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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Thursday, September 6, 2012 6:27:43 AM(UTC)
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Who do you WANT to be the starting cornerback alongside Tramon Williams?

I'm not too comfortable with either, but I'd have to go with Sam Shields because of his big play making ability and also if he gets burned he has the speed to compensate for it.
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Sheilds, Bush never seems to turn around and make a play on the ball, even though he is often in position to do so. It drives me nuts.
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I'm still really surprised Bush didn't work out better as a safety/SS. It just seems like it would suit him better, imo. Obviously I'm wrong, though.

Otherwise, I'd want Shields, especially the Shields of 2010 and 2012 preseason game 4.
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I'm not a big fan of either one but if I had to pick between those 2 I'd pick Shields based on speed and I believe better ball awareness.
Hopefully he has learned how to tackle!
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I will take anyone that can get the job done.. personally, if he keeps progressing, I will take Hayward by the middle of the season.

Anyway.. for this coming weekend.. I think in passing downs, with the number of receivers the 49er's have (5 # 1's, lol) we are going to see a ton of dime coverage.. so we are going to get healthy doses of both Bush and Shields.

Shields, with his head right, is a better cover corner than Bush. IMO.
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Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
I will take anyone that can get the job done.. personally, if he keeps progressing, I will take Hayward by the middle of the season.


Wait, Hayward? I don't recall him being discussed here? Me and my damn thread title typo's! Thanks for pointing this out!!!!

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Shields is better in coverage. Bush is a better tackler. So running plays, Bush. Passing plays, Shields.
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zombieslayer said: Go to Quoted Post
Shields is better in coverage. Bush is a better tackler. So running plays, Bush. Passing plays, Shields.


That was my troubling point between the two. Bush is better at tackling, but Shields is better in coverage. I give the edge to Shields because I think he has the speed to correct some of his deficiencies.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, September 6, 2012 8:20:32 AM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Wait, Hayward? I don't recall him being discussed here? Me and my damn thread title typo's! Thanks for pointing this out!!!!

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Ahhh...

Zero2Cool said:
Who do you WANT to be the starting cornerback alongside Tramon Williams?


So I answered.. but I also followed up with my choice between the two within the thread title.

2 birds.. 1 stone. [grin1]
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#10 Posted : Thursday, September 6, 2012 8:25:52 AM(UTC)
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Could Jarrett Bush guard Michael Crabtree or Mario Manningham? I don't think he can. I think Sam Shields could at least keep up with them and make game changing plays. I think Bush is better suited to guard TE's and more physical WR's. I don't like the idea of putting him in to help with the run defense because that's when play action deep balls come into play and if we're relying on DB's to stop the run we aren't doing a good job anyway.
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