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#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:29:49 PM(UTC)
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I can live with comments that the Packers are the best, he's the best, etc ... but I don't much care for singling out players or teams, it seems classless.

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Packers tight end Jermichael Finley has a message for the Eagles and the Saints: Enjoy everyone talking about you during the preseason while you can.

Finley was asked on WSSP in Milwaukee why the Eagles and Saints are getting more national media attention than the defending champion Packers, and Finley said it’s just a matter of time before that changes.

“I ain’t worrying about all that,” Finley said, via Sports Radio Interviews. “All that talk with the Eagles and the Saints, that will come to a halt, I guarantee you.”

Finley said he’s eager for the Packers’ September 8 opener against the Saints at Lambeau Field. And he dismissed Eagles quarterback Vince Young’s claim that the Eagles are a “dream team.”

“Ah man, that’s just talk,” Finley said. “That’s on paper. VY is a backup, I don’t think he should be doing too much talking.”

http://profootballtalk.n...p-the-eagles-and-saints/
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:41:36 PM(UTC)
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Finley's a dumbass. Reminds me a lot more TO and Moss than Rice and DD.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:42:35 PM(UTC)
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JMike.. leave this nonsense to Briggs, Urlacher and Robinson..

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:54:34 PM(UTC)
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I really have nothing nice to say about Finley at this moment. Finley calling out VY about being a backup just makes me laugh. I think there are backup TEs that have as many TDs if not more than Finley in the last three years. I have had enough of this clown.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:03:37 PM(UTC)
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I never felt talk was as big as some fans made it out to be, which is why I've often been sympathetic toward players like Ochocinco, Owens, and Moss. The national media has created a perception that it's bad to talk like that. It makes no difference on the football field, so it's meaningless. Shannon Sharpe did an awful lot of talking throughout his career. He's in the Hall of Fame. If Finley has half the career he did at TE, it's all good in my opinion.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:12:24 PM(UTC)
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Agreed.. it matters little between the lines.. but in the media filled environment we live in, why bother subjecting the team to the extra attention.

All this "just talk" is nothing more than that.. contributing to it proves little other than more talk and all it can do is bite you in the ass.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:15:37 PM(UTC)
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For me it has nothing to do with the football field or thinking his talk would affect the outcome at all. As a fan of the team I prefer to have players not be arrogant jerks. As Zero said, I don't mind him saying Packers are looking great, but to single out a person and use their role as a position to say that they aren't worthy enough to talk. I don't agree with belittling people, you can disagree with someone's opinion, but how does him being a backup have anything to do with it? Especially when Finley's stat line looked a lot like a backup last season.

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:18:39 PM(UTC)
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It seems like whenever Finley says anything at all there are fans just waiting to pounce on it and overreact. I don't see anything very bad about what he said here.

Some of you really need to get a grip. This is supposed to be about a GAME that is FUN. These aren't football robots out there playing they are people with personalities. We get way too worked up about a little competitive trash talk.

The only thing that gets to me is players directly calling out their teammates. The only thing that bothers me about this is it was directed at two teams I don't care about instead of the Vikings or Bears.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:20:42 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Tezzy Go to Quoted Post
For me it has nothing to do with the football field or thinking his talk would affect the outcome at all. As a fan of the team I prefer to have players not be arrogant jerks.

Finley isn't the only arrogant player in this locker room. He's just the only one that shows it in front of the camera. If you don't want players to be arrogant, you might as well stop watching football. I understand we’re you’re coming from, but we're talking about guys who make millions of dollars. Ego comes with the territory.

I understand the criticism of unwanted attention. At the same time, the only thing that matters is how the guys in the locker room perceive him. For all the flack Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders got, I never really heard anyone important come out and say they were bad teammates.

That's when you have something to worry about.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:24:56 PM(UTC)
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I'm actually on Finley's side here, I don't see any negativity from his comments. I mean let's be serious, Eagles & Saints < Packers. I love seeing confidence from players on the team keeps the fire burning.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:32:28 PM(UTC)
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Come on some of you guys are such haters. First of all I love his swagger and second what he is saying is not that ridiculous. He called out a back up QB, I think that's pretty reasonable.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:35:51 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: The_Claymaker Go to Quoted Post
Come on some of you guys are such haters. First of all I love his swagger and second what he is saying is not that ridiculous. He called out a back up QB, I think that's pretty reasonable.


True, I commented only after reading the headline and not taking his comments in context. I'm all for swagger, I just don't like the mentioning of other players or teams too much. I prefer how Aaron Rodgers throws down his swagger. He calls people out, but doesn't use their names directly.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 3:25:55 PM(UTC)
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Finley's comments would be easier to swallow if he did not spend most of last season off the field. Injuries are not his fault directly but you figure he would be thinking about wanting to prove himself for a full season before talking like he has already made the pro bowl. The guy doesn't seem to have much going on upstairs when he makes comments like this.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:52:00 PM(UTC)
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My impression of Finley has always been that he has million dollar talent and a ten cent brain. The guy's dim, plain and simple. He's got the talent to back up his mouth, so hopefully we see him do just that.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:07:57 PM(UTC)
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Who the hell is Jermichael Finley? Is he new? I don't remember seeing him.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:12:32 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: tromadz Go to Quoted Post
Who the hell is Jermichael Finley? Is he new? I don't remember seeing him.

He's usually on the side line with a crutch.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:32:35 PM(UTC)
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Here is a link to the orig. article with more quotes:

http://blogs.greenbaypre...e-but-to-re-sign-finley/

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Packers tight end Jermichael Finley talks a good game, as my latest column points out, but he also backs it up on the field. He has the potential to become one of the best tight ends in the NFL, if not the best.

Can there even be a question that the Packers should attempt to give Finley, who will become an unrestricted free agent following this season, a new contract?

Sure, some wonder if Finley can be content in the Packers offense, where Aaron Rodgers has a boatload of receiving options. But the matchup problems Finley creates simply give offensive mastermind Mike McCarthy even more ammunition, so why would you allow such a valuable weapon to get away?

Some wonder too whether Finley might allow fame and his impending fortune to get the best of him. There’s no way of knowing for sure, but Finley is driven to be the best tight end in football so we can only assume money won’t change him after he signs a big contract.

Finley also has been prone to injuries, which is another concern to consider. But the reward for keeping him far outweighs any injury risk.

Yes, the Packers won a Super Bowl without Finley, who was lost for the season in Week 5 last October. But General Manager Ted Thompson and McCarthy talk all the time about the constant need for improvement. Adding the Finley piece to the Packers’ offense for years to come has the potential to make this team dynamic and cause nightmares for opposing defensive coordinators.

Bottom line, the Packers need to lock up Finley long term, the sooner the better.

Of course, an added benefit to having Finley around is that he’s a media member’s dream. He always seems to have something interesting to say. Here are a some bonus quotes from his session with the media Tuesday in the locker room:

On his injured knee: “That’s nothing right now. It’s all about getting that chemistry of my team right now. The knee is a non-factor. I’m ready to go, ready to play.”

On if there are enough footballs to go around: “As long as we get the W, the ball thing, that’s a non-factor also. We’re going to get our balls. I think the receiving corps is going to be happy at the end.”

On the early struggles of the offense in training camp: “We’re not playing for a Super Bowl tomorrow, the next day or a week from now. We just trying to get in swing of things.”

On all the attention given to the Eagles and the national spotlight not being on the Packers: “I ain’t worrying about that. All I can say is Sept 8, all that talking with the Eagles, Saints, that will come to a halt, I guarantee you.”

On Eagles backup quarterback Vince Young nicknaming the Eagles the Dream Team: “It’s just talk, it’s on paper. VY is a backup. I don’t think he should be doing too much talking but at the same time it’s on paper.”

On if he plans to talk to President Obama during the White House visit: “Hopefully do a lot of it.”

On how hard it was to watch from the sidelines last year: “It was a bittersweet thing. I was (ticked) off mad, all of that. At the same time we won a Super Bowl. You can’t ask for more.”

On his No. 1 goal: “No. 1 goal is to get back there (to the Super Bowl), get a repeat, get that greatness back on the board. Get back on the board, succeed.”

On whether having so many good receivers could be a problem for the Packers: “It’s not a problem, as long as whoever’s getting the ball thrown to them is making plays. We’ve got tons and tons of weapons, we’ve got weapons off the shelf. We’ve got weapons on the shelf. So we got ammunition all over.”

On how many footballs are needed to keep everyone happy: “Whoever (Aaron Rodgers) throws the ball to, whoever gets the ball at that time, if he’s making plays, no reason to complain because as long as we’re getting Ws, everybody is satisfied.”

On if there could be any roadblocks to him re-signing with the Packers: “It’s a business. If they come at me with a long term, of course I’ll take it, but if they don’t I’m still going to play ball to my best.”

On whether he thinks about a new contract: “I don’t think about it daily or nothing like that. That’s just something that Ted’s got to deal with.”

On losing weight in the offseason: “I went into the offseason weighing 255, came out 240 so I’m feeling great. Strength is still there. I’m ready to go.”

On whether he can still block at a lower weight: “Can I still block, for sure. If the coaches put that in front of my face, and I got 50 blocks a game, I guess I’ve got to do it and just be beat up after the game.”

On what drives him: “What drives me, just being the best, man. Every aspect of my life I like to be the best at what I do. And that’s what drives me to wake up and do what I do, is to just be the best.”

On why he couldn’t stop using Twitter: “It was just, I like to give back to the fans. Tweeting is not a big deal, it ain’t like I’m tweeting out there while I’m running routes or whatnot. I’m tweeting while I’m just sitting down or my wife is driving. It’s just something to give back to my fans and keep ’em on point with what I’m doing.”

On whether he dwells on last year’s injury: “I haven’t even watched the play, and it’s something I don’t think about. That’s the past and I’m moving forward.”

On his physical condition: “This is the best shape I ever came in since I been in the league. I came in healthy, a little slimmer, faster and stronger. I can’t ask for more.”

On which NFL players he watches on film: “I pull up Gates, and Gonzalez of course. Wayne on outside. Wayne, the reason I put him up on the outside is because he’s got the best press coverage. He can beat the press coverage any way you want.”

On the Packers offense: “I think we got the deadliest offense in the league. We don’t get that much pub or whatnot, but at the same time we’re on paper right now. (We) still got to go on the field and do work.”

On how many receptions he would like to get this season: “If A-Rod throws me the ball, I’ll catch it. You see that yourself. If he throws me the ball 80 times I’m (going) to have 80 receptions. At the same time I can’t predict the future.”

On his relationship with Aaron Rodgers: “I just stay in his ear period, just to keep learning and keep progressing in my game. Aaron is a great quarterback, just an awesome quarterback. I think he’s the best in the league right now, at a young age.”

On what he has learned from Rodgers: “Really just about detailing, just detailing your work, detailing every aspect of your game, which he (does). You ain’t got no choice but to just learn off him.”

On helping the younger tight ends: “No, I ain’t a talkative guy. I just like to get out there and work and do my job to tell you the truth. It’s business and you’ve got to do what you can to get what you want.”

On whether he believes it’s not his job to help the other tight ends: “I ain’t saying it’s not my job to help them, but I’m in the playbook just like they need to be in the playbook. If they’ve got questions I’ll answer for them, but at the same time, it’s about that time for me to just take off.”

On what he is doing to improve: “Just being consistent, staying on board, detailing every aspect of your game, that’s what I’m working on. I’m working on more film work. I’m working on taking my film work to the field. It’s crazy how good I want to be and the level I want to play at.”


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#18 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:32:37 PM(UTC)
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Go J-Finn...testify!!
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:08:34 PM(UTC)
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i see his point about philly talking smack, but i dont think the saints are saying much , they seem pretty tame, i do think the falcons are abit more talkative these days then the saints !!
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:42:34 PM(UTC)
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Finley's a great player, but he also happens to be a loudmouth and an idiot. Sometimes that happens. If this is how he talks in training camp, after a season that he mostly missed because of an injury, imagine how much he's going to be flapping his gums in the playoffs. I don't think it affects the team much. It's just kind of nauseating to listen to. I'm still looking forward to watching him play, though.
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#21 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2011 1:33:40 AM(UTC)
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Finley better settle down, He'll be on thin ice if Ted Thompson sees him as a problem and our rookie TE continues to impress...........
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#22 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:34:09 AM(UTC)
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I don't mind this team showing a bit of swagger coming off their Super Bowl win, but Finley needs to get back on the field and do what made him such a valuable asset in 2009 instead of running his mouth.
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#23 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:25:36 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jacob Go to Quoted Post
Finley better settle down, He'll be on thin ice if Ted Thompson sees him as a problem and our rookie TE continues to impress...........


I think Jermichael Finely might be okay, considering what Ted Thompson is saying.

Ted Thompson wrote:
Finley is very competitive guy on the field. He’s very outgoing in way he talks. I don’t mind that. You can sometimes cross the line but I haven’t seen J-Mike cross the line.
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#24 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:08:59 AM(UTC)
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Despite what Ted said in that quote, I think how he drafted the last 2 years is much more telling about his feelings towards Finley. Whether it be due to injuries, his mouth, or the combo platter, to me it's clear that Ted has reservations about resigning Finley.
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#25 Posted : Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:11:21 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: musccy Go to Quoted Post
Despite what Ted said in that quote, I think how he drafted the last 2 years is much more telling about his feelings towards Finley. Whether it be due to injuries, his mouth, or the combo platter, to me it's clear that Ted has reservations about resigning Finley.


Very true. I wasn't really expecting Ted Thompson to say 'no comment' or anything that could devalue Jermichael Finley.
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