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Offline zombieslayer  
#16 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:46:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vikesrule Go to Quoted Post
Dang ZS, wish that you voiced your concerns earlier....I've been voting Rodgers all along.

I would have been there for ya little buddy....... Rolling On The Floor Laughing


May Brett Favre come out of retirement and win back his starting job for the Vikings.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22:46 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Formo Go to Quoted Post
Toddy is wrong. First off, the Madden 'curse' truely started with Vick.


I don't know this to be true without researching, but I heard it started with Barry Sanders because he retired shortly after being on the Madden cover.


Edit, one site says Garrison Hearst was the first after his awesome '98 season??



Madden 99 - Garrison Hearst - Missed both '99 and '00 seasons completely due to injury.
Madden 2000 - Barry Sanders (in the background) - Retired after '98 season
Madden 2000 - Dorsey Levens (one version) - Played only 5 games in '00
Madden 2001 - Eddie George - '01 season, 939 yards, 5 TD's
Madden 2002 - Daunte Culpepper - decent '02 season, for his standards
Madden 2003 - Marshall Faulk - missed 5 games in '03 season
Madden 2004 - Michael Vick - missed several games during '03 season
Madden 05 - Ray Lewis
Madden 06 - Donovan McNabb
Madden 07 - Shaun Alexander
Madden 08 - Vince Young
Madden 09 - Brett Favre
Madden 10 - Larry Fitzgerald/Troy Polamalu
Madden 11 - Drew Brees
Madden 12 - Peyton Hillis



Look up their seasons after being on the cover. Eek.


Edit2, tried adding their season summary while on cover, but Michael Vick confused me. He was put on the cover after playing less than half the '03 season?

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#18 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:39:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: zombieslayer Go to Quoted Post
May Brett Favre come out of retirement and win back his starting job for the Vikings.


Now you made me feel bad...

Tell ya what, my cheese infested amigo, if Rodgers wins and is on the cover and the Madden curse comes true...I shall buy you another bottle of that fine scotch.

For having the Packers go down the shitter, 400 dollars would be the best money ever spent....beats the hell out of 250 bucks for some worthless paper, aka "Packer Stock"



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#19 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:03:41 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
I don't know this to be true without researching, but I heard it started with Barry Sanders because he retired shortly after being on the Madden cover.


Edit, one site says Garrison Hearst was the first after his awesome '98 season??



Madden 99 - Garrison Hearst - Missed both '99 and '00 seasons completely due to injury.
Madden 2000 - Barry Sanders (in the background) - Retired after '98 season
Madden 2000 - Dorsey Levens (one version) - Played only 5 games in '00
Madden 2001 - Eddie George - '01 season, 939 yards, 5 TD's
Madden 2002 - Daunte Culpepper - decent '02 season, for his standards
Madden 2003 - Marshall Faulk - missed 5 games in '03 season
Madden 2004 - Michael Vick - missed several games during '03 season
Madden 05 - Ray Lewis
Madden 06 - Donovan McNabb
Madden 07 - Shaun Alexander
Madden 08 - Vince Young
Madden 09 - Brett Favre
Madden 10 - Larry Fitzgerald/Troy Polamalu
Madden 11 - Drew Brees
Madden 12 - Peyton Hillis



Look up their seasons after being on the cover. Eek.


Edit2, tried adding their season summary while on cover, but Michael Vick confused me. He was put on the cover after playing less than half the '03 season?


Good research. I literally was in rush to get out the door so I didn't have time to post much less do any real research. I mainly posted to instigate and rib Toddy.

Anyway, you are mostly right.. but I don't recall anyone actually using the Madden game cover as a 'curse' until Vick. Before Vick it was mostly a mirage rather than a trend. Obviously now it's a trend. Not to say I actually BELIEVE that there is a 'curse', but the fact that it's so pop culture now plants that bug into athletes heads, which may or may not affect how they play and/or if they get hurt/have poor performances.

I just simply find it to be a very odd coincidence that the athletes we see on the Madden cover tend to have some sort of blowback the following year(s).
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#20 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:26:19 PM(UTC)
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I think many athletes who have a fairly great year tend to follow it up with a less than great year ... mainly because people "figure" them out and the other team rallies around the whole "dont let him beat us!" mantra.
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#21 Posted : Friday, April 13, 2012 9:55:26 AM(UTC)
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im voting agaisnt him just to be safe
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#22 Posted : Friday, April 13, 2012 10:47:20 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vikesrule Go to Quoted Post
Now you made me feel bad...

Tell ya what, my cheese infested amigo, if Rodgers wins and is on the cover and the Madden curse comes true...I shall buy you another bottle of that fine scotch.

For having the Packers go down the shitter, 400 dollars would be the best money ever spent....beats the hell out of 250 bucks for some worthless paper, aka "Packer Stock"



bwaahaaaaa........Rolling On The Floor Laughing


You are evil! Asshole Boombutt

From the wikipedia page for "Madden Curse":
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Garrison Hearst appearing on the 1999 PAL cover was known to be the "start" of the curse, as after his appearance, he broke his ankle and was out for 2 seasons, and his performance was never the same.

After Barry Sanders' appearance on the 2000 cover, Sanders abruptly retired before training camp, falling just short of the record for most career rushing yards.

Dorsey Levens appeared on the PAL version of the 2000 game, and the Green Bay Packers, whom Levens was playing for at the time, failed to make the playoffs, and Levens was eventually released the year later.

After Eddie George appeared on the 2001 cover, the Tennessee Titans lost in Divisional round in the 2001 playoffs. Late in the 4th quarter with the Titans down 17-10, a Steve McNair pass was bobbled by George and intercepted by Ray Lewis for a touchdown, sealing the game. George also never averaged more than 3.4 yards per carry for the rest of his career.

Daunte Culpepper led the Minnesota Vikings to the playoffs in 2000, but after appearing on the Madden 2002 cover, he threw 23 interceptions as the Vikings slumped to a 5–11 record. He also broke the record for most fumbles in a single season. While his career looked to be back on track in 2004 with a career season, he blew out both knees in 2005 and 2006 and never resembled the player he was at the start of the decade.

Marshall Faulk appeared on the 2003 cover, and his career (and the success of the St. Louis Rams) severely declined afterwards. He did not register another 1,000 yard rushing season and his yards per carry average dropped from a consistent 5.4 over the previous three years to 4.5 in 2002 and 4.0 in 2003 and 2004. He started 21 out of a possible 32 games from 2002–2003 as knee injuries got the better of him. He underwent reconstructive knee surgery in 2005 and retired that same year.

After appearing on the cover of Madden NFL 2004, Michael Vick broke his fibula in a pre-season game against the Baltimore Ravens, and the Atlanta Falcons went 5-11. Years later it was discovered that he participated in an illegal dog-fighting ring and he was sent to prison.

Ray Lewis, 2005 cover athlete and middle linebacker for the Baltimore Ravens, had his season cut short in week 15 with a wrist injury. It was also Lewis' first season without an interception.

In 2006, Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb tore his ACL and meniscus in his right knee while jumping out of bounds in a game versus the Tennessee Titans, ending his season. McNabb also suffered a sports hernia in the first game of the season.

Running back Shaun Alexander, then the league’s reigning Most Valuable Player, was featured on the cover of Madden NFL 2007, and sustained a foot injury that caused him to miss six starts.[34] As a result, Alexander’s rushing statistics were substantially less than those from the previous season, and he never returned to true form.[34] Alexander himself has asked, “Do you want to be hurt and on the cover, or just hurt?"[35]

In 2007, GameSpot and CNBC reported that a large number of LaDainian Tomlinson's fans, who believed in the Madden Curse, were strongly opposed to EA Sports' initial decision to feature him on the 2008 cover, so much that a fan created SaveLTfromMadden.com to voice their disdain.[36][37][38] Tomlinson eventually declined the offer, but stated it was solely due to contract negotiations.[38]

Madden NFL 2008's cover featured Vince Young, the starting quarterback of the Tennessee Titans. Young missed one game of the 2007 season due to a minor injury, but for the rest of the season was roughly even with his 2006 performance. When Young appeared on Jimmy Kimmel Live to officially announce that he would appear on the cover of Madden NFL 2008, he derided allegations of becoming the curse’s next victim, and stated, “I've done prayed about it and we're gonna go home and try to get to the playoffs and try to get to the Super Bowl. We'll see what happens." [39][40] In contrast, Young suffered longer-term injuries in 2008 (from which he successfully came back in 2009) and 2010, which, combined with a coaching dispute, led to his departure from the Titans prior to the 2011 season.

Brett Favre appeared on the cover of Madden NFL 2009 as a Green Bay Packer, under the impression that Favre was retired. However, shortly after the decision, Favre came back out of retirement and was traded to the New York Jets, where he was plagued by poor on-field performance and an off-field sexual harassment scandal.

On September 10, 2009, Larry Fitzgerald, wide receiver for the Arizona Cardinals and safety Troy Polamalu of the Pittsburgh Steelers, were both featured on the cover of Madden NFL 10. Polamalu sprained his MCL in the first half of the season opener and missed the next four games. After returning, Polamalu played in three more games before injuring his posterior cruciate ligament on November 14, 2009 against Cincinnati, and missed more games as a result. Fitzgerald, on the other hand, started all 16 regular season and both playoff games for the Cardinals. He did not attend the Pro Bowl due to a rib injury, leaving Steve Smith of the New York Giants to take his spot in the 2010 Pro Bowl. He recorded 97 receptions (third-most of his NFL career), 1,092 yards (fourth-most), and a career-high 13 touchdowns.[41]

Madden NFL 11 cover athlete Drew Brees played in every game of the 2010 NFL Season. However, he threw twice as many interceptions (22) that season than in the Saints' 2009 Super Bowl-winning campaign (11). Also, his Quarterback Rating dropped nearly 20 points, and the Saints lost in the first round of the playoffs to the 7-9 Seattle Seahawks, the only team to date to make the playoffs with a losing record in a full-length season. He made the 2011 Pro Bowl as a reserve, after being unable to participate in the 2010 Pro Bowl, as the Saints had made the Super Bowl. Brees played 6 weeks of the NFL Season with a torn MCL, a fact that was first outed by his teammate, Heath Evans,[42] later confirmed by another teammate, Jon Stinchcomb[43] and, eventually, Brees himself.[44] More recently, Brees's team, the New Orleans Saints, were implicated in a bounty scandal. The Saints lost draft picks, and head coach Sean Payton was suspended for the 2012 NFL season. Former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams has been suspended indefinitely.

Madden NFL 12 cover athlete Peyton Hillis has missed five games in the 2011 NFL season with a hamstring injury, missed one game with strep throat, and has had his numbers decline continuously after the second week. Hillis suffered a re-injury to his hamstring during practice before week nine and his outlook to finish this season with numbers equivalent to his previous year's performance is looking bleak. In addition, his divisive behavior in the Browns locker room during the season, particularly with regards to his contentious contract negotiations, has been the subject of much media attention. It has been rumored that Hillis will leave the Browns at the end of the 2011-2012 season as a free agent.[45] When asked his significant decline, Hillis pointed towards the infamous Madden curse as a factor, saying "Things didn't work in my favor this year. There's a few things that happened this year that made me believe in curses. Ain't no doubt about it." [46]

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#23 Posted : Friday, April 13, 2012 1:16:54 PM(UTC)
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That Wikipedia information is not exactly accurate and how is it a curse to Dorsey Levens that the Packers failed to make the playoffs? Why not mention his injury instead?

I'm so confused on this. I blame the idiots at EA for using the marketing ploy of extending the Madden year one year post the season it's being released "for".

Madden 2000 was released for the '99 season, correct? If true, then check this http://www.pro-football-...m/players/L/LeveDo00.htm Why was Levens on the cover of 2000 which was just before the '99 season, thus meriting him have done something "cover" worthy in '98 ... 378 yards and 1 TD??

I repeat, I am confused here...
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#24 Posted : Friday, April 13, 2012 1:49:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
That Wikipedia information is not exactly accurate and how is it a curse to Dorsey Levens that the Packers failed to make the playoffs? Why not mention his injury instead?

I'm so confused on this. I blame the idiots at EA for using the marketing ploy of extending the Madden year one year post the season it's being released "for".

Madden 2000 was released for the '99 season, correct? If true, then check this http://www.pro-football-...m/players/L/LeveDo00.htm Why was Levens on the cover of 2000 which was just before the '99 season, thus meriting him have done something "cover" worthy in '98 ... 378 yards and 1 TD??

I repeat, I am confused here...


I don't even own a videogame console, but if I understand correctly, Madden is inaccurate as it's one year ahead. Like 2009 Madden had Brett Favre retired before he went to the Jets. We all know Favre played for the Jets in 2008 then went to the Vikings in 2009 (and made Vikesrule very happy).

Had Favre not been on the cover, he would have never gotten injured that season nor would he have texted his ding ding to that reporter.

I'm telling you, the Madden Curse is quite real.
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#25 Posted : Friday, April 13, 2012 8:34:45 PM(UTC)
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its not that hard to figure out folks.

the number in madden is the year in which superbowl for that season takes place.
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#26 Posted : Friday, April 13, 2012 10:52:32 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
its not that hard to figure out folks.

the number in madden is the year in which superbowl for that season takes place.


That wasn't the question posed nor inquired, was it? I should probably not ask that since I haven't read every post.

Either way, the question I asked was about Dorsey Levens. Maybe this response answers that too. It's 1am, gotta get to sleep, getting delirious.
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#27 Posted : Saturday, April 14, 2012 11:44:19 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
its not that hard to figure out folks.

the number in madden is the year in which superbowl for that season takes place.


My question has been answered.

You get a Slapnuts

Edited by moderator Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:00:56 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#28 Posted : Saturday, April 14, 2012 12:03:00 PM(UTC)
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Anyone else remember when it was believed to be a curse to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated?

(of course, this was back when people read print magazines, and when Sports Illustrated had real reporting more than twice a year.
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#29 Posted : Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:01:47 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: zombieslayer Go to Quoted Post
My question has been answered.

You get a Slapnuts


Lucky you! I'm still waiting for mine to be answered!!
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#30 Posted : Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:12:58 PM(UTC)
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Lucky you! I'm still waiting for mine to be answered!!


Well, it appears Levens escaped the Madden Curse then. Yes, he had a BETTER year after being on the cover of Madden. He's one of the few lucky ones.
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