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Pack93z  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 8:35:33 AM(UTC)
Question.. not issue.. lol.

When the site navigated to the "Under Construction" page.. are you updating and locking the site down?

Or is it a backup routine?

Or something else?

Yes.. Curiosity skinned and killed thy cat.. lol.
Zero2Cool  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 8:45:46 AM(UTC)
I'm back "home" in Colorado now and kind of avoided the site for a good deal of the weekend and while I drove. So yeah it was a surprise to see the site under construction.

I nearly shat myself when I clicked PackersHome and saw UNDER CONSTRUCTION. I thought, dammit Shawn, what you doin ... wait, this is why I didn't pass out any admin. Then thought "dammit kevin what did YOU do!!!". haha

The software has an auto update and it caused the site to be slow for a period while it was downloading it and attempting to install/upgrade. I disabled it and that's how the site is "back".

NEAT HUH!?!?
Pack93z  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 8:52:57 AM(UTC)
Well I noticed it a couple of times over the weekend and I thought to myself.. Kevin enjoy your vacation.. lol.

Hence why I asked the question.. I thought maybe there was a backup routine and maybe the scheduled needed to be adjusted or disabled altogether for a less intrusive method away from taking the site down.

More a technical question on the platform design.
wpr  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:00:09 AM(UTC)
I have been not so patiently waiting all morning. Wondering why you couldn't do this at a reasonable time- say 2-3 in the morning like all the other techies.
Zero2Cool  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:03:24 AM(UTC)
Interesting, did it happen at a specific time that you can recall?
Zero2Cool  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:04:40 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
I have been not so patiently waiting all morning. Wondering why you couldn't do this at a reasonable time- say 2-3 in the morning like all the other techies.



Haha, jerk! :P


I'm going to be setting up a mirror site that (hopefully) Shawn and I will be poking around with prior to making changes to this site.

PackersBeta.com or SilentShouting.com will be the test site.


Pack93z  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:48:37 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Interesting, did it happen at a specific time that you can recall?


I failed to record the times.. as I was scurrying about this weekend involved in about what seemed like a 100 projects.
Pack93z  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:49:56 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post

I'm going to be setting up a mirror site that (hopefully) Shawn and I will be poking around with prior to making changes to this site.

PackersBeta.com or SilentShouting.com will be the test site.




I am in 100% agreement on this approach.. mirrored data included so tests can be ran against similar data(posts).
Zero2Cool  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:51:59 AM(UTC)
And since I still have the tools and data to do another import, that won't be an issue. I could probably just do a copy back of the live DB as well, which would probably be faster.
wpr  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:07:22 AM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Haha, jerk! :P





yes I am.

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Pack93z  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:09:24 AM(UTC)
Note to self.. it has been too damn long since Pack93z has watched "The Jerk".
wpr  
#12 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:12:43 AM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
Note to self.. it has been too damn long since Pack93z has watched "The Jerk".



I don't want to catch you peeking into any of my windows.
Zero2Cool  
#13 Posted : Thursday, June 2, 2011 6:16:21 AM(UTC)
@3:07am the web config was changed to auto upgrade again. Kind of pissing me off.


The mirror site is up too, PackersBeta.com
Zero2Cool  
#14 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2011 7:01:31 AM(UTC)
Quote:
Under Construction

There are occassions where a DotNetNuke site displays the underconstruction page and it is not clear why. There are only three specific cases where the under construction page is displayed

1. The system thinks it needs to perform an installation and the AutoUpgrade setting in web.config is set to false.

2. The system thinks it needs to perform a system upgrade and the AutoUpgrade setting in web.config is set to false.

3. The system gets an error when trying to determine if the database version matches the DotNetNuke assembly version.

In all of these cases the display of the page is triggered by the system having difficulty connecting to the db or because the system actually needs to be upgraded because the database is out of synch with the code.

To correct this issue, you should make sure that the latest version listed in the versions table matches the version of the DotNetNuke.dll. If this is correct then you should verify that the application can connect to the database.
Nonstopdrivel  
#15 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2011 10:34:31 AM(UTC)
Even if those explanations made sense, it still wouldn't explain why it goes down for 8, 10, or even 12 hours. How long can it possibly take for the software to upgrade itself?
Zero2Cool  
#16 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2011 11:18:45 AM(UTC)
Nonstopdrivel said: Go to Quoted Post
Even if those explanations made sense, it still wouldn't explain why it goes down for 8, 10, or even 12 hours. How long can it possibly take for the software to upgrade itself?


I hear you man, I have no damn eff'n clue.
Nonstopdrivel  
#17 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2011 11:31:12 AM(UTC)
And there is no way to turn off auto-updates? That is truly strange. It is really easy to do in phpBB.
Zero2Cool  
#18 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2011 12:00:23 PM(UTC)
Nonstopdrivel said: Go to Quoted Post
And there is no way to turn off auto-updates? That is truly strange. It is really easy to do in phpBB.


I'm not really sure how many times I have to tell you this, but the old software and this current software are not phpBB, so let's drop the comparisons as they are not relevant. ;)


There has to be some way to turn it off. I'm simply failing miserably at figuring it out! That's what has me so ticked. I just can not fathom a website software that's used widely with business could randomly go into "update" mode. I'd suspect many customers/clients would be extremely pissed. Thus, I feel there is a way, I'm just not figuring it out fast enough.
Nonstopdrivel  
#19 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2011 12:51:10 PM(UTC)
I don't know where you got the idea that I thought it is phpBB. If it were, the comparison would have made much sense, would it. :-" My point is that phpBB, for all its limitations, makes a lot of things really easy that seem to be more difficult in other packages.

And yes, that thought has occurred to me repeatedly: If this were a commercial business, customers would go away. There have been a number of posts I didn't make because of the downtime.
Zero2Cool  
#20 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2011 1:12:58 PM(UTC)
Nonstopdrivel said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't know where you got the idea that I thought it is phpBB. If it were, the comparison would have made much sense, would it. :-" My point is that phpBB, for all its limitations, makes a lot of things really easy that seem to be more difficult in other packages.

And yes, that thought has occurred to me repeatedly: If this were a commercial business, customers would go away. There have been a number of posts I didn't make because of the downtime.


I've never said you thought this software, nor the last, were phpBB. I am tired of the comparisons attempted to be drawn between them.

I could name off dozens of software that do not randomly go into Under frickin Construction mode, or do this, or have that, or whatever else. I don't see how naming them helps at all, SINCE this software is NOT one of them.

"Well its easy to turn off in phpBB" has no relevance in this discussion since PH.com will never convert to phpBB (which is forum only, with a select few interactive add-ons) and is not phpBB.



The problem with the site going under construction is mine, because I'm not able to figure out how get it to stop. The last thing I can check is the table that contains the version number and make sure it matches the DLL. If that doesn't work, I have no other options other than kidnapping one of the DNN developers and forcing them to make it stop.
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