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Offline dyeah_gb  
#16 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2012 6:36:39 PM(UTC)
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I wouldn't bother trying to debate with either Dakotat or Vikesrule. Having a discussion with an insane lib on politics won't get anyone anywhere. You will gain as much knowledge speculating on the consistency of yogurt on the surface of the sun.

I will now contradict myself and at least responds to the extremely poor taste of calling Ryan a Neo Nazi.. Oddly, if you looked at the beliefs of the Nazi party, they map much more directly to the philosophy of Obama and his supporters than anyone that believes in capitalism and the constitution. But don't let that stop libs from their crazy ramblings. Press on full speed ahead.

Anyways the point of the thread is that I think Wisconsin is going R^2 because Ryan is a Packer fan. A vote for Obama is a vote for the Bears.

The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman
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Offline Porforis  
#17 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2012 6:42:14 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb Go to Quoted Post
A vote for Obama is a vote for the Bears.


Now THAT'S shallow partisan crap I can stand behind!
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#18 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2012 7:02:42 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb Go to Quoted Post
I wouldn't bother trying to debate with either Dakotat or Vikesrule. Having a discussion with an insane lib on politics won't get anyone anywhere. You will gain as much knowledge speculating on the consistency of yogurt on the surface of the sun.

I will now contradict myself and at least responds to the extremely poor taste of calling Ryan a Neo Nazi.. Oddly, if you looked at the beliefs of the Nazi party, they map much more directly to the philosophy of Obama and his supporters than anyone that believes in capitalism and the constitution. But don't let that stop libs from their crazy ramblings. Press on full speed ahead.

Anyways the point of the thread is that I think Wisconsin is going R^2 because Ryan is a Packer fan. A vote for Obama is a vote for the Bears.



Communism - Socialism - Sane people/moderates - Tea Party - Fascism

That is the political spectrum my foolish friends. Now, how on earth can Obama be a socialist one day and Hitler the next? The answer is that you foolish people listen to Rush and Fox News too much. They give you the social agenda you want, get your vote, and then steal you blind. But by all means, carry on until you learn something.
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#19 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2012 7:10:31 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Porforis Go to Quoted Post
Yes, why don't we just break down our political discussions to calling people on the right Nazis and people on the left Communists. I really try to be civil here, but you sir, are a moron. Once Ryan's gassed a few million Jews, you can come back and make an ass out of yourself again.


Oh but it's okay for the right to be smearing Barry for four years, led by the Nazis Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, and John Behner. Obstructionism is really American isn't it. What a bunch of crybaby pussies that lost, and guess what? They're going to lose again. Having the Supreme Court justice go traitor and officially legalize Romneycare was the icing on top. What a kick in the nutz for the Neocons. It was beautiful.

No president has ever been treated with such blatent disrespect as Barry, not even Curious George.

Oh and another thing Porforis, you are anything but civil to me - so spare me the outrage and defend your position.
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Offline dyeah_gb  
#20 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2012 7:12:39 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Communism - Socialism - Sane people/moderates - Tea Party - Fascism

That is the political spectrum my foolish friends. Now, how on earth can Obama be a socialist one day and Hitler the next? The answer is that you foolish people listen to Rush and Fox News too much. They give you the social agenda you want, get your vote, and then steal you blind. But by all means, carry on until you learn something.


The difference between your perspective and mine is that you focus on superficial labels and completely disregard definitions.

From Wikipedia:
Fascism advocates a state-controlled and regulated mixed economy; the principal economic goal of fascism is to achieve national autarky to secure national independence, through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.[21]

Current lib action of facism: Obama and his cabinets took over GM and illegally ignored compensation for non-union pensions. He now has publicly stated that he wants to extend his approach with GM to other industries.

I think Obama would make Mussolini proud.

Anyways if you want to be a Bears fan go right ahead DakotaT.

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#21 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2012 7:22:36 PM(UTC)
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Honestly, at this point I think he's just trolling. Move along.
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#22 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2012 7:48:07 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Well I don't know how much farther right you can be than Paul Ryan without being a Nazi. And I call him Mittens because he's real soft - kind of like not a real man. The guy wouldn't know a hard days labor.

If one of you right wing boys would kindly explain to me how Mittens can have a cake eater life, dodge the draft, and then be all for continuing to send our boys off to war so that blood money can keep rolling in to stockholders. And the kicker is he will find every out there is to shelter money and not pay taxes. What is redeaming about this man, that you sheep will line up to vote for?


You have 2 or 3 frail one-liners that aren't even accurate. Give it up old man.

BTW, Romney = Obama as far as their policies go. They just barely lean opposite directions. Both run by your corporate CEO friends. It's too bad you can't see past your own rage to do any sort of research for yourself.

You fascist. If you can call names.. well then mother f*cka.. So can I. >_<
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#23 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2012 8:24:10 PM(UTC)
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You have 2 or 3 frail one-liners that aren't even accurate. Give it up old man.

BTW, Romney = Obama as far as their policies go. They just barely lean opposite directions. Both run by your corporate CEO friends. It's too bad you can't see past your own rage to do any sort of research for yourself.

You fascist. If you can call names.. well then mother f*cka.. So can I. >_<


I don't know why I get lumped into this liberal label. I just can't stand what has happened to the Republican party, in fact I'm disgusted by it. That doesn't mean I'm an instant tree hugger. I didn't vote for Barry in 2008 and I'm not in 2012.

Romney and Ryan are silver spooned boys that want to play leaders. I don't respect them and can't understand for the life of me why some of you struggling along in life think you have something in common with these boys, and what's laughable is that you defend them like they'd give a shit about you. But by all means, vote for the candidate with the R behind his name.

I like how Ryan had to shitcan his love fest for the philosophy of Ayn Rand so that he could look more favorable to Christians. Sorry Little Paul, the teachings of Ayn Rand would be the antithesis of the teachings of Christ, and you still deeply believe in Ayn Rand.
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#24 Posted : Monday, August 13, 2012 9:03:36 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Formo Go to Quoted Post


BTW, Romney = Obama as far as their policies go. They just barely lean opposite directions.


This gets a +1. Their policies are too close to tell them apart. If you're gonna vote for either of them, you might as well vote on who has the coolest and/or best-looking wife. Their policies will be the same.

I'm voting for Wade. If he was Pres, he'd bring babes back to the White House. That's something that's been missing since JFK.
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Offline Porforis  
#25 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2012 6:19:45 AM(UTC)
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The difference between Obama and Romney is the difference between the Republican Party as a whole and the Democratic Party as a whole. Democrats worship government and pretend to care about the little guy while lining the pockets of the big guys, Republicans pretend to worship the free market and conservative ideals, while using the very liberal approach of using government as a hammer to produce changes, rather than truly getting government out of the way or at least empower the states rather than consolidating power in the federal government.

On the surface, Obama and Romney are very different and have very different visions for America. When you get down to the nuts and bolts, the only differences between them are some social issues (like gay marriage) and whether we're letting corporations or unions and government screw the taxpayer.

Spread the word to your friends and family - If you're sick of the politicians you're getting, and you wish someone would pay attention to what the people want rather than what the rich and powerful want... USE YOUR VOTE. Voting for the lesser of two evils just tells both parties that they can get your vote if they suck just slightly less than the other guy.
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#26 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:00:48 PM(UTC)
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Ahhh ... another political thread to stir on emotionally charged posts.. not my cup of tea.

At the end of the day.. with as much rhetoric that is thrown around by the candidates.. can you really buy into either for the next president? Toss a blanket over them.. neither are in it for the common citizen of the United States.

Slay the Obama care.. really.. how much different is it from the Romney's answer? Other than it is more slanted towards the businesses than the individual. How republican of him. :)

http://www.diffen.com/di.../Obamacare_vs_Romneycare
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I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#27 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:06:44 PM(UTC)
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BTW.. a reference site in general.. seems to lack much of the bias one way or the other.

http://www.diffen.com/di...ack_Obama_vs_Mitt_Romney

This is if you can really believe a word the comes out of either candidates mouth or team of PR reps.

Pick the hot button topic of the day and spin that thing into the prettiest weave you can possible make it appear to be.

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I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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#28 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:25:55 PM(UTC)
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I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline porky88  
#29 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:58:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Porforis Go to Quoted Post
I wasn't aware that tax knowledge was important in determining whether someone's a neonazi or not, or that Mitt Romney is a m... m...

What's that M word you used for Romney? I'm sorry, I just can't type it out.

Do you not like moderate candidates? I only ask this because there's a huge backlash within the Republican party about moderates.
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:18:16 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
I don't know why I get lumped into this liberal label.


What liberal label? I didn't even use that word in my satirical post.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
I just can't stand what has happened to the Republican party, in fact I'm disgusted by it. That doesn't mean I'm an instant tree hugger. I didn't vote for Barry in 2008 and I'm not in 2012.


I agree with your first sentence.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
Romney and Ryan are silver spooned boys that want to play leaders. I don't respect them and can't understand for the life of me why some of you struggling along in life think you have something in common with these boys, and what's laughable is that you defend them like they'd give a shit about you. But by all means, vote for the candidate with the R behind his name.


I'm assuming you aren't directing this statement at me.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
I like how Ryan had to shitcan his love fest for the philosophy of Ayn Rand so that he could look more favorable to Christians. Sorry Little Paul, the teachings of Ayn Rand would be the antithesis of the teachings of Christ, and you still deeply believe in Ayn Rand.


Completely not true.
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