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Offline DakotaT  
#46 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:09:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
We went up against a very good offense today.

This offense got a huge break from the replay claiming that replay was a complete pass, which kept their scoring drive alive.

They also got handed that ugly fumble by Harrell.

Other than that, they looked pretty decent, against that very good offense.

There was that bizarre "miscommunication" where Shields let Colston get deep and seemingly quite a few plays wide open over the middle. But they played well enough to win comfortably.

The problem once again, was on the OFFENSE.


I think we watched different games Nerd. How many times did Mathsay punt?
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Offline dfosterf  
#47 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:10:18 PM(UTC)
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whew. Happy birthday to me. At the end, all I asked for was that last first down. JAMES Jones!

I thought we got repeatedly hosed by the refs, to a bizarre degree, and had a very bad feeling about the whole damn thing.

My wife got me some shoes and a nice GBP sweatshirt, but that last first down was all I really wanted in life.

Christ, I hate drama- please Lord, let us crush someone so I can relax.



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Offline nerdmann  
#48 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:12:25 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DakotaT Go to Quoted Post
I think we watched different games Nerd. How many times did Mathsay punt?


When you turn the ball over, you don't get to punt.
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Offline Pack93z  
#49 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:23:54 PM(UTC)
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Offensively, minus the two turnovers... was about the perfectly called game.

One Turnover was Rodger trying to fit one in there.. some were asking for that, taking chances.. he took several today.

My only real complaint outside of the officials, was we should not play zone anymore until we can handle playing one... boy was that some ugly zone play. I get it, they fear the tightends.. but my goodness... learn how to play zone effectively. Even Woodson vacated his place... either that or several screwed up.

But again.. this was a decent game for the offense, look for more next week.

The defense.. stay in simple coverages.. can't handle complex zones yet.


I think when there's enough will and aggression, there's no shortage of talent either.

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Offline DakotaT  
#50 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:24:08 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
When you turn the ball over, you don't get to punt.


So two turnovers and getting hosed by the refs, and we still win? I guess Rodgers was pretty efficient today. I'm still more worried about the D than I am the offense. Baby steps I guess.
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#51 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:29:49 PM(UTC)
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Well said...
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Green Bay Packers Rodgers is chased by New Orleans Saints Johnson during their NFL football game in Green Bay Reuters

Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers were both outstanding on Sunday at Lambeau Field, but in a back-and-forth game with plenty of twists and turns, it was Rodgers’ Packers who ended up on top of Brees’ Saints, 28-27.

Brees completed 35 of 54 passes for 446 yards, with three touchdowns and no interceptions, but that wasn’t enough. Although he maneuvered them into range for an apparent go-ahead field goal late in the fourth quarter, the Saints’ successful kick was called back on a holding penalty, and when they were backed up the Saints missed.

Rodgers completed 31 of 41 passes for 319 yards, with four touchdowns and one interception, and a short completion on a third down just after the two-minute warning iced the game and gave the Packers the win.

For the second consecutive week, the Packers suffered at the hands of bad officiating. Last week it was the infamous Hail Mary in Seattle that wrongly gave the Seahawks a touchdown and likely led to the end of the NFL’s lockout of its referees. This week there are no replacements to blame, just longtime ref Jeff Triplette and his crew, who botched several calls, including a fumble by Saints kickoff returner Darren Sproles that they wrongly ruled down by contact, and a push-off in the end zone by Saints receiver Marques Colston on a touchdown catch that should have been called back for offensive pass interference.

But this time the bad officiating didn’t cost the Packers the game, and they improved to 2-2. The Saints fought hard, but in the end they lost once again, falling to 0-4.
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Offline mi_keys  
#52 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:33:26 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
When you turn the ball over, you don't get to punt.


And one of those was due to our backup quarterback tripping on a hand off. If Rodgers doesn't go out we score 31 or 35 points on only one turnover. The offense passed and ran effectively today. We still have too many drops and Rodgers hasn't yet hit his form from last year but today was a lot better.

The defense did very well today in the run game. The pass defense was shit though. I was actually more confident in 3rd and short than in 3rd and long. Our pass rush which had been pretty good the first three weeks completely disappeared. I think the young guys in the secondary are generally playing well enough. They need to clean up the miscommunications but if we can get the pass rush back the way it was before today then I'm confident we can slow down a good offense. We absolutely HAVE to get a pass rush though.
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Offline gbguy20  
#53 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:42:17 PM(UTC)
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dear offense,

welcome back. now keep it up.

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Offline dfosterf  
#54 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:43:03 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pack93z Go to Quoted Post
Offensively, minus the two turnovers... was about the perfectly called game.

One Turnover was Rodger trying to fit one in there.. some were asking for that, taking chances.. he took several today.

My only real complaint outside of the officials, was we should not play zone anymore until we can handle playing one... boy was that some ugly zone play. I get it, they fear the tightends.. but my goodness... learn how to play zone effectively. Even Woodson vacated his place... either that or several screwed up.

But again.. this was a decent game for the offense, look for more next week.

The defense.. stay in simple coverages.. can't handle complex zones yet.




Fuck that zone. We are Wisconsinites. Any Minnesota resident will be more than happy to tell you that we can't handle complicated shit. Hat on a hat. Fuck zone.

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Offline gbguy20  
#55 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:46:46 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: dfosterf Go to Quoted Post
Fuck that zone. We are Wisconsinites. Any Minnesota resident will be more than happy to tell you that we can't handle complicated shit. Hat on a hat. Fuck zone.



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Offline Porforis  
#56 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:32:45 PM(UTC)
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Things I liked:
Jones and Finley continuing to play at a high level after a disappointing year last year (Especially Finley). Finley had a drop, but it wasn't a super easy one. Jones' miracle catch at the end was pretty sweet too, albeit unneccesary with the penalty

The playcalling. Mike seemed to do a 180 from what killed us on offense in the first half last week, and seemed to have a great mix of runs inside, outside, screens, slants, and deep shots. While it paid off in the end, wasn't a fan of the 4th and 1 fake punt but I do like that it's going to make other teams paranoid with all the trick plays we've been running. How long before we see the surprise onside kick?

Rodgers making better decisions, and not getting squirrely under pressure. He did get a LOT better protection, but when he sensed pressure he always seemed to know where his out was. When he did scramble, they were good decisions or designed runs.

Cedric Benson. I admit I was too hard on Grant, but Benson is an example of just what we were missing. He seems to make great reads and makes a gut, runs low and drives for what he can get. So far he's avoided fumbling problems and has even made a few good catches. I haven't paid close attention to him in pass protection so I can't comment there.
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#57 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:39:35 PM(UTC)
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Just don't fumble Cedric.

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Offline gbguy20  
#58 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:40:59 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Porforis Go to Quoted Post
Things I liked:
Jones and Finley continuing to play at a high level after a disappointing year last year (Especially Finley). Finley had a drop, but it wasn't a super easy one. Jones' miracle catch at the end was pretty sweet too, albeit unneccesary with the penalty.



I raged today when the announcers called it a drop twice, and im going to rage again right now. When a defender has a hand in between the ball and the receivers chest and is able to knock the ball of out their hands, it is NOT A FUCKING DROP. It's bullshit like this that is giving an unfair bad reputation to certain players.
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Offline olds70supreme  
#59 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:41:24 PM(UTC)
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I'm glad that...
the Pack got a win today.
Rodgers looked like his old self again.
Benson ran tough.
the defense didn't give up/self completely self destruct after some bad calls.
Cobb, Jones, and even Finley stepped up and performed well.
Jimmy Graham didn't light us up.

I wasn't too happy about...
the third and forevers that the Saints converted.
how the middle of the field seems to be a safety zone for opposing receivers.
the blown coverages.
Woodson's composure (or lack thereof) after being taken down by a blocker after the play.
how it seemed to me that the d-line was not getting anywhere near the push that they had in the Bears or Seattle game.
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Offline Porforis  
#60 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:43:38 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
I raged today when the announcers called it a drop twice, and im going to rage again right now. When a defender has a hand in between the ball and the receivers chest and is able to knock the ball of out their hands, it is NOT A FUCKING DROP. It's bullshit like this that is giving an unfair bad reputation to certain players.


On that particular play, Finley would have likely caught the ball without the defender's hand in there. However, the only reason why I called it a drop (I'd call it a half drop if such a thing existed) is because he juggled it a bit first, if he would have caught it cleanly and pulled it in, the defender's hand wouldn't have mattered.
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