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nerdmann  
#1 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2011 1:24:59 AM(UTC)
Looks like Brandon Saine could be leapfrogging Grant to get a shot on third downs.
evad04  
#2 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2011 9:06:24 AM(UTC)
Ryan Grant rarely even plays on 3rd down.
gbguy20  
#3 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2011 9:06:24 AM(UTC)
why
wpr  
#4 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2011 9:59:43 AM(UTC)
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Fontenot acknowledged that it would be tough to find a lot of snaps for Saine because of James Starks and Ryan Grant are ahead of him. The team remains committed to Grant, but given McCarthy's comments it's not hard to see that Saine will get a chance to show what he can do sometime soon.


It is not going to happen anytime soon but if he earns more PT great. Give it to him.
Zero2Cool  
#5 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2011 10:05:07 AM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
It is not going to happen anytime soon but if he earns more PT great. Give it to him.


What injury does he have that he needs physical therapy for?
nerdmann  
#6 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2011 10:41:15 AM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
why




Dude's a speedster. Passcatching type. He's shown power up the middle and ability to pick up blitzes too.
DakotaT  
#7 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2011 10:47:48 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Dude's a speedster. Passcatching type. He's shown power up the middle and ability to pick up blitzes too.



Thank God, finally, a replacement for Brandon Jackson. [sarcasm]
Zero2Cool  
#8 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2011 10:54:02 AM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Dude's a speedster. Passcatching type. He's shown power up the middle and ability to pick up blitzes too.


From the article, it said something about 4.4 speed. I run that fast in my sleep.
mi_keys  
#9 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2011 12:01:20 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
From the article, it said something about 4.4 speed. I run that fast in my sleep.


So even in your dreams you're not overly fast. Man, how slow must you be in real life?
Yerko  
#10 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2011 12:17:03 PM(UTC)
I've been waiting for this guy to make some sort of appearance. I like seeing Big Ten players succeed in the NFL. I doubt he gets any kind of shot if Alex Green didn't really get much before his injury.
Zero2Cool  
#11 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2011 12:39:51 PM(UTC)
mi_keys said: Go to Quoted Post
So even in your dreams you're not overly fast. Man, how slow must you be in real life?

Physically or Mentally? lol


Anyboobies, I wouldn't mind seeing Brandon Saine get some action. Lord knows that Starks fella and Grant dude are not pumping out 100 yard games for the Packers at all.
Rockmolder  
#12 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2011 3:25:09 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
From the article, it said something about 4.4 speed. I run that fast in my sleep.


Track guy. He set a division 1 record on the 100 meter dash, won a couple of state championships and a national championships.

The guy has some speed.

This is from an article from 2006...

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Ginn, who will be a junior at OSU this fall, is a versatile wide receiver who also runs sweeps and reverses and boasts tremendous speed. Saine has those same qualities. The powerful 6-foot 210-pounder can bench-press 305 pounds and recently was hand-timed at a blazing 4.2 seconds in the 40-yard dash.


Anyway, I'm not going along with Nerdmann's ridiculous mancrushes on every single new RB we sign. From what I've seen, I don't know why he'd be better than Grant. A guy who's biggest asset, at his size, is his speed and very little else that sets him apart.
zombieslayer  
#13 Posted : Friday, November 18, 2011 3:57:19 PM(UTC)
Um....

Ryan Grant is not our 3rd down back and never will be. He is our starting HB because Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson want to get their money's worth before they let him go prior to the 2012 season. Grant used to be a top 10 RB. As I have feared, he didn't heal completely from injury.

Saine won't be leapfrogging Grant because Grant > Saine, despite Grant not healing completely from injury.

Ted Thompson will draft a RB in 2012 who will be our #2 RB behind Starks. Saine will not be that person.

What Dakota said was right on. We may have our replacement to Brandon Jackson. Yay! I'm not getting my hopes up though.
buckeyepackfan  
#14 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 5:39:19 AM(UTC)
Ryan Grant........69 carries...251yds..3.6avg...long 14....td's 0

James Starks....109 carries...503yds..4.6avg...long 40....td's 1

Alex Green.........3 carries... 11yds..3.7avg...long 8....td's 0

I agree with Zombie, Grant is listed as the starter, although Starks has recieved more carries and has a better stat line.

This is one of the things I really like about this team, they don't seem to get all caught up in "labels".

Just looking at the stats, I wonder how burnt out either back would be if they had to carry the whole load the first 9 games. Combined that would be 178 carries for 754yds, that would be very impressive, but not realistic.

The running game is going to get more important as the weather turns, instead of having 1RB who would probably be wearing down at this point, The Packers have 2 really good backs who remain fresh and ready for the playoff stretch.

As far as Brandon Saine, I sure hope he gets a few chances this week and performs well.

From watching him at Ohio State, he has the ability to be a receiver out of the backfield and he was an above average blocker, if he can show he can contribute at this level it would just be another plus for The Packers offense.
CaliforniaCheez  
#15 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 8:38:55 AM(UTC)
Grant won't be back next year. They are preparing for the future.
nerdmann  
#16 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:26:25 AM(UTC)
Grant is the starter, because they want to give props to him as a veteran. Starks has surpassed him. Green and Saine are better than Grant too, imo. They just haven't gotten their shots yet. Not saying that because I have a mancrush. Only because it's true.
evad04  
#17 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:39:20 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Grant is the starter, because they want to give props to him as a veteran.

This is total speculation. I'm fine with it, but as long as we all agree it's speculation.

Quote:
Starks has surpassed him.

Agreed. Though Grant has always been a player who seems to heat up with more carries. The one time this year he was given the load, he rushed it 19 times for 92 yards.

Quote:
Green and Saine are better than Grant too, imo. They just haven't gotten their shots yet. Not saying that because I have a mancrush. Only because it's true.

You saying it's true doesn't make it true. What evidence is there for either of these guys being better than Rodgers?
go.pack.go.  
#18 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:44:28 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Green and Saine are better than Grant too, imo. They just haven't gotten their shots yet.


That's like saying Matt Flynn is better than Rodgers, he just hasn't gotten a shot yet. You can't say they're better unless you have seen them in a starting role. Brandon Saine hasn't even seen the field once in the NFL as a RB.
nerdmann  
#19 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:08:59 PM(UTC)
go.pack.go. said: Go to Quoted Post
That's like saying Matt Flynn is better than Rodgers, he just hasn't gotten a shot yet. You can't say they're better unless you have seen them in a starting role. Brandon Saine hasn't even seen the field once in the NFL as a RB.



To clarify, they haven't gained as many yards in the NFL as Grant, but I believe their skill sets are superior. Hows that? Based upon empirical observation of them in action.
Dexter_Sinister  
#20 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:21:03 PM(UTC)
Fast isn't the same as good.

It looks like if Saine gets any action it will be filling in for Starks.
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