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Formo  
#81 Posted : Tuesday, May 1, 2012 8:54:06 PM(UTC)
wpr said: Go to Quoted Post
If you trust politicians to do what is right you will get F-ed in the end.

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Yup.

That's not even the half of the story, either. The GOP is claiming that there will be FAR more votes with their plan and they are supposedly in caucus with Dayton, Rybak (MPLS mayor who initially stated he and MPLS wants nothing to do with the GOP's stadium bill) and DFL leaders. They are really confident that at least the Mayor will be in favor of this 'new' bill.

Strike up the band.. I told you so!
DakotaT  
#82 Posted : Wednesday, May 2, 2012 5:51:50 AM(UTC)
Formo said: Go to Quoted Post
Yup.

That's not even the half of the story, either. The GOP is claiming that there will be FAR more votes with their plan and they are supposedly in caucus with Dayton, Rybak (MPLS mayor who initially stated he and MPLS wants nothing to do with the GOP's stadium bill) and DFL leaders. They are really confident that at least the Mayor will be in favor of this 'new' bill.

Strike up the band.. I told you so!


I hope they build it downtown, because that is one hell of a good time partying for a couple days down there. You'll probably get this done in the final hour, with the help of the NFL, but the lack of planned structure for this stadium really makes your state a subject of mockery.

Anyway, I'm just glad Ziggy didn't get his way and put the stadium out in Bumbfuck Egypt where he owned everything around it. My opinion is that the Vikings should be locally owned, not an east coast millionairs little play toy.

Good luck Jeremy, we'll watch our game together in your new stadium.
Formo  
#83 Posted : Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:14:46 PM(UTC)
Sounds like more details are coming out and being hashed.. Both sides (the GOP bill makers, Gov. Dayton, MPLS, and the first bill's makers) have been saying that there is a good-faith works going into this new bill that supposedly has huge GOP support. Not quite sure what to make of this new bill as I was mostly in favor of the first one. I am upset that they continue to delay this thing that should have been taken care of years ago.

DakotaT said: Go to Quoted Post
I hope they build it downtown, because that is one hell of a good time partying for a couple days down there. You'll probably get this done in the final hour, with the help of the NFL, but the lack of planned structure for this stadium really makes your state a subject of mockery.

Anyway, I'm just glad Ziggy didn't get his way and put the stadium out in Bumbfuck Egypt where he owned everything around it. My opinion is that the Vikings should be locally owned, not an east coast millionairs little play toy.

Good luck Jeremy, we'll watch our game together in your new stadium.


Bumbfuck Egypt?! Arden Hills is a 15 minute drive, TOPS from MPLS and probably would have zero effect on drive time from the many ND Viking fans (and your dumb ass). You are right in that the state and MPLS will get more from whichever deal they may strike if it's built downtown. In my ideal world, Zigy builds it himself (no state/local money) in Arden Hills and Minnesotans learn how to tailgate.
wpr  
#84 Posted : Wednesday, May 2, 2012 8:07:58 PM(UTC)
I don't get a vote but I would have liked to see the new stadium in Arden Hills. I don't care who builds it. The have some unproductive land there. Better to build a stadium on it where people will only be there a few hours a week than to put condos or a shopping mall there where someone could spend a 100 or hours more a week. They may say that they will get all the toxic residue out of the land but I am more than a little skeptical.
Plus as Formo says more room for ancillary activities such as tailgating in Arden than downtown.
gbguy20  
#85 Posted : Wednesday, May 2, 2012 11:19:33 PM(UTC)
Arden Hills would have been a prime location for the stadium. Its on the outskirts of the city, nothing bumfuck about it.
Formo  
#86 Posted : Monday, May 7, 2012 8:34:52 PM(UTC)
The bill on the House floor, after getting nearly a record amount of amendments, passed with 73 yeses. This means it will hit the Senate floor tomorrow at 9am.

A few of the amendments are rumored to be 'deal killers' for the Vikings. I don't think they'll pass on the opportunity, though. That said, there's still a LOT of likely changes to be happening at the Senate floor and then, if passed by the Senate, will go into the conference committee to hash out the differences that may be made between the Senate and the House. Most of you probably already know this, but just in case, now you know.
wpr  
#87 Posted : Monday, May 7, 2012 8:46:45 PM(UTC)
good luck.. too bad some real @sshol I mean politicians have to screw around. Vote yes or vote no whatever you believe to be right. don't add stupid amendments that pollute the whole thing.
dfosterf  
#88 Posted : Tuesday, May 8, 2012 4:21:37 PM(UTC)
It is fun to watch Minnesota self-destruct over this. It will now be a classic "fly-over" state, and this is as it should have been all along.


Fargo was a good movie.

Appreciate the iron ore.

lol
Cheesey  
#89 Posted : Tuesday, May 8, 2012 4:44:23 PM(UTC)
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post


Appreciate the iron ore.

lol


Iron ore what????[grin1]
Dexter_Sinister  
#90 Posted : Tuesday, May 8, 2012 6:46:02 PM(UTC)
I kind of like the idea of the Arden Hills site because it was an ordinance plant. There might be some live ordinance buried around there somewhere.

I can see it now.

Paul Allen "Ponder step up under center, takes the snap. He drops back to pass and...BOOOOOM"
Formo  
#91 Posted : Tuesday, May 8, 2012 7:41:54 PM(UTC)
Senate is still doing amendments.. Will be a loong night it seems. These clowns don't know their ass from their elbows (yes, there are a very small fraction who are being reasonable).
DakotaT  
#92 Posted : Tuesday, May 8, 2012 9:02:43 PM(UTC)
Formo said: Go to Quoted Post
Senate is still doing amendments.. Will be a loong night it seems. These clowns don't know their ass from their elbows (yes, there are a very small fraction who are being reasonable).


Go to bed then and your beauty sleep.
Formo  
#93 Posted : Tuesday, May 8, 2012 9:51:49 PM(UTC)
Lick my taint, Troy. :P

That said, the Senate voted for the amended bill and voted in favor, 38-28. Needed 34 votes. The next legislation on docket is tomorrow it hits conference committee for further amendments to bridge the gap between the House version of the bill and the Senate version. Once they are finished, as early as Thursday it goes through both chambers for final votes.
gbguy20  
#94 Posted : Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:44:53 PM(UTC)
Didn't read the latest in this thread, but i just wanted to mention many of the hours the senate used tonight were spent adding amendments, then removing them. or removing amendments, and then putting them back. apparently they did that twice tonight.
Formo  
#95 Posted : Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:07:17 AM(UTC)
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
Didn't read the latest in this thread, but i just wanted to mention many of the hours the senate used tonight were spent adding amendments, then removing them. or removing amendments, and then putting them back. apparently they did that twice tonight.


They spent 10 hours doing it. I know because I watched about 5 hours of it (had to work in the middle of the debate).
Formo  
#96 Posted : Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:47:12 AM(UTC)
Formo said: Go to Quoted Post
Lick my taint, Troy. :P

That said, the Senate voted for the amended bill and voted in favor, 38-28. Needed 34 votes. The next legislation on docket is tomorrow it hits conference committee for further amendments to bridge the gap between the House version of the bill and the Senate version. Once they are finished, as early as Thursday it goes through both chambers for final votes.


I guess there's a correction... They will be wrapping up the conference committee this morning and the revised bill will start going through both chambers at 1pm. Sounds like they are really working to get this issue done BEFORE tomorrow (Thursday).
gbguy20  
#97 Posted : Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:59:44 AM(UTC)
i love to mock mn fans that the vikings are leaving

but when it comes down to it if they left i would be so lost
Cheesey  
#98 Posted : Wednesday, May 9, 2012 3:06:05 PM(UTC)
Dexter_Sinister said: Go to Quoted Post
I kind of like the idea of the Arden Hills site because it was an ordinance plant. There might be some live ordinance buried around there somewhere.

I can see it now.

Paul Allen "Ponder step up under center, takes the snap. He drops back to pass and...BOOOOOM"


That will happen either way, as the Packer linebackers get to him!
Zero2Cool  
#99 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:11:48 PM(UTC)
Mike Florio said:
Less than three weeks after the effort to build a new Vikings stadium was dead in the water, the Minnesota Legislature has given its blessing to the project.

Formo  
#100 Posted : Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:22:48 PM(UTC)
The bill, after being revised late late last night by the conference committee, was passed by the House some time late last night/early this morning and passed by the Senate this afternoon. All it needs now is to be inked by the Governor and MPLS city council must vote to ok their portion of the bill (a mock vote passed sometime last few weeks I'm told). Technically it isn't over yet, but basically all that's left is formalities. I'm still waiting for the rug to be yanked out from underneath me.. I mean, I AM a Viking fan after all.

That said, I saw this hilarious picture:

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