Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
3 Pages123>
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:33:23 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Joined: 9/26/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 23
Applause Received: 853
Just some off the wall thinking.

One of the issues for our defense in coverage I believe is the loss of Collins. He had the speed to play sideline to sideline. Giving out CB confidence that they can play more aggressive off the line, trail coverage and know Nick would be there deep to help if needed. We don't have that anymore. If we want to protect the CB deep, we need 2 guys where Nick managed himself.

Now with the NFL rules today, having a hard hitting FS isn't that important. Because it ends up in penalties. Shields is the fastest guy we have, and he has shown his ability to close on plays. Often to bail himself out. I'm wondering how it would work having Sammy sitting in center field, it would again give us that sideline to sideline presence in the secondary for deep help to break up plays, or go for the ball and get picks.

Offline Porforis  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:39:31 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

United States
Joined: 8/22/2009(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Applause Given: 246
Applause Received: 497
I think we'd have more speed with shields, but adjusting to a new position in the middle of the season without any obvious replacement for Shields doesn't make sense to me. Another thing Collins had was reliability - Unless I'm remembering things wrong, it was fairly rare that he'd blow coverage and be out of position.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:44:24 AM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,346
Applause Received: 3,634
Nick Collins didn't blow many coverages because he wasn't really assigned to cover someone and was faster than everyone lol ... that's not a knock on Collins, it was a helluva an asset for the Packers.


Considering how much Sam Shields like to scope out the backfield, maybe being Safety would be a good thing for next season? I too don't think changing positions after 5 games when he's starting to come into his own is a wise decision. As for replacing Shields, easy, that guy Charles Woodson.
Offline nerdmann  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:59:30 AM(UTC)
Rank: Preferred Member

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 5,537
Applause Received: 1,277
McMillian's got speed. He's coming along pretty nicely.
Offline Porforis  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:01:13 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

United States
Joined: 8/22/2009(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Applause Given: 246
Applause Received: 497
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
Nick Collins didn't blow many coverages because he wasn't really assigned to cover someone and was faster than everyone lol ... that's not a knock on Collins, it was a helluva an asset for the Packers.


Considering how much Sam Shields like to scope out the backfield, maybe being Safety would be a good thing for next season? I too don't think changing positions after 5 games when he's starting to come into his own is a wise decision. As for replacing Shields, easy, that guy Charles Woodson.


In base defense, you restrict what you can do with Woodson a lot more by tying him to the cornerback position. That's not to say it would strictly be a bad thing though, Chuck can certainly do a lot for you as a CB. In nickel/dime, he'd be a corner anyways so if Woodson is going to be #2 (or #3, I forget which Shields is), who's going to take HIS spot? And that person's spot?
Offline Zero2Cool  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:12:41 AM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,346
Applause Received: 3,634
Porforis said: Go to Quoted Post
In base defense, you restrict what you can do with Woodson a lot more by tying him to the cornerback position. That's not to say it would strictly be a bad thing though, Chuck can certainly do a lot for you as a CB. In nickel/dime, he'd be a corner anyways so if Woodson is going to be #2 (or #3, I forget which Shields is), who's going to take HIS spot? And that person's spot?


You're making this more difficult than it truly is, or I'm freaking missing the boat!

Current
LCB - Tramon Williams
RCB - Sam Shields

FS - Morgan Burnett
SS - Charles Woodson


Proposed
LCB - Tramon Williams
RCB - Charles Woodson

FS - Sam Shields
SS - Morgan Burnett



That is the end of the trickle down effect. The nickel back is still Casey Hayward and the dime back is still ... shit whoever it is.

Offline zombieslayer  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:42:58 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

Joined: 8/7/2008(UTC)
Location: San Francisco
Applause Given: 778
Applause Received: 495
No.

Shields is a damn good coverage CB but an average at best tackler.
Offline Porforis  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:48:37 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

United States
Joined: 8/22/2009(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Applause Given: 246
Applause Received: 497
Blah blah I'm a stupid idiot that spends 10 minutes writing an in-depth explanation then realizes I'm completely misreading things.
thanks Post received 1 applause.
gbguy20 on 10/2/2012(UTC)
Offline Zero2Cool  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:58:40 AM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,346
Applause Received: 3,634
Porforis said: Go to Quoted Post
Blah blah I'm a stupid idiot that spends 10 minutes writing an in-depth explanation then realizes I'm completely misreading things.


I've got about 21,000 examples of that myself.
Offline Porforis  
#10 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 12:04:49 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

United States
Joined: 8/22/2009(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Applause Given: 246
Applause Received: 497
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I've got about 21,000 examples of that myself.


Posts: 20,924

At least you're consistent.
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
3 Pages123>
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
wpr (3h): Happy birthday Matt
Zero2Cool (4h): PACKERSHOME » Lombardi Avenue » Announcements » Minor PACKERSHOME facelift
Zero2Cool (4h): Welcome to PACKERSHOME, gbguy20! :D
gbguy20 (4h): what happened to the twitter feed?
Zero2Cool (5h): Matt is getting old!! Today's Birthdays: porky88 (28)
Smokey (19h): NFL Football tonight on NBC !
uffda udfa (21h): Cancer sucks. Claims children and others way too young. Sorry, 4 your loss.
yinzer (25-Aug): wpr, I'm sorry to hear of your loss
Cheesey (23-Aug): Wow, Wayne. Sorry to hear about that. It's never easy to lose a loved one, no matter what age.
Zero2Cool (22-Aug): Sorry, Wayne. :-(
wpr (22-Aug): Lost a friend to Pancreatic cancer. Bummed. He was only 55. Hard working dairy farmer. I am not sure if his kids will be up to the task.
Zero2Cool (21-Aug): Yes
LSUzilla (21-Aug): is there a prize for the pickem game this year?
Smokey (19-Aug): Mexican Mucky , your a genius ! Chimichangas !
Smokey (19-Aug): Sorry Zero, wilted lettuce does not qualify . LOL
Mucky Tundra (19-Aug): beef
Zero2Cool (19-Aug): ... me
Smokey (19-Aug): Meat of the day ? Chicken, Fish, or Pork ?
Smokey (15-Aug): Still Recruiting, The Tailgaters Fantasy Football League
Zero2Cool (15-Aug): Lions sign TE Andrew Quarless
Zero2Cool (15-Aug): I got sound working last night! Woohoo!
Smokey (13-Aug): Then , Maybe Not
buckeyepackfan (12-Aug): GAMEDAY NIGHT!!!!(sort of) GO! PACK! GO!
Zero2Cool (11-Aug): load it up billy!!
Smokey (10-Aug): Rugby reminds me of my childhood when the neighborhood lads all played "fumble ball" .
Smokey (10-Aug): I tune in for Olympic Archery and get half naked women playing in the sand ! Life is good !
Smokey (10-Aug): Still, The Shadow Knows .
Zero2Cool (10-Aug): You'll have to tune in Friday evening to find out. Dun dun dunnnnn!!!! ??
Smokey (10-Aug): Will the Browns game be in the Chat ?
gbguy20 (7-Aug): game cancelled.
Smokey (7-Aug): What's going on with the Chat , dhazer ?
gbguy20 (7-Aug): come onnnnnnnn
gbguy20 (7-Aug): why arent we streaming the speeches
Mucky Tundra (6-Aug): From Green Bay to New Orleans...two couldn't be further apart
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

Road To Super Bowl LI
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 12:00 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 12:00 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
57m / Green Bay Packers Talk / mi_keys

58m / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Smokey

3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / steveishere

5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

16h / Football Familiarity / Smokey

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

21h / Around The NFL / Smokey

25-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / gotarace

25-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Smokey

25-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackerTraxx

24-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Barfarn

24-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

24-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / sschind


Packers Headlines