option to like, or dislike, turn it off.

Or, we can have it enabled to members who exceeded X amount of posts.
Nonstopdrivel  
#6 Posted : Friday, October 22, 2010 12:13:51 AM(UTC)
You can enable single-tier quoting very easily in the administrator's control panel. At least you can in phpBB, and if I understand correctly, the software behind this forum is a fork of phpBB.
Zero2Cool  
#7 Posted : Friday, October 22, 2010 2:06:00 AM(UTC)
" said: Go to Quoted Post
You can enable single-tier quoting very easily in the administrator's control panel. At least you can in phpBB, and if I understand correctly, the software behind this forum is a fork of phpBB.


http://packershome.com/F...ro/viewtopic/t=9188.html
dfosterf  
#8 Posted : Friday, October 22, 2010 12:58:27 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool  
#9 Posted : Friday, November 19, 2010 2:24:08 PM(UTC)
http://demos.telerik.com/mvc/forum/aspnet-ajax/

I like the tree-view to access the categories, then the sections on the side. It'd take some work to make it feasible though. Good thing with that forum is I can tinker with it at work, because it's MVC and it'll be considered a learning project. :)


As I post this, the site is blazing fast. Go figure.
Zero2Cool  
#10 Posted : Friday, November 19, 2010 2:31:47 PM(UTC)
http://mesoboard.com/ another asp.net mvc board software
wpr  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:25:33 PM(UTC)
I am more of a "that" person.

I am surprised Z. I never thought of you as wanting to be "more like FB."
Zero2Cool  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:26:33 PM(UTC)
More like FB?
wpr  
#13 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:30:02 PM(UTC)
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More like FB?


facebook. i didn't think you cared to be compared to facebook.
Zero2Cool  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:33:45 PM(UTC)
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More like FB?


facebook. i didn't think you cared to be compared to facebook.


lol okay I'll rephrase the question. :P

How is more like Facebook, or how is it that I want to be more like Facebook? And in what context?

Facebook is PHP, this site is PHP. I was posting about using ASP.NET MVC, which is 'sortof' like PHP, but a lot different, if that makes sense.
wpr  
#15 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:45:11 PM(UTC)
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" said: Go to Quoted Post
" said: Go to Quoted Post
More like FB?


facebook. i didn't think you cared to be compared to facebook.


lol okay I'll rephrase the question. :P

How is more like Facebook, or how is it that I want to be more like Facebook? And in what context?

Facebook is PHP, this site is PHP. I was posting about using ASP.NET MVC, which is 'sortof' like PHP, but a lot different, if that makes sense.


Kevin you are so far beyond me it is as if you are a jet at 35,000 feet screaming across the sky at 700 mph and I am just strolling across the parking lot worried about stubbing my toe.

I have no idea how the systems are set up or operate.

I was talking only about the cosmetic appearance. You said you are thinking about adding "like" and "dislike" to the 10.0 system. (Something I look forward too.) I was tongue in cheek saying that I didn't think you would like it if members compared what you do to facebook in any way shape of form.

That's the trouble with being a smart @ss. Sometimes I am misconstrued. I didn't intend to get you confused so early in the morning. Just a gentle jab to say, "good morning. Hope you have a wonderful day."
Zero2Cool  
#16 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:25:49 PM(UTC)
o_O, I get it now. Yeah, I'm not good at picking up tone via text. Some are, I simply just fail at it, lol.

I'd like to see who liked what comment rather than an accumulative total. Look at my total for instance. It shouldn't be like that. There's no way I've posted 300+ comments that people "like". A lot of the things I do go vastly unnoticed, which I kind of like it that way. But for those who do write articles, add videos, add off site articles, etc ... I think they should be acknowledged in some fashion too.

Kind of leaking into the Kudos thing. I like the concept, but won't play with it too much until I figure out how to get it working within the forums. As you said, going to ones profile to give them a Kudos, pain in the ass, and heck, deserves a Kudo's of its own.
Nonstopdrivel  
#17 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:38:48 PM(UTC)
Applause points give multiple people the opportunity to express appreciation for a single post. And they're not limited to posts anyway. I've given people Applause points for other contributions before -- or just because I felt like it.
wpr  
#18 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:42:55 PM(UTC)
" said: Go to Quoted Post
Applause points give multiple people the opportunity to express appreciation for a single post. And they're not limited to posts anyway. I've given people Applause points for other contributions before -- or just because I felt like it.


+ one for you. :thumbleft:
Nonstopdrivel  
#19 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:51:48 PM(UTC)
Welcome to the century club, sir. :D
wpr  
#20 Posted : Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:56:34 PM(UTC)
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Welcome to the century club, sir. :D


Thanks :cheers:
Now Zero will take it all away :sad1:
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