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Offline zombieslayer  
#101 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:33:10 AM(UTC)
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The Wells signing remind anyone of Jenkins' signing last year?

Last year everyone echoed the Packer party line that they couldn't afford to afford to overpay for Jenkins. And Jenkins ended up signing with Philly with a deal that was nowhere near "breaking the bank."

Now this year, the Packers again want to avoid overpaying Wells. And he signs for a deal which isn't particularly rich by 2012 standards for interior linemen.

Sometimes I think Ted tries to make too extra good a deal, and misses opportunities as a result.


I'm still convinced that what went wrong in 2011 was we lost Cullen Jenkins and got nobody to replace him.
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#102 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:04:02 AM(UTC)
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zombieslayer said: Go to Quoted Post
I'm still convinced that what went wrong in 2011 was we lost Cullen Jenkins and got nobody to replace him.


We had Neal, but he shit himself.
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#103 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:15:34 AM(UTC)
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We had Neal, but he shit himself.


Yeah. Neal played 7 games and got 0 sacks.

Wow. I just noticed the Jenkins in 11 games last year got more sacks than our entire DL combined in 2012. No pressure from the DL killed our D.
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#104 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:02:44 PM(UTC)
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I will admit Ted Thompson is good at building a team thru the draft but he is unproven on building a dynasty.

Who exactly in this league do you think is proven on building a dynasty?
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#105 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2012 5:10:12 PM(UTC)
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Who exactly in this league do you think is proven on building a dynasty?


I know you're asking Hazer, but I'll reply with that Pats guy (I think it's Kraft). He built the last one.

Right now, our biggest threat are the Giants. Their D kicks ass. The stats are misleading because they're injury prone and always seem to get healthy in time for the Playoffs. Their D was superb last year, but rated as average because of injuries. Once they got healthy, they started dominating. So that Giants guy too.
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#106 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:45:37 PM(UTC)
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Wade said: Go to Quoted Post
The Wells signing remind anyone of Jenkins' signing last year?

Last year everyone echoed the Packer party line that they couldn't afford to afford to overpay for Jenkins. And Jenkins ended up signing with Philly with a deal that was nowhere near "breaking the bank."

Now this year, the Packers again want to avoid overpaying Wells. And he signs for a deal which isn't particularly rich by 2012 standards for interior linemen.

Sometimes I think Ted tries to make too extra good a deal, and misses opportunities as a result.

Ted Thompson's philosophy has always been to let go of a player one year too soon than one year too late. I think he's doing the same here. He’s done it with Marco Rivera, Mike Wahle, Corey Williams, and Brett Favre.

We’ll see what happens here. The problem isn’t that Green Bay let Wells walk. It’s that there's no other alternative on the roster. Letting Jenkins go was a calculated risk. They overvalued Mike Neal. They know they have a major hole here. There are few decent options out there. Guys that have been hit or miss for much of their careers, but I don’t think they hold EDS in the same regard they held Mike Neal.
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#107 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2012 7:47:19 PM(UTC)
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Well they do have Lang on the roster. As for Neal, injuries happen. We saw that in '10 even moreso.

Sure, Neal had an injury history. But so did Jenkins, and he was 31.
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#108 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:10:20 AM(UTC)
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Ted Thompson's philosophy has always been to let go of a player one year too soon than one year too late. I think he's doing the same here. He’s done it with Marco Rivera, Mike Wahle, Corey Williams, and Brett Favre.

We’ll see what happens here. The problem isn’t that Green Bay let Wells walk. It’s that there's no other alternative on the roster. Letting Jenkins go was a calculated risk. They overvalued Mike Neal. They know they have a major hole here. There are few decent options out there. Guys that have been hit or miss for much of their careers, but I don’t think they hold EDS in the same regard they held Mike Neal.


Wahle was a cap casualty due to Sherman's mismanagement. Thompson said he wasn't happy that he had to let Wahle go. Who actually did play well for several more years. It doesn't fit the pattern.

Brett left. He wasn't let go. He doesn't count either.

Kampman has had major knee issues since he left. He could be considered as fitting that pattern.
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#109 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:27:47 PM(UTC)
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Wahle was a cap casualty due to Sherman's mismanagement. Thompson said he wasn't happy that he had to let Wahle go. Who actually did play well for several more years. It doesn't fit the pattern.

Brett left. He wasn't let go. He doesn't count either.

Kampman has had major knee issues since he left. He could be considered as fitting that pattern.

That’s a good point on Kampman. I don't want to rehash the whole Brett Favre debacle, but if the Packers wanted Favre, he would've played for Green Bay.

Frankly, many Packer fans overstated Wahle’s play in Carolina. He was adequate for the most part, with the exception of his first season, where he was very good. However, nowhere near the caliber player he was for the Packers, in my assessment.

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#110 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2012 7:01:10 PM(UTC)
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That’s a good point on Kampman. I don't want to rehash the whole Brett Favre debacle, but if the Packers wanted Favre, he would've played for Green Bay.

Frankly, many Packer fans overstated Wahle’s play in Carolina. He was adequate for the most part, with the exception of his first season, where he was very good. However, nowhere near the caliber player he was for the Packers, in my assessment.



I don't want to rehash the whole thing but as far as coming back, the un-retirement was as fake as the retirement. He didn't change his mind, it was all part of a plan. Probably Chilly's plan. I don't think Favre is smart enough to come up with it.

After the roster was set, Favre timed it to drop 12 mil on the cap and put them over the roster limit. Normally that would force a free release. Ted went to the NFL and got an exemption and had cap room for Favre.Ted said OK, come on in. That is when Favre backed off and said, it won't work and he would accept a trade to anybody. Because he knew they would never trade him to MN or give him a free release if he was under contract. Which ran through 2011.

He never wanted to retire, he never wanted to come back to Green Bay. He wanted out. He was never going to play for Green Bay. No matter what. Between the '06 and '07 seasons, he wanted out and demanded a trade too Minnesota. The retirement and un-retirement were part of that plan. Even the entire '07 season was part of that plan.

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