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Offline Pack93z  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 5, 2012 1:36:30 PM(UTC)

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The discussion over Jennings possible last year in GB, spurred me to look at guys that might let go to make room.

Right off the top of my head, I picked three guys that might find replaceable, opening large chunks of money that can be moved towards the big four everyone points to as the priority.

First blush, I don't know that it is dire as many make it out to be. If Smith steps up as well as I think he will, it could make either Hawk or Bishop expendable. If the young safeties step up, it might prompt the Packers to look at Woodson's contract. We have a decent core of depth at Tight End, Finley is making huge jack and can't stay healthy.

Point being, there are options if they need them.

AJ Hawk

Code:

        	BASE SALARY	S. BONUS	MISC. BONUS	CAP HIT
2013	 4,900,000	 1,600,000	 550,000	7,050,000
2014	 4,900,000	 1,600,000	 1,050,000	7,550,000
2015	 5,400,000	 1,600,000	 1,050,000	8,050,000
2016	 UFA
Signing Bonus: $8 million
Workout Bonus: $250,000
Roster Bonus (2011): $1.8 million
Roster Bonus (2012-2013): $300,000
Roster Bonus: (2014-2015): $800,000



Charles Woodson

Code:

2013	 6,500,000	 -	 3,500,000	10,000,000
2014	 6,500,000	 -	 3,500,000	10,000,000
2015	 UFA
2010 Game Bonus: $900,000
2011 Roster Bonus: $2.05 million
2011 Incentive: $937,500
2012 Roster Bonus: $4 million
2012 Incentive: $937,500
2012 Incentive: $125,500
2013-14 Game Bonus: $1 million
2013-14 Roster Bonus: $2.5 million


Jermichael Finley

Code:

2013	 4,450,000	 500,000	 3,800,000	8,750,000
2014	 UFA
Incentives: $1 million
Signing Bonus :$1 milion
Annual Roster Bonus: $3.5 million
Annual Workout Bonus: $300,000 


Desmond Bishop
Code:

2013	 3,464,000	 1,000,000	 500,000	4,964,000
2014	 3,522,000	 1,000,000	 500,000	5,022,000
2015	 UFA
Signing Bonus: $4 million
2011 Roster Bonus: $1 million
2011-12 Incentive: $24,375
2013-14 Incentive: $300,000
Annual Workout Bonus: $200,000
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 5, 2012 1:58:55 PM(UTC)

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Cut Hawk
Rework Woodson

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 5, 2012 2:48:37 PM(UTC)

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Ryan Picket
Donald Driver
James Jones

A few more players that might be replaced with cheaper/younger alternatives next year. Would I take Jennings over DD and JJ next year? Without a doubt.

Raji's money probably comes from cutting in Picket 2013/letting him walk as a FA in 2014, in all actuality. Age/injuries aren't going to do him any favors.

Mathews... Not sure where his money comes from, and it will likely be a lot.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, September 5, 2012 2:55:41 PM(UTC)

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I keep hearing things about James Jones being shopped. Latest was that Miami was interested, which could work out with Philbin over there. Driver retires, Hawk moves on, Bishop resigns for less due to being injury-prone or is gone. Finley and C-Wood are the big question marks. Woodson is getting old(er) and Finley has underproduced unless he has a breakout year.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, September 5, 2012 3:33:04 PM(UTC)

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The choice might come down to Finley vs Jennings too, if Finley breaks out as a top 3 TE, loosing Jennings will be less of a blow. If Jennings is resigned, any chance Finley has at a big money long term contract in GB is likely out the window.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, September 5, 2012 4:00:43 PM(UTC)

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Yup, and Jones isn't going anywhere now that we'll lose one of the two (Jennings or Finley).
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, September 5, 2012 4:11:18 PM(UTC)

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Another option is to franchise tag Jennings.

He wouldn't like that, but it may be a way of keeping everyone together another year.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, September 5, 2012 4:29:59 PM(UTC)

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macbob said: Go to Quoted Post
Another option is to franchise tag Jennings.

He wouldn't like that, but it may be a way of keeping everyone together another year.

This is the most likely scenario for a two legitimate reasons.

First, it extends the amount of time the Packers have to reach a long-term contract. Second, it allows the Packers to shop Jennings for a draft pick. Both scenarios are plausible.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, September 5, 2012 4:36:36 PM(UTC)

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Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
The discussion over Jennings possible last year in GB, spurred me to look at guys that might let go to make room.

Right off the top of my head, I picked three guys that might find replaceable, opening large chunks of money that can be moved towards the big four everyone points to as the priority.

First blush, I don't know that it is dire as many make it out to be. If Smith steps up as well as I think he will, it could make either Hawk or Bishop expendable. If the young safeties step up, it might prompt the Packers to look at Woodson's contract. We have a decent core of depth at Tight End, Finley is making huge jack and can't stay healthy.

Point being, there are options if they need them.

AJ Hawk

Code:

        	BASE SALARY	S. BONUS	MISC. BONUS	CAP HIT
2013	 4,900,000	 1,600,000	 550,000	7,050,000
2014	 4,900,000	 1,600,000	 1,050,000	7,550,000
2015	 5,400,000	 1,600,000	 1,050,000	8,050,000
2016	 UFA
Signing Bonus: $8 million
Workout Bonus: $250,000
Roster Bonus (2011): $1.8 million
Roster Bonus (2012-2013): $300,000
Roster Bonus: (2014-2015): $800,000



Charles Woodson

Code:

2013	 6,500,000	 -	 3,500,000	10,000,000
2014	 6,500,000	 -	 3,500,000	10,000,000
2015	 UFA
2010 Game Bonus: $900,000
2011 Roster Bonus: $2.05 million
2011 Incentive: $937,500
2012 Roster Bonus: $4 million
2012 Incentive: $937,500
2012 Incentive: $125,500
2013-14 Game Bonus: $1 million
2013-14 Roster Bonus: $2.5 million


Jermichael Finley

Code:

2013	 4,450,000	 500,000	 3,800,000	8,750,000
2014	 UFA
Incentives: $1 million
Signing Bonus :$1 milion
Annual Roster Bonus: $3.5 million
Annual Workout Bonus: $300,000 


Desmond Bishop
Code:

2013	 3,464,000	 1,000,000	 500,000	4,964,000
2014	 3,522,000	 1,000,000	 500,000	5,022,000
2015	 UFA
Signing Bonus: $4 million
2011 Roster Bonus: $1 million
2011-12 Incentive: $24,375
2013-14 Incentive: $300,000
Annual Workout Bonus: $200,000


AJ Hawk's numbers surprised me. I thought we had cut him and resigned him to a more manageable amount than that.

If those are Hawk's numbers I think he needs to be gone if Bishop comes back healthy. I like him but I want to keep as many of the Rodgers, Jennings, Matthews and Raji group as possible.

I looked on that site you were using and Driver's number is supposedly $2.3M. That's not so much but if/when he's replaced by a young gun next year we're going to get just that much more wriggle room.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, September 5, 2012 6:52:33 PM(UTC)

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earthquake said: Go to Quoted Post
The choice might come down to Finley vs Jennings too, if Finley breaks out as a top 3 TE, loosing Jennings will be less of a blow. If Jennings is resigned, any chance Finley has at a big money long term contract in GB is likely out the window.


We have to find a way to keep both. I've said several times that Jennings is not an elite receiver. What he is though is a superb, precise route runner; and in this offense, that may be more important.

Finley is just flat out talented, but needs to put away his arrogance and play football. Everything else should then fall into place.

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, September 5, 2012 9:08:41 PM(UTC)

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The cap will stagnate for a year or two, but then start going up again. Keep that in mind. As we go, there will be more space.

The player union reps wanted to look like they got a better settlement, so they in essence borrowed against the next couple years of cap expansion to make themselves look good. So the cap is stagnating a bit, but that won't always be the case.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, September 6, 2012 5:11:32 AM(UTC)

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I've seen this team play without Jennings, and I don't like it. Finley Schminley...Jennings shouldn't be going nowhere anytime soon, imo.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, September 6, 2012 5:17:11 AM(UTC)

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LambeauEast said: Go to Quoted Post
I've seen this team play without Jennings, and I don't like it. Finley Schminley...Jennings shouldn't be going nowhere anytime soon, imo.


Packers played pretty good without Greg Jennings. Jordy Nelson stepped up.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, September 6, 2012 5:24:40 AM(UTC)

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Packers played pretty good without Greg Jennings. Jordy Nelson stepped up.


My bad, I thought for sure that they sucked balls without Jennings...I'm okay with being wrong. IMO of course.

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#15 Posted : Thursday, September 6, 2012 5:37:26 AM(UTC)

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LambeauEast said: Go to Quoted Post
My bad, I thought for sure that they sucked balls without Jennings...I'm okay with being wrong. IMO of course.



I think Greg Jennings missed the Chiefs game, but I think the defense cost the Packers the game more than missing one WR, lol.
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