Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
9 Pages«<6789>
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline Zero2Cool  
#71 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 7:03:14 AM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,244
Applause Received: 3,285
Packers gave up two turnovers against the Saints. The Graham Harrell fumble and the Aaron Rodgers interception and they still won. You might think this game wasn't pretty, but when you include the turnovers, the blatant miss calls by the referee's, the Packers did something yesterday they haven't done under Mike McCarthy before ... won a game after losing the turnover battle. (I'm basing that off what McCarthy said as my source)


B.J. Raji said:
I had to run and hug Tramon because he really saved me. I kind of put us in a bad position there getting that personal foul. But, that’s why it’s also a team game, and my teammates stepped up for me, and I’d do the same thing.


Why is it so difficult to just own up and say "I put us" instead of "I kind of put us" in a bad position? There is no KIND OF about it, you did! This soft sense of accountability is kind of annoying.
Offline TwinkieGorilla  
#72 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 7:40:18 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 19
Applause Received: 43
Ok, so I had to work and missed the game but watched the highlights. I found a d/l of the game though so I'm going to watch it tonight. Anything "nice" and/or outside the obvious I should be watching out for?
Offline Pack93z  
#73 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 7:41:28 AM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Bronze: 2012

United States
Joined: 3/16/2007(UTC)
Location: North Central Wisconsin
Applause Given: 410
Applause Received: 1,134
Rios39 said: Go to Quoted Post
Zone is a bad system to play against elite qbs.


I would modify that statement.. a zone defense behind a weak pass rush is vulnerable and a elite QB is going to find the soft spots in the zones. The Packers issues in zone were exposed to a greater emphasis because we were not effective up front in the pass rush. The Saints line deserves the credit there.. they were stoning most of it physically. Matthews and others on more than one occasion were getting man handled.

A zone defense can be very effective if properly run with good disciplined and communication.

We are lacking one or the other at times in this defense.. this can be seen, for example, when Williams right before the snap calls out a change in the coverage, however completely missed and leaving a guy coming across the middle all alone.

There were many times, to me, that guys were out of position leaving gaping holes in the short zones. Whose fault is hard to tell because we don't know the coverage responsibilities, but that can't happen and expect success.

My opinion, is Capers, when facing a team with good tight end talent shifts to zone to try and protect the backers from ending up in singled up coverage. In the second half they adjusted out of it some and played a blend. Even then, we seen guys dragging the middle and finding success.. so it was not all scheme. The Saints have the talent to move the ball.. they did.

Another factor I think is Capers and company wanted to see how the game was going to be called in terms of contact down field.. to me, there was still a good amount of contact being allowed. It will be interesting to see how other crews call it.. and how the Packers react.

Summary from pre-game comments in another thread, the offense will hit is stride because of the enforcement of the rules.. and the defense will revert. We are a man team on defense.. that is what we do and do well. Especially with young players sprinkled in at Safety.. yes even Morgan is still young, I think zone might be a work in process during the regular season, but they need to employ it and work on it, because come playoff time, it may be needed. That is of course if we make the Playoffs.
Offline play2win  
#74 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 8:33:42 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

United States
Joined: 3/29/2012(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee
Applause Given: 1,076
Applause Received: 724
zombieslayer said: Go to Quoted Post
Fact - every time Dom Capers calls the 3-man rush, an angel falls down from Heaven.


Awesome!!! Well done.

On that note, I lost my voice in that game last night. We were 18 rows up from the corner of the end zone where the officials failed to throw a flag for offensive PI on the Colston TD in the 1st Quarter. Screamed boo as loud and as long as humanly possible, along with everyone else in the stands, and from there, it was on.

Those officials sucked, entirely. Piss poor calls through the entire game. Tripplet has called some really bad games for us historically. Yesterday was no different.

When the third try on the NO FG went wide left, it was a thing of beauty. Providence, the Green Bay Packers and the football gods won.
Offline play2win  
#75 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 8:38:11 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

United States
Joined: 3/29/2012(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee
Applause Given: 1,076
Applause Received: 724
TwinkieGorilla said: Go to Quoted Post
Ok, so I had to work and missed the game but watched the highlights. I found a d/l of the game though so I'm going to watch it tonight. Anything "nice" and/or outside the obvious I should be watching out for?


You know what Twinkie, check out Benson's runs. He is so, so very close to busting some wide open. He could have easily went over 100 yds if he had. Also, look at the Jordy reception they overruled on replay. Unbelievable. Might want to check their DL for holding, cuz none of the officials did...

Somehow, we still won. What a battle. Like we were fighting both NO and the NFL Officials. Two on one and we still beat them.

Enjoy.
Offline Yerko  
#76 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 8:54:20 AM(UTC)
Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 10/15/2008(UTC)
Location: Chicago, IL
Applause Given: 196
Applause Received: 346
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
The problem once again, was on the OFFENSE.


Philbin's absence?

It's a relief that the Packers came out on top here. So many things went against them to make me not believe they were going to win this one.

- Another blatant OPI missed in the endzone. I know its not called a lot, but C'MON MAN!
- Blown review (great challenge) on the 3rd down catch by Graham.
- Rodgers getting poked in the eye.
-leading to an immediate fumble by Harrell.
-led to a scoring drive for the Saints, right? (its all a blur)
- Blown call on the kick return fumble.

Odds were slowly stacking against the Packers, but they prevailed.

Positives
-James Jones had an AMAZING game and that is nice to see after the mistake(s) made in the Bears game.
-Randall Cobb continues to show versatility on the offense. Loved that little halfback screen play.
-Jermichael Finley actually caught multiple passes.
-Cedric Benson continues to do work.
-We didn't field the Bears offensive line this game.
-Another ballsy special teams call!

Negatives
-Play calling on defense.
Can't count how many times the Packers had the Saints in 3rd and (longer than 5) and the Saints converted on it. I think at one point in the game it was mentioned that Drew Brees had completed 9 of 13 3rd down conversions. That is just totally unacceptable. There is a reason you had the Saints at 3rd and long and then you rush three and play a soft zone. I just don't get it...

Enjoy this win fellas!
Offline wpr  
#77 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 9:57:58 AM(UTC)
Rank: Select Member

PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2012PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2013FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2014FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2013

Joined: 8/8/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 3,311
Applause Received: 1,607
wish I could have seen more of the game. had a minor family emergency coupled with the need to take my mother into my sister's place for a few days.

Turned the game on with a few minutes left until half.

I did get to see a little more than half of the game but what I did see was in a living room full of people who were only partially paying attention. Makes it more difficult to follow the intricacies of the game.

Then had to leave with about 5 minutes to go.
Offline Cheesey  
#78 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 12:16:46 PM(UTC)
Rank: Honored Member

United States
Joined: 7/28/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 552
Applause Received: 705
Finley and James Jones were GREAT in this game. With all the "hating" on them, they deserve props when they perform like this.

Oh....and the defense, as was stated i believe by G-Force, gave up WAY too many 3rd and long completions. Holding a team on 1st and 2nd down doesn't matter much if you constantly let them off the hook.
thanks Post received 1 applause.
wpr on 10/1/2012(UTC)
Offline Wade  
#79 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 1:04:50 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Joined: 8/1/2009(UTC)
Location: nowhere of importance
Applause Given: 803
Applause Received: 810
dfosterf said: Go to Quoted Post
Fuck that zone. We are Wisconsinites. Any Minnesota resident will be more than happy to tell you that we can't handle complicated shit. Hat on a hat. Fuck zone.



Especially when it's accompanied by 3 hats on 5 hats.

I hate the GD 3-man rush.

thanks Post received 2 applause.
wpr on 10/1/2012(UTC), zombieslayer on 10/1/2012(UTC)
Offline Rios39  
#80 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 1:50:50 PM(UTC)
Rank: Member

Joined: 8/9/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 1
Applause Received: 30
Cheesey said: Go to Quoted Post
Finley and James Jones were GREAT in this game. With all the "hating" on them, they deserve props when they perform like this.

Oh....and the defense, as was stated i believe by G-Force, gave up WAY too many 3rd and long completions. Holding a team on 1st and 2nd down doesn't matter much if you constantly let them off the hook.


It seemed like they played more aggressive on 1st and 2nd down and less aggressive on third down. Any problems I've seen on D this year have been either play calling or miscommunications in zone base.
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
9 Pages«<6789>
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
uffda udfa: Hey Kevin...can you change my moniker to: Unfrozen Caveman Poster? No more uffda udfa. Possible?
Zero2Cool: Today's Birthdays: Smokey (59)
Porforis: Because clearly having bi-weekly distractions in the form of antics and crimes wouldn't hurt the team
yooperfan: together. He is a waste of oxygen
yooperfan: Manziel is a very disturbed young man who is looking down the barrel of a prison sentence not too far down the road unless he gets his act t
TheKanataThrilla: He's better than what we currently have backing up AR.
Smokey: A backup what, bartender ?
TheKanataThrilla: Looks like Manziel is getting cut. I'd be interested in him as a back-up.
Zero2Cool: Dunno.
Smokey: WILL WE HAVE A SB "CHAT", Zero2Cool ?
Mucky Tundra: I wonder if Stat Padford will follow Johnson to the retirement center?
uffda udfa: Winston Moss has a better all time win % than MM at 1000%. Let's make this permanent. :)
uffda udfa: We should take note and realize our Jordy might not be Jordy at 31 this season.
uffda udfa: I think Detroit has a way of doing that to players.
Zero2Cool: Calvin is retiring at age 30, just like the great Barry Sanders.
uffda udfa: He'd be 31 just like Jordy but his body is done.
uffda udfa: Sources: Calvin Johnson told Lions he's retiring.
Zero2Cool: Today's Birthdays: BobBrews (70)
uffda udfa: Who doesn't love Bolt Travolta?
Smokey: Lightning "Bolt" ( Chargers )
Zero2Cool: WTF is a Bolt? BOLT The Super Dog?
uffda udfa: All you closet bolts fans: BREAKING: Chargers chairman Dean Spanos says team will remain in San Diego for 2016 season.
Zero2Cool: Today's Birthdays: Yerko (31)
Zero2Cool: Contest winners are sent a Packers related prize. It's not huge, just a token of appreciation so-to-speak.
Smokey: Prize ?
Mucky Tundra: Oh! I thought for a minute it got lost in the mail
Zero2Cool: Your prize. I feel bad. It's just been so chaotic with personal life and work stuff and my girls. I need to clone myself! lol
Mucky Tundra: No problem Zero! (Psst, what are we talking about?)
uffda udfa: We aren't going to go 19-0 for 4 straight seasons with this regime! I fully believe there's one that could get us closer.
Zero2Cool: Mucky, I haven't forgot. Just been really busy. Hopefully this weekend.
Mucky Tundra: Only four undefeated seasons? Such low standards!
Zero2Cool: .. or in SOME folks eyes ... go 19 - 0 four seasons in a row, nothing less is acceptable with potential HOF QB at helm. :massiveEyeRoll:
nerdmann: To become a truly GREAT coach, Mike needs to learn how to put other teams away.
uffda udfa: MM has always been secondary to my concerns as to what's wrong in Green Bay. Now, it appears he's speaking out just like guys like Dakota a
uffda udfa: Yup.. George Seifert and Barry Switzer won SB's. Do you honestly think MM is a great head coach? No need to cite any stats...just your op
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

Road To Super Bowl 50
Sunday, Sep 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Sunday, Sep 20 @ 7:30 PM
SEAHAWKS
Monday, Sep 28 @ 7:30 PM
CHIEFS
Sunday, Oct 4 @ 3:25 PM
at 49ers
Sunday, Oct 11 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Oct 18 @ 3:25 PM
CHARGERS
Sunday, Oct 25 @ 12:00 AM
- BYE -
Sunday, Nov 1 @ 7:30 PM
at Broncos
Sunday, Nov 8 @ 12:00 PM
at Panthers
Sunday, Nov 15 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 22 @ 3:25 PM
at Vikings
Thursday, Nov 26 @ 7:30 PM
BEARS
Thursday, Dec 3 @ 7:25 PM
at Lions
Sunday, Dec 13 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Sunday, Dec 20 @ 3:05 PM
at Raiders
Sunday, Dec 27 @ 3:25 PM
at Cardinals
Sunday, Jan 3 @ 7:30 PM
VIKINGS

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / packerfanoutwest

4h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

6-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey

6-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

5-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

5-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / musccy

4-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey

4-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / DakotaT

4-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

3-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackerTraxx

2-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan


Tweeter