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Offline dfosterf  
#51 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 12:51:23 PM(UTC)
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Aaron Rodgers is part of the solution, not part of the problem. Someone said that defenses aren't respecting the long ball because he can't throw it. Well, the defenses may not be respecting the long ball, but it is because Aaron Rodgers has a bad offensive line trying to protect him. No one can convince me that if Aaron Rodgers has time... he would not absolutely torch a defense deep, bad shoulder and all. I see no indication of his injury inhibiting him, and if it is, the NFL better watch out because that would mean he is only going to get better...IF we can block for him, or for that matter, block period. Bench Aaron Rodgers? His mobility is the only thing keeping us at all competitive as an offense. Our linemen are simply not good enough. I will continue my tirade against this line until proven otherwise. The thought of benching Aaron Rodgers is ridiculous. If he gets hurt, Matt Flynn can come in and get his butt creamed, thankyou very much o-line...
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Offline Mazloum  
#52 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 1:33:46 PM(UTC)
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I love that after a loss I am almost guaranteed to find a smorgasbord of idiocy on here.

Thanks for not dissapointing.
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Offline Pack93z  
#53 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 1:49:31 PM(UTC)
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It is...



Ahhhh never mind.. can't win when you are getting killed at the LOS.. and a rookie QB into the meat grinder isn't going to help our push to the playoffs.. if we could attack on the run maybe.. but
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline Zero2Cool  
#54 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 2:01:33 PM(UTC)
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WAIT! I love the idea!

A guy who rode the pine studying the game for three years behind a legend isn't scoring 40 points a game for us so maybe a guy who has never started a game or even been in the NFL for a full season will!

Let's go FLYNN baby!!!



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#55 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 2:52:30 PM(UTC)
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We're one game out of the playoff race, with 7 to go, and people want to throw in the towel? After losing two away games to teams with winning records in the last seconds? What the hell?????


Never did say throw in the towel, said we should give Aaron a few weeks rest to recupe so that should we make the playoffs we have a chance.


If we rest him for one week we lose that week and take our sixth loss of the season. You wanna rest him next week and fall two games behind the Bears with six games to go? If we rest him for two it's over. Let's worry about making the playoffs first, then we can worry about winning a playoff game.
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Offline warhawk  
#56 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 3:36:51 PM(UTC)
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Playing a rookie QB at this point would be dumb. We might as well say the season is over because I cannot see us winning a game with either of the other two QB's in there.

We would be resting Arod for what? The offseason? That's all we would be looking at if they did this. What does this tell the team? Towels in the ring and it's over?

Look, we have lost two very close and very tough football games that we may very well should have won and are still in the North fight with Chicago having lost.

Let's not lose our minds here.
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Offline Packnic  
#57 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 3:47:57 PM(UTC)
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I think we can definitively say that this is the worst idea ever proposed on this site.

one game out of the division lead and we should completely destroy any sense of development in Aaron Rodgers and for that matter Matt Flynn. because putting Flynn behind this line would do nothing but turn him into David Carr Jr.


I'm not making excuses... but like Warhawk said... its two tough losses against pretty tough opponents. But its hardly time to start firing anyone yet, (except maybe Clifton and maybe Campen if you think its time to make a statement).

I guess just take solace in the fact that we are the youngest team in the NFL with a first year starter at QB. It can really only go up from here.
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Offline longtimefan  
#58 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 4:13:24 PM(UTC)
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2005 = bad oline play, bad d play no talent, BF trying to make a play

2008 Aaron Rodgers fault


At least that is what I am understanding from certain posters?
Offline MassPackersFan  
#59 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 4:15:41 PM(UTC)
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Fire McCarthy. Fire Thompson. Bring back Sherman. Offer the Jets our next 5 1st round picks for Favre.

Amirite???

Did I adequately meet the level of psychosis in this thread's title?
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Offline ILikeThePackers39  
#60 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 4:52:25 PM(UTC)
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Pulling Rodgers out at this point almost guarantees no playoffs this year. It's also a definitive statement by the powers that be that they don't have faith in the team's ability to fight and get to the playoffs. Two big reasons not to do that.

Firing someone? While I've been on the record that our D coordinator is sub-standard (I don't know how else to explain the total inability to stop the run or pressure the opposing QB at this point; if we didn't have an amazing secondary we'd have given up talking about the playoffs weeks ago), I don't see how that would do much more than bother the players a little bit at this point.

I think I am ready, however, to see a major shakeup on O-line. College needs to either be out or move out to LT and see what he can do there. Sitton needs to be in the damn games. Babre should get another look-see as well. I just don't think McCarthy has put any fear at all into that unit, in terms of giving them the idea that poor play has negative consequences. If they don't want to block for Rodgers, let 'em go try out for the Jets.
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Offline porky88  
#61 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 5:03:45 PM(UTC)
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If Rodgers is seriously hurt then you sit him when you fall out of contention because you don't want to risk further damage. That doesn't appear to be the situation though.

The Packers are one game out of the NFC North. Anything can happen, although I'm know longer expecting anything. Rodgers needs to play. He needs experience. Whether it be for this year or in the future. Rodgers for the most part has played well this season and has a bright future ahead of him.
Offline twebdonny  
#62 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 8:59:15 PM(UTC)
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If Rodgers is seriously hurt then you sit him when you fall out of contention because you don't want to risk further damage. That doesn't appear to be the situation though.

The Packers are one game out of the NFC North. Anything can happen, although I'm know longer expecting anything. Rodgers needs to play. He needs experience. Whether it be for this year or in the future. Rodgers for the most part has played well this season and has a bright future ahead of him.


I think he is hurt much more than anyone knows. I know, as well as do you all that Aaron will not be benched for Flynn or anyone else. Thought I would raise a bit of all your hackles and it looks like I did. Good luck Aaron, still think you should sit a week or two, guess we will see who was right at the end of this year's run.

DJ
Offline Zero2Cool  
#63 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 9:00:26 PM(UTC)
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You still won't answer my question. Very nice. I'd dodge it too if I had this thread tagged with my name. :)
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Offline twebdonny  
#64 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 9:25:49 PM(UTC)
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When the season ends, no playoff berth, or one and done, you will look back at this thread...

guarandamnteed


DJ


Why?


Is this your question?
If so, then my answer is that this thread spells the reason why the season
has prematurely ended.
See, NO DODGING HERE!


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Offline TheEngineer  
#65 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 10:02:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
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When the season ends, no playoff berth, or one and done, you will look back at this thread...

guarandamnteed


DJ


Why?


Is this your question?
If so, then my answer is that this thread spells the reason why the season
has prematurely ended.
See, NO DODGING HERE!


DJ
Lifetime Packers Fan, Non Kool-Aid Drinker


Listening to your advice would spell the reason why a season will prematurely end.

Rodgers is the better QB, I'm sure you'll agree. But I just don't think he's sufficiently injured, and Flynn able to play at a close enough level, to warrant a switch. With Flynn I think we'd probably lose 2 or 3 more games than if Rodgers had played, and we'd be all but out of the playoffs.
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Offline twebdonny  
#66 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 10:06:17 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
When the season ends, no playoff berth, or one and done, you will look back at this thread...

guarandamnteed


DJ


Why?


Is this your question?
If so, then my answer is that this thread spells the reason why the season
has prematurely ended.
See, NO DODGING HERE!


DJ
Lifetime Packers Fan, Non Kool-Aid Drinker


Listening to your advice would spell the reason why a season will prematurely end.

Rodgers is the better QB, I'm sure you'll agree. But I just don't think he's sufficiently injured, and Flynn able to play at a close enough level, to warrant a switch. With Flynn I think we'd probably lose 2 or 3 more games than if Rodgers had played, and we'd be all but out of the playoffs.


2 weeks of rest would probably be all that is needed...right now that is...

I would rather have a healthy Rodgers going into a playoff game, then someone who may be out for the season after another beat down on a bad wing.
Offline Packnic  
#67 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 10:10:57 PM(UTC)
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dude im pretty sure that a front office that just shelled out a ton of money on a guy...isnt going to force him to start if they don't think he is healthy enough.

The arm obviously isn't issue enough for the FO to gamble all that money on.
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Offline dhazer  
#68 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 10:21:56 PM(UTC)
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Ok folks ready for my thoughts on this.
I know everyone thinks they know what i am going to say because everyone knows what i think of Rodgers.

Well to be totally honest i feel sorry for the kid. Yes i said that. If he is hurt or not it don't make a bit of a difference. I have read every page of this thread and can't believe how some have turned on the kid. The poor kid is not coming out are you fricken serious. If he would be benched or what not that would look bad on Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson and also on Rodgers. The fiasco and decision made this offseason has made the bed Rodgers is stuck with and for that i feel sorry for the kid because if he is hurt he can't come out no matter what.


And if people think i'm being sarcastic then you should have been in chat when i was of the only ones that was saying the kid was going to drive us to a win.
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Offline longtimefan  
#69 Posted : Monday, November 10, 2008 10:45:17 PM(UTC)
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he was tossing 60 yard bombs in warm ups

yeah that tells me his shoulder is hurt
Offline packersfan101101  
#70 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:32:40 AM(UTC)
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Rogers is hurt and is not getting better getting beat down week after week.

Any chance we have of winning a playoff game depends on Rogers being truly healthy.

I think it's time to sit Aaron and play our backups and see what they can, or cannot do.

Backing into the playoffs only to be one and done does not thrill me at all
and that is what is going to happen without a healthy Rogers. Right now he cannot throw downfield and teams are well aware of this and continue gunning for him.

Whatcha think kidz?

DJ


that may be the stupidist thing ive ever heard
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#71 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:07:24 AM(UTC)
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When the season ends, no playoff berth, or one and done, you will look back at this thread...

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DJ


Why?


Is this your question?
If so, then my answer is that this thread spells the reason why the season
has prematurely ended.
See, NO DODGING HERE!


DJ
Lifetime Packers Fan, Non Kool-Aid Drinker


Listening to your advice would spell the reason why a season will prematurely end.

Rodgers is the better QB, I'm sure you'll agree. But I just don't think he's sufficiently injured, and Flynn able to play at a close enough level, to warrant a switch. With Flynn I think we'd probably lose 2 or 3 more games than if Rodgers had played, and we'd be all but out of the playoffs.


2 weeks of rest would probably be all that is needed...right now that is...

I would rather have a healthy Rodgers going into a playoff game, then someone who may be out for the season after another beat down on a bad wing.


DJ-Do you actually think the Packers stand much of a chance of beating the Bears or Saints with Flynn at quarterback? With the running game we've shown so far this year? I don't--I think we'd lose both and our record would be 4-7. Your 'healthy Rodgers going into a playoff game" is senseless since 4-7 isn't going to get you into the playoffs.
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Offline alldaybaby  
#72 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2008 10:43:11 AM(UTC)
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don't worry guys you play the saints in a couple of weeks and you all start singing his praises again, their pass defense is horrible, why is it so hard to understand , rodgers is a average QB behind a average line , the same line that favre made look very good , same goes to your RB a average guy that favre made look very good , find another favre then you'll be very good again , good luck in trying to find one though
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#73 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:37:12 AM(UTC)
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if rodgers had thrown some int's in this game & in several others on complete bonehead passes, i'd understand the hate but...since that didn't happen, i say WTF??

also on the whole "holds the ball too long" deal - the guy already sees a guy coming at him untouched, knows he's gonna get the snot kicked outta him, & is STILL trying to complete decent passes - i don't think that's holding onto the ball too long, i think that's balls out taking em for the team. he has no time to see the plays develop & yet he's supposed to in a split second, decide to throw the ball away?? then i'm guessing he'd be nailed for throwing the ball away too much. no win situation when you're losing.

but hey - maybe that's just me. i don't give up on players until THEY give up on this team...period!!
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Offline dfosterf  
#74 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:58:48 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
if rodgers had thrown some int's in this game & in several others on complete bonehead passes, i'd understand the hate but...since that didn't happen, i say WTF??

also on the whole "holds the ball too long" deal - the guy already sees a guy coming at him untouched, knows he's gonna get the snot kicked outta him, & is STILL trying to complete decent passes - i don't think that's holding onto the ball too long, i think that's balls out taking em for the team. he has no time to see the plays develop & yet he's supposed to in a split second, decide to throw the ball away?? then i'm guessing he'd be nailed for throwing the ball away too much. no win situation when you're losing.

but hey - maybe that's just me. i don't give up on players until THEY give up on this team...period!!


You used to be good lookin'. Good post, btw. :thumbleft:
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Offline alldaybaby  
#75 Posted : Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:00:33 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: " Go to Quoted Post
if rodgers had thrown some int's in this game & in several others on complete bonehead passes, i'd understand the hate but...since that didn't happen, i say WTF??

also on the whole "holds the ball too long" deal - the guy already sees a guy coming at him untouched, knows he's gonna get the snot kicked outta him, & is STILL trying to complete decent passes - i don't think that's holding onto the ball too long, i think that's balls out taking em for the team. he has no time to see the plays develop & yet he's supposed to in a split second, decide to throw the ball away?? then i'm guessing he'd be nailed for throwing the ball away too much. no win situation when you're losing.

but hey - maybe that's just me. i don't give up on players until THEY give up on this team...period!!



he threw a couple "bonehead passes" the viking players didn't make it count , otherwise the score may have been alot different, the couple i'm talking about is one that hit wyms on the helmet and deflected into drivers hands , and the one that sapp caught and dropped , i'm sure there were more just can't be bothered trying to think of them
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