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Offline wpr  
#151 Posted : Saturday, May 12, 2012 5:33:08 PM(UTC)
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If Wilf was ANYTHING like you think and claim he is, he would have moved them to LA, or sold the team long before making his fight vs. the MN legislature.

Wrong again, bucky.


Wilf is not clean on this issue. Don't assume just because they are staying in MN it is because he wants to stay. I would not be surprised to learn that Goodell called him on the phone and told him not to move or he would make their life miserable.
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#152 Posted : Saturday, May 12, 2012 6:28:43 PM(UTC)
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vikesrule said: Go to Quoted Post
That is some seriously funny shit from someone that just got "legally scammed" to fork over $275 to the Packers for what is essentially a non-tax deductible donation and that piece of paper that is less than worthless.



It is most amusing that two things had to come into play for this scam to happen.

1. The Green Packers are exempt from the rule that applies to all other 31 teams.
2. The Green Bay Packers have the only fan base stupid enough to fall for this scam.

Green Bay Packers: "Hey, what do all you fans think about giving us $275 each and in return we give you nothing?
Billy-Bob DakotaT: "Whoooee, I'm a gonna let you have my money for nothin'......that's a gonna be awesome"
Green Bay Packers: <snicker, snicker>"Dumbass"


Packers fans know it's worthless. They know they will get nothing in return. Yet they still donate, because they support their team. Maybe you're just mad that as a Minnesotan you don't have a choice whether to donate some cash to the team, your government decides for you.
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#153 Posted : Saturday, May 12, 2012 7:09:24 PM(UTC)
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We won't have to wait 30 years for me to find out if I am right. I am right, right now. Take it to the bank.

I did not bother to see how long the lease was. I figured it would be 30 years. Wilf will sell within 10 years. FACT.


lol

There are stipulations in the bill that says the state will get a nice percentage of the sale of the team if it is sold before the lease is over.

We'll see old man.
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#154 Posted : Saturday, May 12, 2012 7:13:42 PM(UTC)
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Wilf is not clean on this issue. Don't assume just because they are staying in MN it is because he wants to stay. I would not be surprised to learn that Goodell called him on the phone and told him not to move or he would make their life miserable.


It's more financially SMART to stay.. WTF would he want to leave?! Once you get past your preconceived notions you will be able to accurately seek truth.

I'm not saying Wilf is a saint.. but he certainly went above and beyond with the MN legislature. And that's more than good enough for me.
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#155 Posted : Saturday, May 12, 2012 7:19:00 PM(UTC)
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Blog from Seifert at ESPN (and for those of you who don't remember/didn't know, he used to cover the Vikings prior to getting the ESPN gig): http://espn.go.com/blog/...etract-or-not-to-retract

Another article from Seifert on Wilf's history in MN: http://espn.go.com/blog/...ygi-wilf-saves-franchise
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#156 Posted : Saturday, May 12, 2012 8:28:20 PM(UTC)
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Blog from Seifert at ESPN (and for those of you who don't remember/didn't know, he used to cover the Vikings prior to getting the ESPN gig): http://espn.go.com/blog/...etract-or-not-to-retract

Another article from Seifert on Wilf's history in MN: http://espn.go.com/blog/...ygi-wilf-saves-franchise


Yeah we remember Siefert gets himself all buttered up when ever the vikings are around.
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#157 Posted : Saturday, May 12, 2012 8:30:32 PM(UTC)
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It's about $433 for the certificate, once you have it properly framed.

I pop my garage door, whip out my chair, crack a beer, look at my big-screen- surrounded by sports memorobilia in a subtle green, white and yellow trimmed background... pendant lights, tools organized, but a little bit of "clash", due to the "13 Time World champion" flag against that so-subtle "pine" type green wall, (coupled with the WW1 Marine Corps poster...it works).

I reflect on how life is good, how lucky life's circumstances got me to be a Green Bay Packers fan, how fun that is to be, and wonder why anyone would possibly be anything else, all things considered. I also am a big fan of Lexus automobiles, John Deere lawn equipment, and Echo string-trimmers. I like good shit- as I define it on a personal level- The Pack is good shit, imo.

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#158 Posted : Saturday, May 12, 2012 8:45:20 PM(UTC)
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lol

There are stipulations in the bill that says the state will get a nice percentage of the sale of the team if it is sold before the lease is over.

We'll see old man.


yep we will see. Just as an example he bought them for $600 million and can sell them for $1.5 billion in 10 years. (In 2009 they were valued at $835 million by Forbes. Good enough for 31st place out of 32 franchises.)

Let's say the State gets 3 or even 10% just to put a number to it, he would do the deal.

Why would he deal? many possibilities. Maybe he needs the cash to finance something. In 10 year he will be 72. Maybe he wants to retire and move back to Germany. Maybe his real estate is tanking and he needs the cash to keep something else afloat. bottom line is it doesn't matter what the reason is he will sell.
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I struggle to gather what pisses off vikesrule more ... Packers fans shelling out a couple hundred plus dollars for a piece of paper, or only getting to see his idol, err Brett Favre in the Vikings scrubs for two seasons.

I wouldn't be surprised if fans spend $200 on their team every year ... not sure why this is any different. There's no monetary value to a hoodie or jacket or jersey or anything like that ... you can't write that off on taxes, can you?
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#160 Posted : Saturday, May 12, 2012 10:30:35 PM(UTC)
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yep we will see. Just as an example he bought them for $600 million and can sell them for $1.5 billion in 10 years. (In 2009 they were valued at $835 million by Forbes. Good enough for 31st place out of 32 franchises.)

Let's say the State gets 3 or even 10% just to put a number to it, he would do the deal.

Why would he deal? many possibilities. Maybe he needs the cash to finance something. In 10 year he will be 72. Maybe he wants to retire and move back to Germany. Maybe his real estate is tanking and he needs the cash to keep something else afloat. bottom line is it doesn't matter what the reason is he will sell.


25% in the first 10 years of the lease. 15% in years 11-15. 10% in years 16-20. Also, the first 5 years the Vikings ownership group can also bring/buy a MLS team. Which is another reason why they are seriously looking at a retractable roof.
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