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Offline nerdmann  
#1 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2011 9:55:31 PM(UTC)
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Im curious to the reaction from Packers fans after Team President Mark Murphy stated that the club would eventually retire Brett Favres number. Three MVPs, the Super Bowl win, etc, etc.

But we all know it comes with a slight catch.

The retirement press conference followed by the one season with the Jets and the last two in Minnesota with the Vikings. And we can all agree that playing across the state border for Brad Childress is the most revengeful move Favre could have pulled as a player.

We dont need to dive into the back story here, the reason Favre originally retired or the odd relationship that was formed with the front office and coaching staff in Green Bay once he came back to play football on Sundays again.

However, I have to admit that I still loved watching him play football the last three seasons. Didnt care about the numbers, the wins, etc. In my opinion, he was a special player and provided that unique entertainment value every Sunday.

And it was the same way when I played up in Green Bay with Favre in 2001 and 2002. I was a fan when the offense was on the field and I couldnt sit down when he was under center. You anticipated the unexpected results (both good and bad) with No.4. Thats how he playedand he won a lot of football games in that green and gold uniform.

But what about now, today, as we look at Favre? Retire the number; welcome him back to Green Bay? Pretend the last three years were part of our imagination?

Thats too easy, because it isnt going to happen overnight. I get thatwe all should. This is going to take time. Happens when opinions and beliefs are changed towards a pro athlete. And the off the field situation in New York doesnt help in any way with public opinion towards Favre.

Favre, himself, has to know this. The minute he decided to play football again and seek out his own revenge against the organization was the time this all changed. If there is such a thing as true loyalty in pro sports anymore, Favre crushed that when he went to play for the Jetsand especially the Vikings.

But that still doesnt diminish what he did wearing a Packers uniform. He was a hell of a football player up north and did as much as you could for one organization. Wasnt perfect, and that is not the angle I am taking here. However, he was one of the greatest players of all time in Green Bayand the NFL.

He deserves to see his number retired, but emotions and opinions need time to settle and relax. Favre should have his day when Packers fansand the organizationwant him back. Until then we can keep our own thoughts on what transpired after that day when he broke down in front of the media in Green Bay, telling us he was done.

I have no issue seeing that No.4 retired for good once Packers fans have had time to step back and see how important he was to the franchise. Because he is still one of my favoritesand that wont change.

What do you think? Let me know




My problem with the whole situation is Favre's own hypocrisy. He tries to come off as old school, playing with his heart and all that bullshit. Now he wants to come back and say, "It's just a business?" Please. You can't have it both ways.
If it's just a business then it's just a business. If you want us to revere you as an "old school" kind of guy whose play is based on "heart," then you can't feed us that bullshit about how loyalties don't matter. Period.
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#2 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2011 10:21:29 PM(UTC)
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Where did Brett Favre say him going to other teams was just a business?
Offline Dexter_Sinister  
#3 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2011 11:14:48 PM(UTC)
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I wouldn't offer him forgiveness. If he came to the people of Packer Nation, owned up to his actions and sincerely apologized, then sure.

If he pulls a Pete Rose and apologizes like Bluto after he smashed the guitar. Then not a chance.

Just admitting that the Packers have a good team and will probably will win the super bowl isn't even a start. He can do that and still hate and want to disgrace the organization.

Until he does really apologize, and mean it, he can go pound sand. As far as I am concerned.

That isn't for going to MN, or fake retiring to weasel out of his contract. Or for calling out players for wanting out of their contracts. It is for sticking it to the team by decoding his playbook for the Lions and several other unnamed teams. The sabotage of Rodgers season is such a dishonorable act, I won't look the other way and pretend it didn't happen. Leaving was just being a jerk. The sabotage was disgraceful and I can't respect an honor-less person like that by retiring his jersey.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, May 15, 2011 1:27:16 AM(UTC)
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Favre finished his career by becoming a running joke as a jackass and crybaby.

But it's just good business for the NFL leadership to avoid being vindictive even if it's deserved.

So we'll make nice.
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I wouldn't offer him forgiveness. If he came to the people of Packer Nation, owned up to his actions and sincerely apologized, then sure.

If he pulls a Pete Rose and apologizes like Bluto after he smashed the guitar. Then not a chance.

Just admitting that the Packers have a good team and will probably will win the super bowl isn't even a start. He can do that and still hate and want to disgrace the organization.

Until he does really apologize, and mean it, he can go pound sand. As far as I am concerned.

That isn't for going to MN, or fake retiring to weasel out of his contract. Or for calling out players for wanting out of their contracts. It is for sticking it to the team by decoding his playbook for the Lions and several other unnamed teams. The sabotage of Rodgers season is such a dishonorable act, I won't look the other way and pretend it didn't happen. Leaving was just being a jerk. The sabotage was disgraceful and I can't respect an honor-less person like that by retiring his jersey.


I was where you are now about a year ago. I think they should wait another year a let the current Packers enjoy their championship without interuption.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, May 15, 2011 2:14:01 AM(UTC)
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Favre finished his career by becoming a running joke as a jackass and crybaby.

But it's just good business for the NFL leadership to avoid being vindictive even if it's deserved.

So we'll make nice.


A 5 year "timeout" will ease the hurt feelings by the fans and the parties involved. when he is a first ballot HOFer there will be no reason to withhold the honor of formally retiring his jersey. No one is going to get the #4 between now and then anyway.
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A 5 year "timeout" will ease the hurt feelings by the fans and the parties involved. when he is a first ballot HOFer there will be no reason to withhold the honor of formally retiring his jersey. No one is going to get the #4 between now and then anyway.


Unless, of course, if he decides to go into the HOF as a Viking. Then he should definitely not receive any honors from the Packers and they should issue his #4 to a player as soon as possible.
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A 5 year "timeout" will ease the hurt feelings by the fans and the parties involved. when he is a first ballot HOFer there will be no reason to withhold the honor of formally retiring his jersey. No one is going to get the #4 between now and then anyway.


Unless, of course, if he decides to go into the HOF as a Viking. Then he should definitely not receive any honors from the Packers and they should issue his #4 to a player as soon as possible.


It'll never happen. Brett ... well it will never happen.
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Unless, of course, if he decides to go into the HOF as a Viking. Then he should definitely not receive any honors from the Packers and they should issue his #4 to a player as soon as possible.


I don't believe NFL players go into the Hall of Fame under any team.
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Unless, of course, if he decides to go into the HOF as a Viking. Then he should definitely not receive any honors from the Packers and they should issue his #4 to a player as soon as possible.


I don't believe NFL players go into the Hall of Fame under any team.


Damn, I must be thinking baseball.
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