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Offline nerdmann  
#16 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:26:25 AM(UTC)
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Grant is the starter, because they want to give props to him as a veteran. Starks has surpassed him. Green and Saine are better than Grant too, imo. They just haven't gotten their shots yet. Not saying that because I have a mancrush. Only because it's true.
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#17 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:39:20 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Grant is the starter, because they want to give props to him as a veteran.

This is total speculation. I'm fine with it, but as long as we all agree it's speculation.

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Starks has surpassed him.

Agreed. Though Grant has always been a player who seems to heat up with more carries. The one time this year he was given the load, he rushed it 19 times for 92 yards.

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Green and Saine are better than Grant too, imo. They just haven't gotten their shots yet. Not saying that because I have a mancrush. Only because it's true.

You saying it's true doesn't make it true. What evidence is there for either of these guys being better than Rodgers?
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#18 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 12:44:28 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Green and Saine are better than Grant too, imo. They just haven't gotten their shots yet.


That's like saying Matt Flynn is better than Rodgers, he just hasn't gotten a shot yet. You can't say they're better unless you have seen them in a starting role. Brandon Saine hasn't even seen the field once in the NFL as a RB.
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#19 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:08:59 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. Go to Quoted Post
That's like saying Matt Flynn is better than Rodgers, he just hasn't gotten a shot yet. You can't say they're better unless you have seen them in a starting role. Brandon Saine hasn't even seen the field once in the NFL as a RB.



To clarify, they haven't gained as many yards in the NFL as Grant, but I believe their skill sets are superior. Hows that? Based upon empirical observation of them in action.
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#20 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:21:03 PM(UTC)
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Fast isn't the same as good.

It looks like if Saine gets any action it will be filling in for Starks.
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#21 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:24:59 PM(UTC)
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Fast isn't the same as good.

It looks like if Saine gets any action it will be filling in for Starks.



They are both faster than Grant, but that's not the only way they're better.
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#22 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:31:03 PM(UTC)
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They are both faster than Grant, but that's not the only way they're better.


Please elaborate on the other ways that they are "better".
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#23 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:45:15 PM(UTC)
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Please elaborate on the other ways that they are "better".



Receiving, pass pro, cutting, not running into the pile.
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#24 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:48:32 PM(UTC)
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Receiving, pass pro, cutting, not running into the pile.


Ryan Grant is actually pretty good in pass pro IMO. And I would comment on how good Alex Green and Brandon Saine are at that too but I haven't seen enough of Green and I haven't even seen Saine on the field.
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#25 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:52:12 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. Go to Quoted Post
Ryan Grant is actually pretty good in pass pro IMO. And I would comment on how good Alex Green and Brandon Saine are at that too but I haven't seen enough of Green and I haven't even seen Saine on the field.



I think if Grant was that good at pass pro, he'd be in on third down. I don't think they take him out because he's the "starter."
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#26 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:08:33 PM(UTC)
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He's going to get some increased playing time now. Starks is probably going to be out for at least a few weeks.
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#27 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:14:06 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Grant is the starter, because they want to give props to him as a veteran. Starks has surpassed him. Green and Saine are better than Grant too, imo. They just haven't gotten their shots yet. Not saying that because I have a mancrush. Only because it's true.

You must really hate grant lol
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#28 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:32:46 PM(UTC)
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You must really hate grant lol



I love Grant. He's a great backup. Glad we have him now.
I think Levens was better than Grant, just due to his vision, although I think Levens was also a better receiver out of the backfield and could get to the corner better. I think the high percentage offense and screens that Levens ran made him look better than guys like Starks.
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#29 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:53:31 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
I love Grant. He's a great backup. Glad we have him now.
I think Levens was better than Grant, just due to his vision, although I think Levens was also a better receiver out of the backfield and could get to the corner better. I think the high percentage offense and screens that Levens ran made him look better than guys like Starks.


And Jim Taylor was better than both of them. It's such a crying shame we can't have Jim Taylor as our RB. Dammit! Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall
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#30 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2011 4:02:59 PM(UTC)
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What we averaging a game running the ball 65-70. Wake me up when we have a problem. All this does is keeps Starks fresh for the stretch run.
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