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Offline PackerTraxx  
#71 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:11:54 AM(UTC)
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A couple of good things, if the opposing team blitzes the screen should work well. If he is not a good blocker they could run him as a safety valve. I'm hoping he/Pack can do it all. Green has good size he should be able to block decently.
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#72 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:23:02 AM(UTC)
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nerdmann and Traxx, I can see him being a big part of our O as a receiver out of the backfield. Definitely.

Unfortunately, I think the screens are becoming a thing of the past. Most defenders over the last 6-7 yrs or so have gotten so keen on sniffing them out, that you hardly see them anymore. We used to be one of the best screen play teams back in the Holmgren era. I think that started to die out towards the end of the Sherman era. Now, you rarely even see them called, and when you do, they are rarely as successful as they used to be.

That said, Green was drafted for his ability to catch the ball and move the chains. I'm sure they'll find a way to get him involved if he stays healthy. I'm right with you, that it will be great to see.

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#73 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:19:14 PM(UTC)
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Debating whether to jump into this topic again full tilt?

Lets just put it this way.. the pros of having a strong running game to accompany an elite passing game like ours currently far outweigh the cons ten fold.. not to mention preserving the longevity of Rodgers career.

Do I want to see more running the ball?

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More like demand it.

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#74 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:09:35 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
nerdmann and Traxx, I can see him being a big part of our O as a receiver out of the backfield. Definitely.

Unfortunately, I think the screens are becoming a thing of the past. Most defenders over the last 6-7 yrs or so have gotten so keen on sniffing them out, that you hardly see them anymore. We used to be one of the best screen play teams back in the Holmgren era. I think that started to die out towards the end of the Sherman era. Now, you rarely even see them called, and when you do, they are rarely as successful as they used to be.

That said, Green was drafted for his ability to catch the ball and move the chains. I'm sure they'll find a way to get him involved if he stays healthy. I'm right with you, that it will be great to see.



Sherman didn't run the WCO. They had a power running game and medium to deep passing.
Mike McCarthy hasn't focused on screens, because we haven't had guys with that skill set. Imo, that's one of the reasons they drafted a guy like Green. Screens slow down the rush and are important misdirection play.
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#75 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 7:21:43 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Sherman didn't run the WCO. They had a power running game and medium to deep passing.

Mike McCarthy hasn't focused on screens, because we haven't had guys with that skill set. Imo, that's one of the reasons they drafted a guy like Green. Screens slow down the rush and are important misdirection play.


I agree they are great plays, but I think that they've become less and less successful recently, as DL have become very adept at sniffing them out. League wide. That's my thinking anyway. Do I miss seeing more of them? Hell yeah. Maybe we see more with Green out of the backfield.
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#76 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 10:18:24 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: play2win Go to Quoted Post
nerdmann and Traxx, I can see him being a big part of our O as a receiver out of the backfield. Definitely.

Unfortunately, I think the screens are becoming a thing of the past. Most defenders over the last 6-7 yrs or so have gotten so keen on sniffing them out, that you hardly see them anymore. We used to be one of the best screen play teams back in the Holmgren era. I think that started to die out towards the end of the Sherman era. Now, you rarely even see them called, and when you do, they are rarely as successful as they used to be.

That said, Green was drafted for his ability to catch the ball and move the chains. I'm sure they'll find a way to get him involved if he stays healthy. I'm right with you, that it will be great to see.



They most definitely are not becoming unsuccessful. If you watched the saints all of last year you would realize this. They of course liked to throw the big bombs down field but as soon as teams would try to defend that they'd throw a screen out and gain about 15-20 yards right quick.
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#77 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 1:39:20 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
Debating whether to jump into this topic again full tilt?

Lets just put it this way.. the pros of having a strong running game to accompany an elite passing game like ours currently far outweigh the cons ten fold.. not to mention preserving the longevity of Rodgers career.

Do I want to see more running the ball?

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More like demand it.

Winning football games is about more than scoring points..


Bah.

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#78 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 1:50:33 PM(UTC)
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The only reason the Packers didn't win a 2nd straight Super Bowl can be directly related to the lack of having a 1,000 rusher at the running back position. We all have agreed upon this already.
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#79 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 2:09:23 PM(UTC)
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The only reason the Packers didn't win a 2nd straight Super Bowl can be directly related to the lack of having a 1,000 rusher at the running back position. We all have agreed upon this already.


oh. thanks for letting me know. I missed the memo. I must have called in sick that day.
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#80 Posted : Monday, May 21, 2012 2:51:05 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
oh. thanks for letting me know. I missed the memo. I must have called in sick that day.


You sir are welcome. I do what I can when I can.
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