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Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 5:01:16 AM(UTC)
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Green Bay Packers ( 2 - 2 )
  • Total Offense = 20th
  • Passing Offense = 15th
  • Rushing Offense = 25th

  • Total Defense = 9th
  • Passing Defense = 6th
  • Rushing Defense = 18th

  • Points For = 21.2 (20th)
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Indianapolis Colts ( 1 - 2 )
  • Total Offense = 17th
  • Passing Offense = 12th
  • Rushing Offense = 21st

  • Total Defense = 18th
  • Passing Defense = 15th
  • Rushing Defense = 23rd

  • Points For = 20.3 (22nd)
  • Points Against = 27.7 (24th)

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#2 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 6:56:07 PM(UTC)
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Yeah Week 4 isn't over yet, but week 3 ended horribly for the Packers and week 4 almost did as well... so moving on to Week 5.


DE Mike Neal's suspension should be up this week. Anybody want to a take a guess on who's cut or placed on IR?


In week 5 the Colts face the Packers, they're the only team to beat the Vikings (so far) who some how happen to be leading the NFC North (at the moment).

If Dwight Freeney is back and healthy, the OTs might have their hands full. And they have the former Ravens defensive coach and former Steelers offensive coach (as well as traded for the Dolphins best CB), and they have something the Packers haven't had much of (as of yet) they have Luck (QB Andrew Luck)


Also how are people liking the defensive switch Capers had made? ... personally I kind of miss the man to man CB coverage... and now they play a ton of zone, and seem to be open in the middle on most 3rd downs.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 6:59:15 PM(UTC)
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Should be nice to get Neal back, if for no other purpose than depth.

So, who we gonna cut to make room for him? I'd say Merling, but I'm thinking maybe they'll IR Jennings or Starks under that rule where you can bring the dude back later in the season.

I think Neal still can be very good, but it might take him a bit to get back into the swing of things.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:00:19 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: beast Go to Quoted Post
Yeah Week 4 isn't over yet, but week 3 ended horribly for the Packers and week 4 almost did as well... so moving on to Week 5.


DE Mike Neal's suspension should be up this week. Anybody want to a take a guess on who's cut or placed on IR?


In week 5 the Colts face the Packers, they're the only team to beat the Vikings (so far) who some how happen to be leading the NFC North (at the moment).

If Dwight Freeney is back and healthy, the OTs might have their hands full. And they have the former Ravens defensive coach and former Steelers offensive coach (as well as traded for the Dolphins best CB), and they have something the Packers haven't had much of (as of yet) they have Luck (QB Andrew Luck)


Also how are people liking the defensive switch Capers had made? ... personally I kind of miss the man to man CB coverage... and now they play a ton of zone, and seem to be open in the middle on most 3rd downs.


Ha ha, I just created another thread on Neal. Here's what I said:

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Should be nice to get Neal back, if for no other purpose than depth.

So, who we gonna cut to make room for him? I'd say Merling, but I'm thinking maybe they'll IR Jennings or Starks under that rule where you can bring the dude back later in the season.

I think Neal still can be very good, but it might take him a bit to get back into the swing of things.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:09:55 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nerdmann Go to Quoted Post
Should be nice to get Neal back, if for no other purpose than depth.

So, who we gonna cut to make room for him? I'd say Merling, but I'm thinking maybe they'll IR Jennings or Starks under that rule where you can bring the dude back later in the season.

I think Neal still can be very good, but it might take him a bit to get back into the swing of things.


I'm not sure but that IR rule may only apply to the start of the season?
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#6 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:24:53 PM(UTC)
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Starts was a full participant in practice this week they won't be IR'ing him. Unless Jennings badly re-injured himself today I cant imagine him being put on it either.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:30:28 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: beast Go to Quoted Post


Also how are people liking the defensive switch Capers had made? ... personally I kind of miss the man to man CB coverage... and now they play a ton of zone, and seem to be open in the middle on most 3rd downs.


Hate it. Hate it, hate it, hate it. Our zone leaves huge holes all over the field and it is fucking terrible. I can't even begin to describe how much I hate watching film of our zone defense.
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#8 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:31:44 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
Hate it. Hate it, hate it, hate it. Our zone leaves huge holes all over the field and it is fucking terrible. I can't even begin to describe how much I hate watching film of our zone defense.


If we grab at least ONE of those INTs, our D looks a whole lot better.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:33:39 PM(UTC)
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If we grab at least ONE of those INTs, our D looks a whole lot better.


Interceptions or not, watching Brees & Smith complete pass after pass after pass after pass to receivers running underneath our zone and in the damn holes is the most infuriating thing. Were you not pulling your hair out every time it was 2nd and 18 and Brees got 14 of those yards back with ease?
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#10 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:43:23 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: earthquake Go to Quoted Post
I'm not sure but that IR rule may only apply to the start of the season?


Nope it's not. They can use it at anytime. My problem with the rule is you have to name the player when you put them on the IR list... when you put them on the list you don't always know who'll be healthy and ready to go in 8 weeks and who won't be... so it's like a guess. I'd rather have it as you can bring one player back who's sat out the amount of time on the IR list.


Also I'm thinking if Neal is back they'll cut a LB. They got 10 LBers which they're keeping for STs... wonder if they could go with 9 without dropping much on STs.

Sounds like both Jennings have gotten hurt, they're not gonna IR WR Jennings, but not sure how back Dr. Jennings (M.D. Jennings) is doing...

Also Starks was listed as "probable" I think we'll see him playing in the next 3 weeks. I haven't heard much of Rb Saine.

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#11 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:46:59 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
Interceptions or not, watching Brees & Smith complete pass after pass after pass after pass to receivers running underneath our zone and in the damn holes is the most infuriating thing. Were you not pulling your hair out every time it was 2nd and 18 and Brees got 14 of those yards back with ease?


Seemed like every 3rd mid level pass in the middle in front of the Safeties.

We're playing Cover 2 now... like the rest of the NFC North? ... (well Bears play Tampa 2, which is mostly the same other than the one of the LBers (Urlacher) covers the deep middle.
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#12 Posted : Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:53:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
Interceptions or not, watching Brees & Smith complete pass after pass after pass after pass to receivers running underneath our zone and in the damn holes is the most infuriating thing. Were you not pulling your hair out every time it was 2nd and 18 and Brees got 14 of those yards back with ease?


Yeah, but mainly because the game was so close, and shouldn't have been.
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#13 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 6:56:48 AM(UTC)
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Colts Head Coach Chuck Pagano diagnosed with leukemia
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#14 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 7:36:46 AM(UTC)
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I will be there! I'm from Indiana, so I hear about the Colts nonstop. Most fans are optimistic but also realistic about the capabilities of this team. Their D is still not close to top tier, and it will be interesting to see what Dom does against their WR core. I know we're all clamoring for man-to-man. I'm thinking a big game for Matthews and some picks...Can't wait!!
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#15 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 8:37:17 AM(UTC)
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We NEED a game where both the O and the D come together and are solid through at least most of the game. We need to blow out a team. I'm hoping it's this game. Not saying it will happen, but hoping it will be this game.
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#16 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 8:45:14 AM(UTC)
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Chuck Pagano will be out for this game and several others with what ESPN is reporting Leukemia. First and foremost, well wishes to a well respected coach.

Secondly, this will have an impact on this young team.

We are playing a rookie QB that is being hailed as a Messiah already.. with a developing offensive team around him. They have a defense that still has some bite up front in terms of pass rushers, but past that, a defense that is still under construction, this is where Pagano's absence will be felt the most on the field.

It is on turf.. the Packers offensive line will have to repeat yesterday on a fast surface with at least one speed rusher coming each down.

With that said.. this should be a game where the Packers offense settles in and the defense can rebound a bit. I expect a couple turnovers in our favor and a comfortable win.
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#17 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 12:24:43 PM(UTC)
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I just want a win......of course a blowout would help my bad heart, but i'll take ANY win.
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#18 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 12:37:27 PM(UTC)
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That's awful..
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#19 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 12:54:14 PM(UTC)
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I am looking at seeing Neal make a difference for this team after being on suspension. Daniels is still a work in progress and Wilson has been serviceable. I want to see if Neal makes any impact plays or contributes in that way.
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#20 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 1:02:50 PM(UTC)
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I am looking at seeing Neal make a difference for this team after being on suspension. Daniels is still a work in progress and Wilson has been serviceable. I want to see if Neal makes any impact plays or contributes in that way.


so what is the line on Neal making an impact?

I say this game in Indy will be a good game for him. He was born in Merrillville. Played for PU. He should have a pretty big following at the game.

I also think he will disappear for stretches as the season goes on. then released before TC next year.



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#21 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 1:07:55 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: wpr Go to Quoted Post
so what is the line on Neal making an impact?

I say this game in Indy will be a good game for him. He was born in Merrillville. Played for PU. He should have a pretty big following at the game.

I also think he will disappear for stretches as the season goes on. then released before TC next year.


It's hard to make an impact when you're on the sidelines nursing another injury. He'll be injured before half time.

Edit, Packers have a one week roster exception with Mike Neal. I highly doubt he's activated, unless there's someone on the roster they are simply at ends with. 4 RB's and if James Starks is good to go, I could see letting go of Brandon Saine and get him on the Practice Squad, if that's possible. Otherwise maybe Philip Merling?

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#22 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 1:17:40 PM(UTC)
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Indy should be susceptible to the run. For the past 1 1/2 games GB has shown they can move the ball pretty consistently when they give the run it fair share of the plays. '

When they abandon the run the speed rushers on the defense come flying in. Give Benson the ball and they all do a double take. Even play action passes when the run is being utilized slow the DL down a lot.

I look for Benson to get his first 100 on 25 carries game and Aaron Rodgers to go up top for 350 yards 3 TDs.

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#23 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:12:57 AM(UTC)
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Top 10 Defense and still only .500 ... I'm hoping to see the Packers thoroughly dominate in this coming game.
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:15:39 AM(UTC)
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#25 Posted : Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:11:35 AM(UTC)
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That sucks. Heart felt get well soon from someone who lost a parent to cancer.

I cant feel that this year, that all of our games will have something drama to it. Just feels like one of those years.
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