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Offline Zero2Cool  
#31 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 1:07:11 PM(UTC)
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nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
One negative I will attribute to Rodgers is that his receivers ALL teem to have trouble catching his passes consistently, for whatever reason.


This isn't a Packers issues alone, its an NFL issue, same with tackling. He does not get a pass on this.
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#32 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 1:22:11 PM(UTC)
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This isn't a Packers issues alone, its an NFL issue, same with tackling. He does not get a pass on this.


If it's happening with other teams, then maybe it's the balls they're using.

Don't they have a new rule now where you can't break the balls in before the game or something? Or is that just the K-Ball?
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#33 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 1:32:58 PM(UTC)
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nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
If it's happening with other teams, then maybe it's the balls they're using.

Don't they have a new rule now where you can't break the balls in before the game or something? Or is that just the K-Ball?


Offenses are allowed to break in 'their balls' pregame, but the kicking K-Ball is not. That's at least to what I got from Aaron Rodgers comments last week.

Wiki - While NFL teams are allowed to practice with regular game balls, a "K" Ball is the term used by special teams for a brand new ball, not used until kickoff - hence the term K-Ball.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/...all_in_NFL#ixzz2857V7SJn
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#34 Posted : Monday, October 1, 2012 5:34:30 PM(UTC)
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blueleopard said: Go to Quoted Post
You're the one who made the goddamn post, and now you're changing your own subject. Sit down.

I'm simply saying what Rodgers did today wasn't all that great. It wouldn't even be a comeback if he didn't throw that bonehead interception.

Ryan led his team well within FG range with no timeouts. So he forced it to his bigplay WR. At least he had the balls to take a chance. With Rodgers you'll just see him running around, waiting to get raped by Bruce Irvin.

I'm not at all saying that Ryan is the better QB. Rodgers is, by far. But taking a lead with 8 minutes left to do so is far from qualifying as a clutch score. Much needed, but not clutch. Clutch is when you simply take the game away. Ryan and Brady did it today. Even Griffin did it today. We've also seen Brett doing it for more than a decade.

Aaron's two only clutch wins came against Chicago on that pass to Jennings and the :58 second drive that led to Crosby beating NYG last year.


you dont need to be clutch, as far as last year because he buried teams from the get go, ill take 15-1 over clutch comebacks anytime !!
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#35 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:59:29 AM(UTC)
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Game-winning drives are a notch on every quarterback's belt because, simply put, they prove you're clutch.

You're down by five with 1:37 remaining at your own 17 on 3rd and 12. The QB is the one calling the shots. He is the one rallying his troops to give their team the final chance at victory. None of that crap in the past 3 quarters matters.

It's the same as getting into the post-season. Once you're in, the shit that you did in the regular season goes out the window.

With your back up against the wall, which QB do you want to lead your team?

Rodgers is getting there. Brees, Brady, Manning. They all have that.

Even with the odds of a pick, I'll still take Favre.

Take your 15-1 seasons. If I went 9-7 and won the Super Bowl, I'll take that instead.
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#36 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:27:21 AM(UTC)
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Game-winning drives are a notch on every quarterback's belt because, simply put, they prove you're clutch.

You're down by five with 1:37 remaining at your own 17 on 3rd and 12. The QB is the one calling the shots. He is the one rallying his troops to give their team the final chance at victory. None of that crap in the past 3 quarters matters.

It's the same as getting into the post-season. Once you're in, the shit that you did in the regular season goes out the window.

With your back up against the wall, which QB do you want to lead your team?

Rodgers is getting there. Brees, Brady, Manning. They all have that.

Even with the odds of a pick, I'll still take Favre.

Take your 15-1 seasons. If I went 9-7 and won the Super Bowl, I'll take that instead.


So let's say your QB goes 15-1 and has a good team, so he's not in position to have many comeback opportunities. How do you judge whether he's clutch?

Best third down %age in the history of the game might be of interest.
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#37 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:46:05 AM(UTC)
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nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
So let's say your QB goes 15-1 and has a good team, so he's not in position to have many comeback opportunities. How do you judge whether he's clutch?

Best third down %age in the history of the game might be of interest.


This has been a point that drives me nuts.

Eli is so clutch because he has so many 4th qtr comebacks and Rodgers doesn't.

Well, I ask, why does Eli always need to comeback in the first place? Isn't it better to be ahead so you don't need to come back? Almost 37% of Eli's wins are comebacks. I think I would prefer crappy comeback count and be able to watch from the side or hand the ball off to eat clock to preserve the win.
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Sure, Eli Manning is a clutch QB, I'm fine with that. As nerdmann would say, he's got 2 'rings'.

I'd rather have a QB who dominates all four quarters than just shows up for the fourth.


And yet some people still think its a swipe at Aaron Rodgers because he's not clutch or doesn't have a lot of 4th quarter comebacks ... I dunno.

Eli Manning
W 69 L 50 .580

Aaron Rodgers
W 41 L 21 .661

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#39 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:58:04 AM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Sure, Eli Manning is a clutch QB, I'm fine with that. As nerdmann would say, he's got 2 'rings'.

I'd rather have a QB who dominates all four quarters than just shows up for the fourth.


And yet some people still think its a swipe at Aaron Rodgers because he's not clutch or doesn't have a lot of 4th quarter comebacks ... I dunno.

Eli Manning
W 69 L 50 .580

Aaron Rodgers
W 41 L 21 .661

Shrug


Eli's overrated, imo. BUT, he does have two rings.

I'd consider him over Peyton, but then again I'm crazy.
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#40 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:49:26 AM(UTC)
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nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Eli's overrated, imo. BUT, he does have two rings.

I'd consider him over Peyton, but then again I'm crazy.


Peyton is better in regular season. Eli is way better in post-season. Brett Favre has a better record than Peyton in post-season because Favre can carry a team on his back (or lose a game all by himself). Peyton can't do that.

Eli is clutch in post-season. I hate the guy. But historically, he has been clutch in post-season.

Now if you look at Aaron Rodgers in post-season, he's 4-2 so far. The first game he lost, he had a 121.4 rating, which should have been good enough for a win in 99% of Playoff games. Problem was, our D stunk and allowed Kurt Warner to have a similar performance.

2010 of course we won a SB and Aaron got SB MVP.

2011, he laid down a turd against the Giants. But so did Brett. I think the Giants have our number in post-season. Today's Giants are our Cows of the 90s. If we're gonna win it all, it's best if we avoid playing them.
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