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Offline Zero2Cool  
#31 Posted : Monday, March 5, 2012 3:00:47 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Formo, hell hath frozen over, but the Vikings did outplay the Saints that game, in every facet. But they did shoot their own foot off and to their credit, the Saints took full advantage.


I don't remember the Vikings outplaying the Saints, but I do recall the Vikings shooting themselves in the foot a few times an the Saints taking advantage.

Officials make bad calls, miss calls, etc ... whining about that is just sour grapes. I can understand the Vikings fans making excuses though, it was the closest they've been to a Super Bowl in a very long time and they won't be getting that close any time soon.

I'd be grabbing the boxes of Kleenex as well. Sniff. Sniff.




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If you honestly think anyone hear is making excuses, you sir, are a moron.

See what I did hear, err I mean here? See it? See it? Do ya?? Do ya????
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#32 Posted : Monday, March 5, 2012 3:52:32 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post


See what I did hear, err I mean here? See it? See it? Do ya?? Do ya????


Nope. Only thing I see is a moron. =)
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#33 Posted : Monday, March 5, 2012 4:16:39 PM(UTC)
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The only reason the Vikings fans are still obsessing about that Saints game is because it really mattered. They are so very unused to that and have absolutely no idea as to how to act.

It wasn't even a Super Bowl, for God's sake. I think they STILL haven't figured that part out.

Jared Allen should have never said he wanted to put his helmet in Aaron Rodger's spine. Karma is a complete pure bitch, I keep tellin' everyone.

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Offline Pack93z  
#34 Posted : Tuesday, March 6, 2012 1:59:45 PM(UTC)
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One.. depending on how the "bounty" was intended (injure vs smack him hard) I may or may not have a huge issue with the notion of a friendly wager in the locker room.

If they are betting whom gets more picks, tackles, decleaters... I have zero issue with it.

If they are placing money on knocking someone out of the game or worse.. well then I think it clearly is over the line.

I give two pinches less the opponent.. Vikes, Bears, Patriots, hell even the Cowboys.. it should be dealt with and post haste.



That said.. the NFL is chickensh*t and will not properly penalize the Saints.. just like it let Billy the Cheat and the Pats skate.

They might lay the hammer down on the players and asst coaches.. but the good ol' boy network will prevail at the franchise level. Too much money is at stake to deal with it properly.

I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline Packers_Finland  
#35 Posted : Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:55:05 PM(UTC)
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In a must-read account of the Saints’ three-season bounty system, Peter King of Sports Illustrated shares plenty of intriguing and compelling details. MDS already has highlighted portions of the article relating to Roger Goodell’s reaction to the situation and linebacker Scott Fujita’s position on the subject. But there’s even more good stuff.

During the 2009 NFC title game, which both sparked the league’s investigation and served as the most obvious example of assault and battery of an opposing quarterback, King writes that, after an unflagged high-low hit on Brett Favre resulted in a sprained ankle, an unnamed Saints defender was heard saying on an on-field microphone, “Pay me my money!”

(We know what you’re thinking: The league killed Monday’s re-air of the game on NFL Network because the comment could be heard during the broadcast. Apparently, however, it was a different microphone.)

King also explains that defensive end Anthony Hargrove can be heard saying, “Favre is out of the game! Favre is done! Favre is done!”

Both statements would be strong circumstantial proof of the existence of a bounty program, if the NFL hadn’t already found that the bounty program existed. And King spells out the weekly routine that unfolded during the 2009 season, defensive coordinator Gregg Williams’ first in New Orleans.

On Saturday night, Williams handed out in a defensive meeting envelopes containing payments for big plays and inflicted injuries from the prior Sunday. And the defenders would then chant, “Give it back! Give it back! Give it back!” Many did, which caused the pile of available cash to keep growing.

The bounty system continued even after, as King explains in the Tuesday edition of his MMQB column, former Vikings coach Brad Childress sent to the league video of eight different hits on Favre from that game, the Vikings officially alleged that the Saints had put a bounty on Favre, and Williams, linebackers coach Joe Vitt, and Hargrove denied (i.e., lied about) its existence to investigators. For Williams, the denials (i.e., lies) continued through the middle of February 2012, when Williams was confronted with evidence implicating him as the “ringleader.” Williams, per King, once again tried to deny it, but Williams then met with Goodell to confess.

Williams was back in New York on Monday, possibly to confess yet again (after possibly denying/lying yet again) his involvement in bounty systems in other cities.

King thinks the punishment issued to the Saints and various individuals will “likely dwarf” the penalties meted out for Spygate. The more we learn about the situation, the less surprising that will be.


Really, screaming "pay me my money" after injuring someone? That's pretty damn pathetic. I still don't think that the Saints wouldn't have won without the bounty system but morally this is about as low as you can get on a football field.
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Offline Zero2Cool  
#36 Posted : Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:17:51 PM(UTC)
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I say scratch out the Saints in the history books and remove the Lombardi and Halas Trophy's!
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#37 Posted : Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:22:33 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
One.. depending on how the "bounty" was intended (injure vs smack him hard) I may or may not have a huge issue with the notion of a friendly wager in the locker room.

If they are betting whom gets more picks, tackles, decleaters... I have zero issue with it.

If they are placing money on knocking someone out of the game or worse.. well then I think it clearly is over the line.




Bolded by me. I'm fine with wagers for tackles, sacks, interceptions, etc. I'm not fine with wagers for injuries. That's pretty f*cking sick.

I finally read the SI article in print because it was in my wife's chiropractor's office. I'd like to see the Saints get fined and lose a draft pick or two.
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#38 Posted : Saturday, March 10, 2012 7:21:43 PM(UTC)
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As a Vikings fan, the only punishment I would want was to turn back time and replay that game. If they can't do that.. Then no punishment is worthy enough. lol
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#39 Posted : Saturday, March 10, 2012 7:34:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Formo Go to Quoted Post
As a Vikings fan, the only punishment I would want was to turn back time and replay that game. If they can't do that.. Then no punishment is worthy enough. lol


lol you think Brett Favre is going to do a better job with a walker as he takes the snaps? :P And Adrian Peterson recovering from an ACL?
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#40 Posted : Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:14:54 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
lol you think Brett Favre is going to do a better job with a walker as he takes the snaps? :P And Adrian Peterson recovering from an ACL?


No, I actually meant 'Back to the Future' type mojo. Which is obviously not possible. Thus, no punishment is worthy. IMO
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Offline vikesrule  
#41 Posted : Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:58:55 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dfosterf Go to Quoted Post
.....Karma is a complete pure bitch, I keep tellin' everyone.

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Karma, eh?....Talking about something vs actually doing it.

Kind of like Al (Whoopi) Harris's so called "clean hit" on Adrian Peterson in his 2007 rookie season?
Took out Peterson for a couple of games with a knee injury on that one.

Back to the Karma, eh Foster....

Offline DakotaT  
#42 Posted : Sunday, March 11, 2012 9:06:48 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vikesrule Go to Quoted Post
Karma, eh?....Talking about something vs actually doing it.

Kind of like Al (Whoopi) Harris's so called "clean hit" on Adrian Peterson in his 2007 rookie season?
Took out Peterson for a couple of games with a knee injury on that one.

Back to the Karma, eh Foster....




Oh for Crist's sakes - Al tackled a moving target in the open field below the waste - how horrible.

It's sh*t like this that makes people laugh at Viking fans.
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#43 Posted : Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:02:35 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Oh for Crist's sakes - Al tackled a moving target in the open field below the waste - how horrible.

It's sh*t like this that makes people laugh at Viking fans.


lol

Weren't you the guy who harped on Jared Allen's playstyle?! You are starting to contradict yourself, Troy. =P
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#44 Posted : Sunday, March 11, 2012 6:27:49 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vikesrule Go to Quoted Post
Karma, eh?....Talking about something vs actually doing it.

Kind of like Al (Whoopi) Harris's so called "clean hit" on Adrian Peterson in his 2007 rookie season?
Took out Peterson for a couple of games with a knee injury on that one.

Back to the Karma, eh Foster....




It was a clean hit, and we won the game you are referencing in your video.

As to karma...

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Offline vikesrule  
#45 Posted : Sunday, March 11, 2012 7:09:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dfosterf Go to Quoted Post
It was a clean hit, and we won the game you are referencing in your video.
I'll bet you can figure out that reference, and hopefully can see through even your sadly-classicically-arc-weld-proof purple goggles clearly enough to differentiate between most and least.

Laugh


No problem there, foster.

I do find it interesting as to your sig.....
"damn skippy I'm an owner. I currently own a full .00001924537805515393 % of the Green Bay Packers."

So, how's that going to work out for you?

For example, the Packers had an operating profit of roughly $10 million in 2010. (Ya wade, I'm rounding just for you)
Say they repeat that next year. So that means that you should receive around $192.50 (ya rounding again, wade)

Great investment, seriously, in a few years that will equate to pure profit!

Impressive....most impressive indeed! My hats off to your financial acumen sir!








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