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Offline macbob  
#1 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2011 5:17:10 PM(UTC)

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Having suffered through the 20+ years prior of mediocrity (at best), I greatly enjoyed the string of playoff appearances (though I'd have preferred a couple more playoff wins) with Favre at QB.

My respect for him has diminished a lot over the last few years, but when I think back to what it was like pre-BF and to the enjoyment I got watching him play as the face of the Packers, I'd like to see him retire as a Packer (he looked god-awful in that Purple sh*t) and I'd like to see them retire his jersey.

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SHEBOYGAN FALLS, Wis. -- Brett Favre may be long gone from Green Bay, but the Packers organization has no intention of ever forgetting him. That includes bringing Favre back to Titletown to be formally honored and having his No. 4 uniform retired.
That's the word from someone who certainly ought to know - retired Packers President and CEO Bob Harlan. Harlan was among the many Packers alumni participating in Monday’s Packer Hall of Fame Golf Classic at The Bull Pinehurst Farms. Harlan was part of a foursome that included general manager Ted Thompson.

Though Favre and the Packers went through an ugly divorce following the 2007 season, Harlan made it clear that the team has every intention of giving Favre his due in terms of publicly honoring him for all of his accomplishments. Favre helped put Green Bay back on the football map, leading the team to two Super Bowl appearances and one championship, capturing an unprecedented three straight NFL Most Valuable Player awards along the way and setting a boatload of team and league passing records.

“I think regardless of what happened in New York and what happened in Minnesota the last two years with Brett Favre, I think you’ve got to go back to the 1990s when this franchise was resurrected,” said Harlan. “The foundation of that comeback was Ron Wolf, Mike Holmgren, Brett Favre and Reggie White. That was what got us started. I don’t think as Packer fans we should ever forget the contributions Favre made to this franchise. The day is going to come when he’s going to have to walk out onto Lambeau Field, be applauded and cherished and have his number retired because he’s going to go into the Hall of Fame in Canton very, very soon.”

Favre, who is eligible for induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2016, would be the sixth Packers player to have his number retired. The others: Tony Canadeo’s 3, Don Hutson’s 14, Bart Starr’s 15, Ray Nitschke’s 66 and Reggie White’s 92.

Though the Packers have not set a timetable for bringing Favre back to Green Bay, Harlan believes that honoring Favre in this fashion is the right thing to do.

“I can never forget what he did for us in the ’90s when we were trying so hard to win and, like I say, that was our foundation,” said Harlan. “Those four gentlemen were the ones who got us back to where the fans want us to be and where they expected us to be. I will always have a love for Brett Favre.”

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#2 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2011 5:21:50 PM(UTC)

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I don't know if this makes sense, but I think if he had called it quits in '09, there'd be more fans opposed to the retiring of Favre's number versus the amount there is after the '10 season.

I say that because I think fan's feel they were vindicated with beating the Favre led Vikings twice while on their way to winning the Super Bowl.
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#3 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2011 8:52:00 PM(UTC)

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Personally, the deal breaker for me is Lionsgate.

He dragged all of his honor through the privy. I wouldn't touch it by retiring his jersey, putting him in the Packer hall or on the ring of honor.

I can't separate the two. The talented guy who was fun to watch and the petty, backstabbing saboteur. If you honor one, you honor both.

I saw an article on the Onion before the Super Bowl.

It was about Ben Roethlisberger being one win away from being a good person.

One commentator said he couldn't get on the bandwagon until Ben had more Super Bowl wins than assault allegations.

I thought it was a wonderful bit of satire. Not only are they sometimes over rated as players for being on a winning team, they are sometimes over rated as human beings.
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Offline Cheesey  
#4 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2011 10:17:56 PM(UTC)

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Several good points, on both sides.
I won't forget what he did when he was here. That's what his jersey will be retired for.
My respect for him as a man was lowered alot by his petty actions. But some of it is our own fault, for putting ANY human on a pedastal. He could throw a football very well, and played through pain that most men couldn't do. And we, as fans, often overlooked his off field actions because of what he did for "us" as fans.
He was a putz often even when he was a QB here. His partying, womanizing, and drug abuse were ignored because of who he was to us.

His jersey SHOULD be retired, in my view. And i'd still love to sit with him and have a beer, or soda, and talk with the guy. I bet it would be a blast.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:41:37 AM(UTC)

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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't know if this makes sense, but I think if he had called it quits in '09, there'd be more fans opposed to the retiring of Favre's number versus the amount there is after the '10 season.

I say that because I think fan's feel they were vindicated with beating the Favre led Vikings twice while on their way to winning the Super Bowl.


Something I never thought about but I think you're right on the money here. We were still out for blood and vengeance after 2009, but we've calmed down a bit now.
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