Discussion Board
Welcome Guest! You can login or register. Login or Register.

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Saturday, August 22, 2009 9:44:37 AM(UTC)
Green Bay Press-Gazette and PackerForum
In 2004 I attempted to combine two passions, the Green Bay Packers and website/discussion board development. At that time PackersNews.com (Green Bay Press-Gazette) forum was using ColdFusion software which was primitive and expensive. I offered to upgrade it for free which they declined. I found PF which was using phpBB2, a software I knew well and enjoyed. Fortunately, Ryan (owner of PF) masterfully turned many of my suggestions into a very popular discussion board that years later he would eventually sell.

Packers Highlight Videos
The 2006 season is when I started creating (6-10 minute) highlight videos of the Packers seasons. I wanted to capture Brett Favre's last season and provide those who couldn't see the game with more than the 10 second SportsCenter clips. The NFL warned through YouTube they would prosecute if the videos were not removed. This would lead into creating a Packers site to host the videos so they could be available to whomever would like to view them.

PackersHome
In addition to highlight videos, I wanted to give fans a small friendly place where they could freely discuss the Packers while having an array of unique features we don't often see with your typical run-of-the-mill fan site. I searched up and down for a new software to learn and settled with DragonFly CMS. When the site first went online in October 2006 it was under the domain www.DailyPackers.com (as suggested by tromadz). That name was good, but I wanted something more 'home' and thus www.PackersHome.com was born.

Platform Evolution
14 Oct 2006 - [php] DragonFly CMS
19 May 2011 - [asp.net] DotNetNuke & YAF
05 July 2012 - [asp.net]Custom ASP.Net & YAF
04 Sep 2013 - [asp.net] Custom ASP.Net & YAF & Bootstrap




Updated by user Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:33:43 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Porforis  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 2, 2009 8:30:07 PM(UTC)
I'm sure you'll have a second segment to this story to add after this season's up.

I've got a few questions that I find interesting and someone else might as well... My apologies if these answers exist elsewhere (poked around a few different boards for a few minutes), but I think they're quite relevant to this topic.

1. Where is your server? Do you have a fat pipe going to your/another staff member's house and are running your server there, or is the server at a colo?
2. Do you personally deal with server maintenance/updates/etc, or are you strictly the code monkey and chief peace keeper?
3. Did you learn from any mistakes on your previous boards that have made a special impact on the development and growth of PackersHome?
Zero2Cool  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 2, 2009 8:39:04 PM(UTC)
Interesting array of questions you have ...

1.) Locked away in a super secret location. :) Colo
2.) Code monkey? Jeepers ... I believe the first question's answer answers this one as well.
3.) I learned a great deal from previous boards and mistakes made with them. The growth of PackersHome has come from within. Primarily there was a nice kick in the pants when a previous website that I used to frequent was sold to a non-Packers fan owner. The core group of those members came here and it's been an upward swing ever since.
dhpackr  
#4 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 7:04:01 PM(UTC)
had no idea u and trom were kronies. what that dork knows about football u could stick o the head of a pin.

whats with the Bio????
Zero2Cool  
#5 Posted : Friday, September 9, 2011 1:04:52 PM(UTC)
Hello Everyone,

A little background information on myself to start things off. The first discussion board that I developed was for a company called Worr Games Paintball out of California in 2002. I chose phpBB2 software. The site flourished with over 15,000 users at its unfortunate demise. I was hired by a fellow gamer (who was an exec with WGP) to develop and to moderate the website. From what I was told, WGP was bought out by K2 and K2 refused to have a non professional web designer on their payroll. They said they loved the work that I had done, but had to go in 'a different direction'. They tried to maintain the integrity of the board. The new admin and staff was unable to maintain control and ultimately the higher ups felt it was giving WGP a bad name and shut it down. The site lasted three or four years under my admin, less than a month under the professionals.

In 2003 I began receiving offers by several gaming team leaders to develop websites and discussion boards for their respective teams. I learned phpNuke, Post Nuke and several other CMS software and HTML in the process. It also started my foundation for loving to be a code monkey that later played a significant role in deciding my career path.

In 2004 I discovered PackersNews.com boards and were they ever terrible! It was slow, poor design and no consistent admin or moderator to speak of. I offered my services to upgrade and if needed, help moderate. They were worried about cost (They were using I believe ColdFusion and paid DEARLY for it too). I informed them the software was free as were my services and I would even do the work at their location of choice. I never head back from them. Thanks Julie!

Later that same year I came across PF a phpBB2 software based Packers site!! Pay dirt! I could talk Packers on a smooth running, quick forum that I was familiar with and it had a rocking admin to boot. I had ambitions to develop my own Packers themed site for awhile, but with my recent discovery, I put the dream on hold. Going to college also assisted that decision. I threw tons of suggestions/ideas at the owner and eventually drove him bonkers at no fault of his own. I was overly persistent and at times mistakenly feeling my ideas were supreme.

In 2006 I started recording Packers games for the purpose of capturing Brett's final season. I started editing them into short 6-10 minute highlight reels and posting them on YouTube.com. The NFL contacted myself through YouTube staff warning me they would prosecute if they were not removed. They did the removing for me and destroyed my account. That was the final straw. I wanted the videos to be available to anyone who wanted them, it left me with no other option. I had to find a host and start development on my own Packers website.

In October 2006, I searched up and down for a decent software to develop the website. I already had vast experience with phpBB2, php nuke and post nuke among a few others. I desired something new, different perhaps, a new challenge. I came across DragonFly CMS, which coincidently was the same software that eventually powered PF. That bothered me as I wanted to offer something that Packers fans couldn't find elsewhere. I really bought into the features and versatility of the software. I was familiar with the foundation of DragonFly CMS and with that decided I would put forth my best effort to make the site unique if at all possible. Anyone who knows anything about CMS based websites knows how difficult that can be as they are all very similar cosmetically. Even more so when you are limiting your options to a specific color pallete.

Selecting the right name was not an easy task. Tromadz came up with DailyPackers.com. I grew fond of it immediately. We started using that for some time. I had my reservations as I felt the name should begin with the word "Packers". The direction I had envisioned for the website was a place members could call home for Packers discussion. Thus, PackersHome.com was born.

The vision for PackersHome.com was to start off small and let word of mouth transpire the website into whatever it may grow into. The main attraction was the highlight videos and live play by play. Traffic was coming in, but not many were staying around. There were a handful of loyal members who contributed and I was satisfied with that. The five year plan was in effect and going accordingly.

Early June of 2008, PackOne contacted me with a proposition on methods to increase traffic. Increasing the traffic wasn't a priority of PackersHome.com at that point. He had several suggestions and a passion that truly inspired me. The best thing about his suggestions is they worked! PackersHome.com was growing on a steady pace nearly topping 400 members. A total I wasn't predicting to top until the first half of the 2008 NFL season.


... to be continued






PackersHome has gone through quite a few changes since the last entry and most recently one very dramatic change.

PackersHome was originally developed in a PHP language using MySQL for a database on a Linux operating system. This was something new and interesting to develop in. It presented several challenges and ultimately the CMS used, DragonFly ceased to provide updates.

January 2011, we were shut down on suspicion of being a source of email spam. This was immediately proved inaccurate and the site was restored, however, again we were shut down for the same accusation in May 2011. Saying I was furious over this would be a drastic understatement. We had started the process of getting the new platform ready for take over and the plan was to have a full transition completed during the Summer of 2012 at the earliest. Being shut down twice in four months was unacceptable, and the transition was undertaken in two days, rather than six months to a year. It was a bumpy ride and there's still some bumps.

The transition was forced to avoid hitting PackersHome only to find out that it's been shut down again. That's unstable, inconsistent and again, unacceptable.

PackersHome is now using DotNetNuke with YetAnotherForum plugin for the forums. It's purely C# and ASP.NET with a SQL database on a Windows operating machine. This means, the functions and features that can be developed from the PackersHome team are virtually endless, providing time and skill of course.

PackersHome is implementing a new direction with off site articles being posted in summary or entirety. Previously full off site article posting was agreeable if source link was provided. Surprisingly enough in this day of age, some "editors" fail to understand the hierarchical benefit of other sites spreading their material to more eyes at no financial cost to them. PackersHome's goal is to have its members be more interactive.

Unfortunately, PackersHome will not be creating videos of Packers games anymore. The time to piece together ~7 minutes of highlights became too much effort to merit it's minimal use.



... to be continued

Updated by user Wednesday, May 27, 2015 11:06:08 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Rss Feed
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error

Fan Shout
Smokey (16h) : CHAT and Draft Thursday night in the PACKERSHOME CHAT ROOM ! Don't forget the cold beer .
TheKanataThrilla (21-Apr) : Seattle at Pack week 1. Hopefully Aaron gets some reps this preseason.
TheKanataThrilla (20-Apr) : Ruben Foster tests positive for weed. Any chance he falls to us? Probably not.
Smokey (20-Apr) : Thanks wpr, I'll order a L.Pizza !
wpr (20-Apr) : Smokey the chat room has been available for prior drafts
Smokey (20-Apr) : Great News , Zero . Also will the "Chat" room be up and operating for the 1st round of the NFL Draft ?
Zero2Cool (20-Apr) : Packers schedule coming out today, 7pm CST
Zero2Cool (19-Apr) : Fans should care about Dean Blandino’s departure from the NFL because it matters…a lot http://ble.ac/2osxh74
Zero2Cool (19-Apr) : Aaron Hernandez found dead in prison cell
Tezzy (18-Apr) : That stat line of 142 of 144 regular season games
Zero2Cool (18-Apr) : A.J. Hawk will retire with the @packers after recording the most tackles in franchise history (1,118)
Smokey (14-Apr) : Hernandez already convicted of previous two murders .
Smokey (14-Apr) : Aaron Hermandez found Not Guilty of Murder Charges .
Smokey (11-Apr) : Packers will play the Eagles , Redskins , Broncos , and Rams in Preseason 2017 .
Zero2Cool (11-Apr) : Odd to see GM John Lynch .. I won't get used to that for a while haha
Cheesey (10-Apr) : I don't think she has anything to do with how he plays on the field.
Porforis (7-Apr) : 100% conjecture but maybe they've been on the rocks and that contributed to his long slump?
Zero2Cool (7-Apr) : Aaron Rodgers and actress Olivia Munn break up, People magazine reports. Here we go
Porforis (7-Apr) : Forum needs some FOOTBAH! l.
gbguy20 (6-Apr) : forum needs some uffda
Zero2Cool (5-Apr) : Marshawn Lynch told the @RAIDERS he intends to un-retire.
iscmarkiemark (5-Apr) : Garrett could be gone in the 1st even..
Smokey (2-Apr) : A REMINDER: Easter Sunday falls on April 16th .
Smokey (1-Apr) : Avoid the Rush, join today !
Zero2Cool (31-Mar) : 8 of 12 top draft picks from 2013 - are no longer with the team that drafted them...
FLORIDA PACKER88 (31-Mar) : I don't think Myles Garrett will be there in the 3rd haha
Nonstopdrivel (30-Mar) : NFL Network predicting Packers to trade out of 2nd round to snag Myles Garrett (DE, Texas A&M) in the 3rd round.
Smokey (30-Mar) : Packers sign OG Justin McCray, 321 lbs out of C.Florida .
Cheesey (29-Mar) : She wanted people to recognize who it was, and that was the only way anyone would!LOL!
Porforis (29-Mar) : Sorry, BEAR ass.
Porforis (29-Mar) : Jay Cutler's bare ass photographed by wife, put on social media.
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : I shouldn't be shocked there, but I am.
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : MM: Cook played very well for us, give him ton of credit for coming back, he almost went on IR
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : And it is now "Just Sin, Baby"
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : They won't sat, they will sit.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2017 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 7:30 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 8 @ 3:25 PM
at Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 15 @ 12:00 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 AM
- BYE -
Monday, Nov 6 @ 7:30 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
RAVENS
Sunday, Nov 26 @ 7:30 PM
at Steelers
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 10 @ 12:00 PM
at Browns
Saturday, Dec 23 @ 7:30 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 12:00 PM
at Lions
Saturday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
at Panthers
Think About It
Think About It
Recent Topics
4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

24-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

24-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / FLORIDA PACKER88

24-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

23-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / 68md

22-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

21-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / FLORIDA PACKER88

20-Apr / Around The NFL / Smokey

19-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

19-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / sschind

18-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / TheKanataThrilla

17-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / FLORIDA PACKER88

15-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / DoddPower

12-Apr / Football Familiarity / Smokey

Headlines