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Offline musccy  
#1 Posted : Monday, February 7, 2011 5:19:32 PM(UTC)
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They didn't affect the outcome of the game and I'm not trying to start a horrible officiating thread here, just some curiosities.

Swain Drop: Everyone seemed to agree this wasn't a catch, but what about it wasn't a catch? I used to think 2 feet and a football move = catch, and my take through my green 'n gold glasses saw him twist 180 degrees, get two feet down and move up field before the ball was jostled loose.

Collins' Celebration: This wasn't explained much, but it looked like flags were thrown just as he got to his knees in the back of the endzone. I don't even know what the letter of the law is, but I can assure you that my TD celebration at my apt. was 100 times more exuberant than his! He just pick 6'd and put the Packers up 14 in the Super Bowl, give him some leeway.
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#2 Posted : Monday, February 7, 2011 5:24:02 PM(UTC)
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The commentators were all saying they thought the Swain drop was a catch, and the more I watched the replays, the more I was inclined to agree with them. I think it should have been ruled a fumble recovered by Jennings.

And can anyone explain to me why the NFL sees a substantive difference between kneeling on one knee versus kneeling on two knees in the end zone? Both can be expressions of prayer or exultation. It makes no sense.
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Offline musccy  
#3 Posted : Monday, February 7, 2011 5:25:16 PM(UTC)
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The commentators were all saying they thought the Swain drop was a catch, and the more I watched the replays, the more I was inclined to agree with them. I think it should have been ruled a fumble recovered by Jennings.


Aikman, Periera (sp?) and Buck all felt it was a drop, as did ESPN after the game.
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#4 Posted : Monday, February 7, 2011 5:26:50 PM(UTC)
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I was watching ESPN America. Different set of commentators.
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Offline Pack93z  
#5 Posted : Monday, February 7, 2011 5:28:23 PM(UTC)
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The commentators were all saying they thought the Swain drop was a catch, and the more I watched the replays, the more I was inclined to agree with them. I think it should have been ruled a fumble recovered by Jennings.


Don't know which broadcast you watched.. but they were in the camp it wasn't a catch. *edit.. your above response posted during my reply.

I am sorry.. this is one of the areas the NFL needs to scrub this season.. defining a catch and taking out this nonsense of a football move in its definition.

By the rules established today.. it is a judgment what a football move is.

IMO.. two feet down with established possession is a catch.

IMO.. Swain never effectively established possession cleanly.. and they ruled it correctly regardless of the silly and pathetic football move.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline El3ment12  
#6 Posted : Monday, February 7, 2011 5:29:32 PM(UTC)
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Well It was "bang, bang" or something. The officiating head or whatever said you should judge it real time, not in slow motion. Makes sense I guess.

And the Collins celebration was stupid to call. It gave the steelers good feild position. If we lost I would have been super pissed. Oh, and the facemask that wasn't a facemask!!!!!

It's cool though we won :)
Offline Pack93z  
#7 Posted : Monday, February 7, 2011 5:31:33 PM(UTC)
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On Collins.. he ran all the way across the endzone and was probably move for the delay (and the group) than the act itself.

Commonly players take knees.. but I think it was the circumstances in which Collins did it.

No Fun League is still in effect even on the big stage.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline musccy  
#8 Posted : Monday, February 7, 2011 5:37:27 PM(UTC)
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the facemask WAS a horrible call...but again, I'm in no way saying that affected the outcome. There were probably a few PIs the Packers could have been called for in the first half, so it all came out in the laundry, I'm bringing this up to question the RULES rather than the refs.
Offline TOPackerFan  
#9 Posted : Monday, February 7, 2011 5:40:33 PM(UTC)
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You can't "go to the ground" when celebrating a TD, with the exception being you're allowed to kneel in prayer. Stupid rule, but the right call.

I thought Swain was a catch, but that's probably only because Jennings recovered. If the Steelers had recovered, I'd have been screaming no football move therfore no catch.
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Offline longtimefan  
#10 Posted : Monday, February 7, 2011 5:40:48 PM(UTC)
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Cant use ground in celebration

Recall the huge issue with Jared Allen and his rope tie celebration after a sack?

Was told cant use a knee on the ground

Stupid as hell buts a rule
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