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#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 7, 2011 3:12:09 PM(UTC)
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Lay it out there, you won't hurt my feelings because I'm sure you all know the was little to no saving the other site for long term and thus without this site, we'd have nothing.

The site's no where near being done, but none the less, I'm serious when I say I want to know how you all feel about the site. If you love it, hate it, what it needs, what it doesn't need, etc.

I know I have my own personal bitches, I want to hear yours. The majority of mine are in the works of being patched out.

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 7, 2011 4:15:34 PM(UTC)
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So you don't want us doing the separate "Forums > Problem" threads any more?

Anyway, my bitch right now is...

I can't figure out the rules for when the PH logo at the left is greyed out and when it is bright. It seems as if when I read one thread and go back to the index page, all the other unread threads are now greyed out.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:35:38 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Wade Go to Quoted Post
So you don't want us doing the separate "Forums > Problem" threads any more?

Anyway, my bitch right now is...

I can't figure out the rules for when the PH logo at the left is greyed out and when it is bright. It seems as if when I read one thread and go back to the index page, all the other unread threads are now greyed out.


Nope, I'll put them in to categories.

The new post icon stuff is pretty annoying. It's to be fixed in the next release, supposedly.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, June 7, 2011 6:55:34 PM(UTC)
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DarkaneRules wrote:
Hey

the area that is white needs a background that has opacity of a slightly transparent overlay so that it gives the whole page more flavor, but the opacity will make sure it doesn't appear to busy or chaotic

adam


I'm not sure what this means, but I do agree the white is too much. I don't know that I want the site as dark as the previous one. That kind of worn my eyes a little.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, June 7, 2011 7:17:59 PM(UTC)
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more green...
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2011 7:15:33 AM(UTC)
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My Comments.

I'll be working on a dark theme as this one fullfills my moderate goal for a light theme.

I don't like there being two profiles, one for site, one for forums, however, it's a necessary evil. DotNetNuke has its own forums, but they are not mature in development. If DNN 6 has the good forums integrated in its released, we'll look into converting the YAF forums into the DNN flavor. I doubt that will happen since the YAF forums are one of the best out there and their support is really good.

I do not like the new post icon behavior. If you click the forum category and click each thread, the icon works as expected. If you access the forum category via the quick link or the little icon's to the right of the last post user name, they do not behave properly. This is supposed to be fixed, or is fixable. I've seen it on other YAF forums that work as expected.

The forums signature box is not positioned level with the user information box. I don't like that. <-- was just told I'm not the first to bemoan about this and it's fixed in the next release 1.9.5.6

When making/editing a post, sometimes you lose everything. I've started copying everything I post just in case, lol.



I like the flow of the site and how it's structured,
the admin panel is fantastic,
I really like both the thumb up/down feature and the Thank feature,
the banning of users is really nice you can even suspend someone for X hours or from a specific forum,
its written in a language I'm familiar with (C# and ASP),
installing modules/extensions/skins is extremely easy.

Overall, the site is really great and with having the source code and it being in a language I'm knowledgeable leaves expandability virtually limitless. I just need to get familiar with the nuts and bolts of everything and then I can start tinkering.

I'll probably start working on a dark theme this weekend, or the next.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2011 8:07:20 AM(UTC)
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Compiling right now.. a few comments.

<Likes>

  • Layout
  • Expanded Post Editor Features
  • Album's (Although not friendly to link from)
  • Like the lighter theme.. has a cleaner look.. although I think we could spruce up from of the backsplashes with some PH logos or other water marked images.
  • Like the fact that the screen focus sticks even if a large image is posted
  • Love the fact that it is very easy to look at a posters last posts..
  • Love the edit notification concept, even if the dialog within needs improvement
  • Like the latest posts listing at the bottom of the page.
  • Because I have control "freak" tendencies, lol.. or I am just plain nosy, I like the fact that you can see where others are at.. albeit again that needs some tweaking from YAF perspective.
  • I like the idea that the platform can be expanded upon, updated and YAF will probably introduce new features along the way and clean up some of their code. 
  • Attach feature absolutely rocks.
<Dislikes>

  • New Post notification nonsense issue.. but that is more of an annoyance than hardcore issue.
  • Don't care for the shoutbox placement, sizing and the fact the flyout seems flaky. 
  • Navigation controls are spotty.. but concepts are solid
  • There seems to be random errors in the code.. like as mentioned that fact at times the software boots you out of a thread.


Will add more today as I am compiling... the monotonous cycles in the ERP development software.. lol.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2011 8:48:27 AM(UTC)
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A tip for my fellow PH members to help them overcome the problems with new post notifications. This isn't foolproof, but it works well enough.

Open the front page of the forum in one tab. Thereafter, open all links (i.e., sub-forums) by right-clicking and selecting "Open in new tab" (or equivalent command in your browser). Then from the second tab, right-click on all links to threads and open in yet a third tab. Whenever you finish a thread, close that tab and open the next thread in a new tab. After you have read all the threads in a sub-forum, close the second tab and open the next sub-forum in a new tab.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2011 8:54:48 AM(UTC)
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Another Dislike to add...

  • no bb tags allowed in signatures today..including img tags.. must be a new flipped setting.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#10 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2011 8:59:12 AM(UTC)
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I'll be eliminate the current ShoutBox with my own personal flavor Fan Shout, when I find time to learn how to create a module, lol.

The BBCode in Signatures is something I can fix now, I made a boo boo. <-- should be fixed now
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Offline zombieslayer  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2011 9:36:03 AM(UTC)
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When a thread is opened with multiple pages, it always goes to the first page. It should go to the last page. We've already read the first page.

EDIT: Zero - I just noticed you noticed this so you can either disregard this or keep it here for reference.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2011 9:53:52 AM(UTC)
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Click the following button (view image (double click)) when opening a thread and it will index to the latest post in the thread.


The other button to the right of it.. that indexes you to your last unread on the thread..

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#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 8, 2011 11:11:51 AM(UTC)
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<Another Dislike>

  • Inability to post a poll.
I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline Wade  
#14 Posted : Thursday, June 9, 2011 10:36:42 AM(UTC)
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Anyone else notice that the "post" button often needs to be clicked twice (or more) to start loading your reply?
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#15 Posted : Thursday, June 9, 2011 1:50:52 PM(UTC)
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Yep, and as has been pointed out before, instead of loading the Post a reply dialog, it often loads the New Topic dialog instead -- sometimes multiple times in a row.

Rourke's Maxim No. 27: Most internet forum software is shitty.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, June 9, 2011 10:46:21 PM(UTC)
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I don't mind the white in the actual forum, though if you want constructive criticism on it here it is: I do think there needs to be more contrast. As I am typing this I see a lot of grey sections, either they need to be darker, or everything that is completely white (the outside edges) should be green.

Also, the white on the homepage is what bugs me. I realize the site is nowhere near finished, but the homepage just looks like it. It looks like it was half done, simply because there is sooo much white. That's ok for the forum, but for the homepage, it just doesn't work. Adding grey for contrast in the text boxes would work nicely, I think.
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#17 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 5:21:28 AM(UTC)
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I really hate the HTML editors that we have. I know that it is nice to have a choice of editors.
But I do not see where any of them have the "quote" button. So I type in the [quote" "/quote] myself.
Some of them do not have spell check squiggles. That is manditory for me since I am such a lousey speller. (mistakes here where intentional.)
When I copy and paste an article all of the editors put way too many spaces between paragraphs. I find it annoying.
I know you have tried to help me with making code columns but with this new site I just can not seem to get it down. It is very frustrating for me.
Some of them will arbitrarily highlight a sentence or paragraph and cut it off when I try and paste additional info or type in some other information.  I have tried them all so many times I can not remember which one does what.
Of course the time out is annoying as well.  Sometimes I head out to other sites looking for info and comeback to a timeout.  Sometimes I get tyied up with other times (Like work) and get timed out. 

Some of the editors make me post to a security box.  That is pretty lame.  Others won't let me cut and paste.  But I can if I use the "edit" button on the browser.
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#18 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 5:55:59 AM(UTC)
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The text editors I'm told are third party, except the "YAF" and "DNN" editors. That means, I can't really do much about them. I too noticed the lack of spell check with HTML and the stupid extra spacing and the lack of a quote button, and ease of insert an image too.

I'm not sure what you mean by posting to the security box.


Finding a suitable HTML or BBCode editor is one of the things I tend to do. I just don't know when unfortunately.
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#19 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 7:28:45 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
The text editors I&#39;m told are third party, except the &quot;YAF&quot; and &quot;DNN&quot; editors. That means, I can&#39;t really do much about them. I too noticed the lack of spell check with HTML and the stupid extra spacing and the lack of a quote button, and ease of insert an image too.



I&#39;m not sure what you mean by posting to the security box.





Finding a suitable HTML or BBCode editor is one of the things I tend to do. I just don&#39;t know when unfortunately.




first I get this in a popup box when I want to copy-



Quote:
Your browser security settings don&#39;t permit the editor to automatically execute copying operations. Please use the keyboard for that (Ctrl/Cmd+C).




then I get this in another one.





Quote:
Because of your browser security settings, the editor is not able to access your clipboard data directly. You are required to paste it again in this window.





Please paste inside the following box using the keyboard (Ctrl/Cmd+V) and hit OK

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#20 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 7:29:49 AM(UTC)
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I have 2 different computer that it shows up on. I am not smart enough to mess with the "settings". This in in CK Editor.

 

It also adds all the extra spaces between the lines.  When I look at my text in the edit mode there are no additional lines to delete.
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#21 Posted : Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:22:36 AM(UTC)
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Not having the links on each page that go back to the forum one is on is a pain - or am I not seeing it.
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#22 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 7:01:54 AM(UTC)
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I can't see the user names when they are in black and the background in green. These may be the same colors as the old site but I used the light version in order to see better. Colorblindness is a b****.
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#23 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:45:20 AM(UTC)
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The site looks MUCH nicer since you set the background to green.

I was a member of GameFAQs' social forums for about 5 years, during that time they went through a lot of graphical changes. Everytime they did, everyone complained and threatened to leave but never did. Then they did the same thing when they changed the new graphics.

The point is, things like this just take a bit of adjustment as long as the changes aren't very radical.

I do kind of miss the shout but I'm guessing you got sick of people using it for drawn-out discussions and in lieu of actually posting a topic.

Aaand, I think that's all I got for now.
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#24 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 11:13:14 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Porforis Go to Quoted Post
The site looks MUCH nicer since you set the background to green.

I was a member of GameFAQs' social forums for about 5 years, during that time they went through a lot of graphical changes. Everytime they did, everyone complained and threatened to leave but never did. Then they did the same thing when they changed the new graphics.

The point is, things like this just take a bit of adjustment as long as the changes aren't very radical.

I do kind of miss the shout but I'm guessing you got sick of people using it for drawn-out discussions and in lieu of actually posting a topic.

Aaand, I think that's all I got for now.


Thanks. There are a few things I'd like to tweak yet on the Dark theme. I just can't figure out what class it is. WPR mentioned the one thing that's really bugging me in his quote below.

If folks choose to leave, that's their choice. I can only do so much in so much time and if that's not good enough, I do understand their decision.


Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
I can't see the user names when they are in black and the background in green. These may be the same colors as the old site but I used the light version in order to see better. Colorblindness is a b****.

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#25 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 11:17:22 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Porforis Go to Quoted Post
The site looks MUCH nicer since you set the background to green.

I was a member of GameFAQs' social forums for about 5 years, during that time they went through a lot of graphical changes. Everytime they did, everyone complained and threatened to leave but never did. Then they did the same thing when they changed the new graphics.

The point is, things like this just take a bit of adjustment as long as the changes aren't very radical.

I do kind of miss the shout but I'm guessing you got sick of people using it for drawn-out discussions and in lieu of actually posting a topic.

Aaand, I think that's all I got for now.


Go to Gate 16. It is right below the line "logged in as" and above "Forum" There is a "-" sign that opens up.
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