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Offline Zero2Cool  
#161 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2012 7:13:01 AM(UTC)
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25% in the first 10 years of the lease. 15% in years 11-15. 10% in years 16-20. Also, the first 5 years the Vikings ownership group can also bring/buy a MLS team. Which is another reason why they are seriously looking at a retractable roof.


So it takes a Major League Soccer team for them to consider a retractable roof? More proof that Minnesota doesn't have a National Football League team.

Football, American Football should played outdoors, in the elements. So damn lame to play in a cozy little dome or indoor stadium or whatever flippid sissy name you have for it.

Detroit had a chance to fix their sissification and failed. Minnesota will fail too.

Economically, I think both Detroit and Minnesota should have retractable roofs for the venue to be used for concerts or whatever during the winter months BUT by rule the roof must be open during ALL NFL games!

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#162 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2012 11:07:48 AM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
So it takes a Major League Soccer team for them to consider a retractable roof? More proof that Minnesota doesn't have a National Football League team.


Taken posts out of context. It's ONE of the reasons they are seriously considering it.

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Football, American Football should played outdoors, in the elements. So damn lame to play in a cozy little dome or indoor stadium or whatever flippid sissy name you have for it.

Detroit had a chance to fix their sissification and failed. Minnesota will fail too.

Economically, I think both Detroit and Minnesota should have retractable roofs for the venue to be used for concerts or whatever during the winter months BUT by rule the roof must be open during ALL NFL games!



I agree 100%. If I had any control over this issue, I would build a retractable roof and have it in contract stating EXACTLY what your last sentence says (with the exception of the SuperBowl... but that's an NFL rule, not a stadium's rule).
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#163 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2012 11:26:24 AM(UTC)
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That was my intent! :P
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Taken posts out of context. It's ONE of the reasons they are seriously considering it.



I agree 100%. If I had any control over this issue, I would build a retractable roof and have it in contract stating EXACTLY what your last sentence says (with the exception of the SuperBowl... but that's an NFL rule, not a stadium's rule).


Ugh, I hate it when you agree with me! It makes me feel all dirty and stuff!! I suppose with the half time debacles I can understand the close roof deal for the Super Bowl. Although, I think if it's not hailing or blizzard the roof should be open.

I know the Packers are a soft team and dominate in the 'dome' or 'indoor stadium', but football is just better outside with the sky visible. (yes, the Packers averaged 40+ points at home last season I am aware)
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#164 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2012 1:11:30 PM(UTC)
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.... (yes, the Packers averaged 40+ points at home last season I am aware)


Not quite bucko.

The Packers averaged 37.88 points per game at home last season.

You seem to have forgotten to add in that last "little game" at Lambeau on January 15th.


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#165 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2012 1:28:35 PM(UTC)
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Not quite bucko.

The Packers averaged 37.88 points per game at home last season.

You seem to have forgotten to add in that last "little game" at Lambeau on January 15th.


:-"


Eh? I thought I put regular season, oh well. Any non-half-twat knows what I'm talking about. ;)


That playoff game wasn't little, although, the Packers played the game as if they had it won by simply rolling their helmets on the grass. Idiots.
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#166 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:01:03 PM(UTC)
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While I am extremely pleased that this has been passed and the Vikings should be staying put, I still find it as silly as hell that the U of M and the Vikings didn't share the facility and minimize the overall cost to the state as a whole.

I guess it is just a sign of current Americana... indulge our hearts out no matter the cost. What the two facilities are what 10,000 feet apart from each other.
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#167 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:04:27 PM(UTC)
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While I am extremely pleased that this has been passed and the Vikings should be staying put, I still find it as silly as hell that the U of M and the Vikings didn't share the facility and minimize the overall cost to the state as a whole.

I guess it is just a sign of current Americana... indulge our hearts out no matter the cost. What the two facilities are what 10,000 feet apart from each other.


I just shake my head when they say that college ball and pro ball can't be played in the same stadium because of luxury suite conflicts. bull.
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#168 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:33:06 PM(UTC)
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While I am extremely pleased that this has been passed and the Vikings should be staying put, I still find it as silly as hell that the U of M and the Vikings didn't share the facility and minimize the overall cost to the state as a whole.

I guess it is just a sign of current Americana... indulge our hearts out no matter the cost. What the two facilities are what 10,000 feet apart from each other.


If you're saying they should have made TCF stadium larger to handle the vast occupants of the Vikings fans opponents when they constructed it a few years ago, I agree. But using the new stadium for both wouldn't make much sense since TCF isn't even five years old yet.

Personally, they should just use the TCF stadium in my opinion. It's there, it's "paid" for and as if the Vikings will ever need 60,000 seats anyway, other than when they play the Packers. :)
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#169 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:59:26 PM(UTC)
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While I am extremely pleased that this has been passed and the Vikings should be staying put, I still find it as silly as hell that the U of M and the Vikings didn't share the facility and minimize the overall cost to the state as a whole.

I guess it is just a sign of current Americana... indulge our hearts out no matter the cost. What the two facilities are what 10,000 feet apart from each other.


Tried that once. It failed. Hard.

Love that there will be 3 new stadiums in town (4 if you consider the X's 10+ years as 'new'). It just adds to the dynamics of the Twin Cities' awesomeness.

Not that any of you would understand, anyway.
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#170 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:21:26 PM(UTC)
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Tried that once. It failed. Hard.

Love that there will be 3 new stadiums in town (4 if you consider the X's 10+ years as 'new'). It just adds to the dynamics of the Twin Cities' awesomeness.

Not that any of you would understand, anyway.



On the two coasts we saw the movie Fargo. That is Minneapolis, to most. Most are morons, but they are the most.

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