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Offline tromadz  
#51 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:14:23 PM(UTC)
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How are we feeling tonight now?

The Packers defense just put a beating on Cutler and the Bears.

Do we still want Capers fired? I was one of those people.

Did I jump the gun? I'm not sure. I probably was. I hope he turns the defense around and everything but I dunno. Hopefully we all look foolish during this year's Superbowl when we look back and think about how we even considered it as fans.

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#52 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:23:56 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: tromadz Go to Quoted Post
How are we feeling tonight now?

The Packers defense just put a beating on Cutler and the Bears.

Do we still want Capers fired? I was one of those people.

Did I jump the gun? I'm not sure. I probably was. I hope he turns the defense around and everything but I dunno. Hopefully we all look foolish during this year's Superbowl when we look back and think about how we even considered it as fans.



Defense stepped up overall. I think calling for the firing of Capers was a tad too soon. Plenty of games left though.

Great calls against the Bears. Found the weakness and easily exploited it.

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#53 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:30:55 PM(UTC)
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I said I'll give him half a season. He was elite in 2010 and awful in 2011. The first game of 2012, he was awful. Elite the 2nd game of 2012. He had his team mean and nasty. Did anyone else notice that CM3's sacks were more vicious against Cutler than Smith? Also, CM3's Predator was nastier against Cutler than Smith. Yes, this does matter. I'm all for getting inside the opposing QB's head. Psychology is TOTALLY underrated in sports.

So, which Dom Capers will we see for the rest of the year? Will we see the one who calls aggressive blitzes and has his team fired up like in game 2? Or will we see the passive Capers of game 1 whose players are timid and nice?
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#54 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 12:06:10 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: zombieslayer Go to Quoted Post
So, which Dom Capers will we see for the rest of the year? Will we see the one who calls aggressive blitzes and has his team fired up like in game 2? Or will we see the passive Capers of game 1 whose players are timid and nice?


The answer is what it has always been: it depends on how the players are playing.

The basics of Capers 3-4 are not hard to figure out: control the run first, get teams into predictable down-and-distance scenarios (more simply: make them 1 dimensional passing team) and then unleash Blitzburg style defenses.

We really did not do a great job of controlling the run. We did, however, have CM3 coming up huge and a pass-rush early on clicking enough to get the Bears into predictable down-and-distance scenarios. That makes it pretty easy to call a more aggressive defense.

Frankly, I'm surprised at people wanting Capers fired. He is pretty good at what he does. However, if his team cannot actually do the necessary things to play an aggressive style, you're going to see a struggling defense. Which we saw last year.

Even after tonight's performance, I'm concerned about our run D. It still needs to improve if we have any shot against other elite NFC teams. We cannot be giving up 4+ yards a carry and expect solid Defensive performances. I hope that, as the year goes on, Perry and Walden can continue to set good edges against the run, and, most importantly, our D-linemen do their jobs at a high level against the competition. I have some confidence in the former, but am highly suspect about the latter; time will tell.

However, I'm much more concerned with our offense. Benson coming on is a big asset, but for the love of all that is right in this world I cannot figure out why we do not call more short routes and slants to force Safties closer to the LOS. Hell, exploit the middle of the field more with players like Cobb. You've essentially got two TEs that can play as WRs, allowing you to use Cobb's versatility more. I'm not sure what McCarthy is thinking - but I grow more concerned with each quarter that he is counting on the big play to eventually develop and kick start our O. Kind of like a couple of years ago when he was intent on force feeding Finley to the detriment of Jennings. His stubbornness - if what this is an example of - is concerning. Use the variety in your playbook - short completions, slant routes, completions over middle of the field - to force the safties closer, thereby opening up more stuff deep.
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#55 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 12:09:25 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers Go to Quoted Post
The answer is what it has always been: it depends on how the players are playing.



Actually it seems the answer is "it depends on if Jarrett Bush is playing."

Amazing how well the DBs were with that scrub not on the field.
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#56 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 4:51:57 AM(UTC)
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Yeah, the players played well tonight, and therein lies the difference. I never was for calling out Capers so much, but rather the players. We had some underperforming since last year's game at KC. What impressed me was we got some really great play from some of the rookies, namely Worthy, Hayward and McMillian. Our vets really came up big too. Hawk, Mathews, Raji, Pick, Williams, Shields & Wood made their presence felt. That right there makes all the difference in the world. Inspired, sound play on D, in a good scheme. Great to see, especially v. CHI.

I take great pleasure in watching Cutler get pummeled.

The only knock I have on Capers is the dude needs a touch of gray in his shoe polished hair. Ditch the shoe polish Dom. Maybe find another barber who doesn't use a bowl. You're scaring me!
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#57 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 5:48:05 AM(UTC)
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Simplified the coverage last night.. played more basic cover two (albeit a bracket over Marshall) and allowed the front to pressure. Maybe this is the recipe that is needed for a while.. let the secondary get their feet under them before trying more complex zone calls.

Maybe it also will give Capers a little more confidence that the heat will get home and not play as much 3 man rushes.. once in a while but not to the degree we see last year.

Matthews played a good game, but many are overlooking what might have been AJ's most aggressive game in years. MacBob in chat talked about his play at the LOS.. he nailed it... he seemed to play on their side more than normal.. more instincts.. less read and react.

They still have work to do... but it is coming.
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#58 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 6:18:39 AM(UTC)
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I do not understand the one defensive formation Capers calls where a DL is in open space covering a wr.

San Fran got at least three plays of 15 yards on that formation.
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#59 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 6:23:13 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
Simplified the coverage last night.. played more basic cover two (albeit a bracket over Marshall) and allowed the front to pressure. Maybe this is the recipe that is needed for a while.. let the secondary get their feet under them before trying more complex zone calls.

Maybe it also will give Capers a little more confidence that the heat will get home and not play as much 3 man rushes.. once in a while but not to the degree we see last year.

Matthews played a good game, but many are overlooking what might have been AJ's most aggressive game in years. MacBob in chat talked about his play at the LOS.. he nailed it... he seemed to play on their side more than normal.. more instincts.. less read and react.

They still have work to do... but it is coming.


I only saw one or two 3 man rushes last night. Which is a HUGE step in the right direction. I'd like to see zero. All references to the 3 man rush should be taken out of Capers' playbook.

And yes, Hawk looked really good and that made a huge difference. He was there busting up plays at the LoS all night long.
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#60 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 9:56:09 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: tromadz Go to Quoted Post
How are we feeling tonight now?

The Packers defense just put a beating on Cutler and the Bears.

Do we still want Capers fired? I was one of those people.

Did I jump the gun? I'm not sure. I probably was. I hope he turns the defense around and everything but I dunno. Hopefully we all look foolish during this year's Superbowl when we look back and think about how we even considered it as fans.



I think we are in the same spot as we were last week.. we have some work to do yet and there still are questions to answer with this group.

The Packers still need to prove that they can handle presnap movement and stacks. Thanks to Meathead being the OC for the Bears, we seen a relatively bland version of presnap movement and little stacks. I think they firmly believed they would be able to out play the defense in the short quick passes and were not prepared to get out of that.

But I think Capers and company are going to alter the playbook for a little while going forward and building trust over the top that they can handle more than basic cover two responsibilities and rely on the abilities of his corners when they can trust they have help in place over the top.

Stacks will force them to get out of man some and alter the coverage to deal with it if they get rubbed off often. Also.. Cover two is going to place more pressure on the middle deep of the field, which means backers need to improve a bit in coverage on go routes by the TE.

Give take with the scheme last night, but at least players seemed to play more aggressively because they knew they had help over the top. Against the Niners I think they were mixing it up more due to the caliber of talent by Veron Davis.. they we trying to not let him beat them.. hence lack of cover two last week.

Much like the offense and the running game.. the defense has to be able to adjust accordingly.. so we will see issues moving forward unless they grow and improve in variate coverages.

But this game returned some of the swagger.. a confidence builder if you will.. and hopefully that carries over. And we improve is zones and on field coverage adjustments.

We shown that we have the physical talent to play with a good offense.. now we just need to improve upon the playbook and on field communication.

There is hope.. but we still have work to do. So yeah, we should be in the mode of we need to improve each week with an end goal of playing the rigors of the playoffs and advancing through.
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#61 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 10:11:12 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers Go to Quoted Post
The answer is what it has always been: it depends on how the players are playing.

The basics of Capers 3-4 are not hard to figure out: control the run first, get teams into predictable down-and-distance scenarios (more simply: make them 1 dimensional passing team) and then unleash Blitzburg style defenses.

We really did not do a great job of controlling the run. We did, however, have CM3 coming up huge and a pass-rush early on clicking enough to get the Bears into predictable down-and-distance scenarios. That makes it pretty easy to call a more aggressive defense.

Frankly, I'm surprised at people wanting Capers fired. He is pretty good at what he does. However, if his team cannot actually do the necessary things to play an aggressive style, you're going to see a struggling defense. Which we saw last year.

Even after tonight's performance, I'm concerned about our run D. It still needs to improve if we have any shot against other elite NFC teams. We cannot be giving up 4+ yards a carry and expect solid Defensive performances. I hope that, as the year goes on, Perry and Walden can continue to set good edges against the run, and, most importantly, our D-linemen do their jobs at a high level against the competition. I have some confidence in the former, but am highly suspect about the latter; time will tell.

However, I'm much more concerned with our offense. Benson coming on is a big asset, but for the love of all that is right in this world I cannot figure out why we do not call more short routes and slants to force Safties closer to the LOS. Hell, exploit the middle of the field more with players like Cobb. You've essentially got two TEs that can play as WRs, allowing you to use Cobb's versatility more. I'm not sure what McCarthy is thinking - but I grow more concerned with each quarter that he is counting on the big play to eventually develop and kick start our O. Kind of like a couple of years ago when he was intent on force feeding Finley to the detriment of Jennings. His stubbornness - if what this is an example of - is concerning. Use the variety in your playbook - short completions, slant routes, completions over middle of the field - to force the safties closer, thereby opening up more stuff deep.


I'm starting to worry that Arodge might be pulling a Favre. Always wanting to go deep. Taking the risky throw.
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#62 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 10:29:45 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers Go to Quoted Post
However, I'm much more concerned with our offense. Benson coming on is a big asset, but for the love of all that is right in this world I cannot figure out why we do not call more short routes and slants to force Safties closer to the LOS. Hell, exploit the middle of the field more with players like Cobb. You've essentially got two TEs that can play as WRs, allowing you to use Cobb's versatility more. I'm not sure what McCarthy is thinking - but I grow more concerned with each quarter that he is counting on the big play to eventually develop and kick start our O. Kind of like a couple of years ago when he was intent on force feeding Finley to the detriment of Jennings. His stubbornness - if what this is an example of - is concerning. Use the variety in your playbook - short completions, slant routes, completions over middle of the field - to force the safties closer, thereby opening up more stuff deep.


What makes you so sure McCarthy isn't calling those plays often, but Rodgers is changing the plays or simply making bad reads? I'm starting to think Rodger's has become less patient this season.
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#63 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 10:29:53 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
I'm starting to worry that Arodge might be pulling a Favre. Always wanting to go deep. Taking the risky throw.


Not I.. Aaron takes shots if they are there. He really has had two bad reads so far this season, he missed Bowman last week on a late athletic drop. Briggs last night.. no freaking idea what he was looking at on that one.

His deep shots last week and this week were there.. some drops and a severely under throw on the Jennings fade last week. Jennings had the over.. Rodgers missed the throw.

Rodgers is human.. last season, he displayed less of that human trait.

He might be slightly less impatient.. but I think part of that is due to drops this season.. even the under routes he throws to they are dropping. Frustration more than impatience IMO.
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#64 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 10:33:05 AM(UTC)
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Other people have brought up the major problem I have with the shots we're taking downfield... That it's often on third and 1 or 2 around midfield, and then we don't go for it on 4th down. It seems as though McCarthy is more willing to just punt it away this year. Maybe that's because of a lack of confidence that our defense can hold the opposing offense from a shortened field, maybe it's something else. But I really hate punting from the 50, opponent's 45 on 4th and 1 after taking a shot downfield on 3rd, especially since Masthay rarely seems to be able to pin them within the 10. The man's got a monster leg, but the ball always seems to bounce forwards.
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#65 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 10:35:52 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Porforis Go to Quoted Post
Other people have brought up the major problem I have with the shots we're taking downfield... That it's often on third and 1 or 2 around midfield, and then we don't go for it on 4th down. It seems as though McCarthy is more willing to just punt it away this year. Maybe that's because of a lack of confidence that our defense can hold the opposing offense from a shortened field, maybe it's something else. But I really hate punting from the 50, opponent's 45 on 4th and 1 after taking a shot downfield on 3rd, especially since Masthay rarely seems to be able to pin them within the 10. The man's got a monster leg, but the ball always seems to bounce forwards.


I think that is a learned behavior.. the last two seasons of inability in short yardage has left it up to the passing game to convert. Defenses hop the short, leaving the over lax.. Rodgers is reading that and taking the shots. They just are not connecting properly.. but that will come.

Normal year.. an offense should be behind a defense. I think we are normal.

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#66 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 10:36:00 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
I'm starting to worry that Arodge might be pulling a Favre. Always wanting to go deep. Taking the risky throw.


Disagree.

The 3rd and 1 shot that he missed to Jordy against the Niners was the absolute right call. He had 1 on 1 and if that was completed, it would be a TD and everyone would be saying how awesome the call was. He missed the throw.

The deep pass on 2nd and 6 to Jones wasn't a good pass, but Jones still should have caught it and if it was completed, we'd all be saying how good of a call it was. I called that pass in the chat. I said something along the lines of "Mike McCarthy should call a TD pass on this play." He did, and it was a good call.

The deep throw to Driver was a TD and it was the right call and it was executed perfectly.

Those were all great calls.
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#67 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 10:47:52 AM(UTC)
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I think we should stick with man coverage for a while. Last year with all the zone we just seen too many receivers finding the voids. If you look at the teams that give problems to QB's like Brady, Rodgers, Brees ect. It's teams that can play straight man coverage with help deep. I think an adjustment will be made cause those QB's absolutely wreck zone defense if there is no pressure.

I wouldn't can Zone altogether but I'd only use it now and then and not as the base philosophy of the defense. I think we found a combination of DB's that can play and succeed playing man with safeties deep banging down on the receiver late.
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#68 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 11:56:44 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
What makes you so sure McCarthy isn't calling those plays often, but Rodgers is changing the plays or simply making bad reads? I'm starting to think Rodger's has become less patient this season.


dodddude! I've been thinking that clock they used in preseason might be the culprit. Good to have the internal clock, but holding to that may force throws when others might open up with just a little more patience. Noticed the same thing over the past few outings.
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#69 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 3:14:58 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: tromadz Go to Quoted Post
Actually it seems the answer is "it depends on if Jarrett Bush is playing."

Amazing how well the DBs were with that scrub not on the field.


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#70 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 4:07:14 PM(UTC)
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Dang. Here I was excited that I'd see a Foster rant and there's nothing there. Think

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#71 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 4:29:50 PM(UTC)
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Dang. Here I was excited that I'd see a Foster rant and there's nothing there. Think

Where did you go?


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#72 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 5:33:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: zombieslayer Go to Quoted Post
Disagree.

The 3rd and 1 shot that he missed to Jordy against the Niners was the absolute right call. He had 1 on 1 and if that was completed, it would be a TD and everyone would be saying how awesome the call was. He missed the throw.


Disagree. There were two defenders back. Jordy had one of them beat by a step or 2, the second was right with him.

That 3rd & 1 was a drive killer, unless Mike McCarthy was willing to go for it on 4th down, which he wasn't.

That is exactly the play I was thinking of when I said in another thread that I hated punting on 4th after throwing deep on 3rd & 1. Get the first, then take a shot deep when it won't end your drive if you don't complete it.
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#73 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2012 9:46:29 PM(UTC)
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The only way Mike McCarthy is going to start handing off on 3rd and 1 is when the RB's prove they can make the yard.

As far as throwing on 3rd and 1, as i remember it, Bart Starr did that ALL the time, and most often it turned into a big play. But that was because the Packers had killer RB's back then so teams had to watch for them to run for it. That opened up the pass. If Benson (or whoever is in there) starts showing that they can make the hard yard, LOOK OUT! It would open up the big play for them!
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#74 Posted : Saturday, September 15, 2012 7:20:21 AM(UTC)
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I blame the Oline more for not being able to get 3rd and 1. They're horrible, the entire "battle line" moves to our side of the line of scrimmage.
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#75 Posted : Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:17:56 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: macbob Go to Quoted Post
Disagree. There were two defenders back. Jordy had one of them beat by a step or 2, the second was right with him.

That 3rd & 1 was a drive killer, unless Mike McCarthy was willing to go for it on 4th down, which he wasn't.

That is exactly the play I was thinking of when I said in another thread that I hated punting on 4th after throwing deep on 3rd & 1. Get the first, then take a shot deep when it won't end your drive if you don't complete it.


Actually, I have to retract this partially. I liked it out of the old U71. Jennings would be out left, the right side would be stacked. If the safety helped out the CB we'd be 1 on 1 blocking for the run and if the safety cheated up the Jennings would be 1 on 1 deep. It was a run-pass option, based on the QB read of whether the safety was coming up or deep.

In the case of the 49ers, QB wouldn't have thrown deep because two guys were back. We'd have run it there.
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