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Offline blueleopard  
#41 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:40:28 AM(UTC)
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I'm sure that worked for Tennessee on Sunday vs. Detroit.
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#42 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:42:23 AM(UTC)
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all_about_da_packers said: Go to Quoted Post
There is a point bigger than this: the booth review, which was done by a full-time veteran NFL employee, up-held the play call. I really, really want to hear the justification for the call being upheld by Howard Slavin, someone who is NOT a replacement ref but a permanent NFL employee that made the decision on the booth review.

I believe possession is not reviewable. Therefore, the call stood because the call on the field was simultaneous possession. In other words, the official should never have gone under the hood in the first place. The booth reviewer probably realized this error and knew the play had to be upheld.
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#43 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:46:47 AM(UTC)
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porky88 said: Go to Quoted Post
I believe possession is not reviewable. Therefore, the call stood because the call on the field was simultaneous possession. In other words, the official should never have gone under the hood in the first place. The booth reviewer probably realized this error and knew the play had to be upheld.


As a scoring play, it would have to be reviewed.
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#44 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:48:00 AM(UTC)
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gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
rulebook explaining goodell's power

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/unfairacts


He has the power to do it, but he's way too afraid. IF only he had a set of balls and actually cared more about the game and less about his wallet.
Offline neromich  
#45 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:49:49 AM(UTC)
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I dont think they can review possession
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#46 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:57:19 AM(UTC)
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He has the power to do it, but he's way too afraid. IF only he had a set of balls and actually cared more about the game and less about his wallet.


To do it, he would have to admit that the replacement refs are imperfect. CAN'T do that.
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#47 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:08:19 AM(UTC)
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nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Here's another thing.

That's why you knock the ball down in that situation. You don't go for the INT.


That's why? You have to knock it down because you have to factor in that the refs suck? That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever seen.

Regardless of whether that's the right thing to do in that situation, they way you phrase it is absolute bullshit.
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Offline macbob  
#48 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:08:37 AM(UTC)
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I sent the following letter to Mr Goodell. Don't know if he'll get it.

The letter pretty much says it all--the NFL has no integrity if they allow the results of the MNF game to stand. As I feel right now, I have no interest in watching football this weekend. I'm not sure when/if my interest will rekindle--it may be days, it may be weeks.

It may be never. I used to be an avid baseball fan, attending several games a year, watching games on TV multiple times a week, taking part in fantasy baseball leagues. I quit watching baseball after the 1994 strike that wiped out the world series that year. I never started watching since.

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Mr Goodell-

I have been an NFL fan since I was a boy.

I have never been so outraged, embarrassed, ashamed, and saddened for the NFL as I am now. The NFL has tried to pretend the replacement referees have not significantly impacted the outcomes of games. The NFL can no longer do so. The terrible calls by the replacement referees that the NFL provided for the Monday Night Football game determined the outcome of that game.

The defensive pass interference call on Sam Shields toward the end of that game was a joke. The Seahawk receiver mugged the Packer's defender and should have been called for offensive pass interference, penalizing the Seahawks further on what was already a 1st and 30 play. Even a non-call would have been better than the call made by the replacement referees. That would have at least left it at second & thirty. Instead, the Seahawks were given a first and ten in Packer's territory.

Then to follow that up with the call on the last play of the game. In order for the receiver to have simultaneous possession of the ball he must first have possession of the ball. Touching the ball isn't possessing it. Golden Tate never had possession of the ball.

If the referee lockout was intended to provide leverage over the referee union then it has been an abject failure. The replacement referees have seriously damaged the NFL's reputation and strengthened the hand of the referees' union.

I have been a Packers fan since I was a little boy growing up in the Lombardi era, even though I lived 1/2 the country away. I had no local team to cheer for--the closest team was over 3 hours away, and the Packers were the team that I got to see most often during the season and in the playoffs. I endured 20 years of mediocrity (at best) until the 90s, and have greatly enjoyed the last 20 years when the Packers were worth watching again. I am a part-owner of the franchise, and so is my son.

The NFL that you are a commissioner of has no integrity after Monday night's game.

For the first time since becoming a fan of the NFL so many years ago I am no longer looking forward to watching the NFL next weekend. I honestly don't care who the Packers are playing, and it is a strange feeling. I will be taking down my Packer's memorabilia at work, which my co-workers have dubbed 'The Shrine' and will be finding something else to do with my family this weekend, and that too will be strange, at first.
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Offline stevegb  
#49 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:09:27 AM(UTC)
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On a side note, I believe it was an interception but what was Jennings thinking not batting it down?
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#50 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:16:40 AM(UTC)
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I can just see your reply (If they can be bothered of course....

Dear NFL Fan

Thank you for you letter.

We at the NFL strive each day to give you the best in every way.

We will continue to do this and thank you for your interest.

Yours in sport

R Goodell

p/p (some unknown from the back office) (maybe the tea-boy)
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