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Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:33:23 AM(UTC)
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Just some off the wall thinking.

One of the issues for our defense in coverage I believe is the loss of Collins. He had the speed to play sideline to sideline. Giving out CB confidence that they can play more aggressive off the line, trail coverage and know Nick would be there deep to help if needed. We don't have that anymore. If we want to protect the CB deep, we need 2 guys where Nick managed himself.

Now with the NFL rules today, having a hard hitting FS isn't that important. Because it ends up in penalties. Shields is the fastest guy we have, and he has shown his ability to close on plays. Often to bail himself out. I'm wondering how it would work having Sammy sitting in center field, it would again give us that sideline to sideline presence in the secondary for deep help to break up plays, or go for the ball and get picks.

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:39:31 AM(UTC)
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I think we'd have more speed with shields, but adjusting to a new position in the middle of the season without any obvious replacement for Shields doesn't make sense to me. Another thing Collins had was reliability - Unless I'm remembering things wrong, it was fairly rare that he'd blow coverage and be out of position.
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Nick Collins didn't blow many coverages because he wasn't really assigned to cover someone and was faster than everyone lol ... that's not a knock on Collins, it was a helluva an asset for the Packers.


Considering how much Sam Shields like to scope out the backfield, maybe being Safety would be a good thing for next season? I too don't think changing positions after 5 games when he's starting to come into his own is a wise decision. As for replacing Shields, easy, that guy Charles Woodson.
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McMillian's got speed. He's coming along pretty nicely.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:01:13 AM(UTC)
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Nick Collins didn't blow many coverages because he wasn't really assigned to cover someone and was faster than everyone lol ... that's not a knock on Collins, it was a helluva an asset for the Packers.


Considering how much Sam Shields like to scope out the backfield, maybe being Safety would be a good thing for next season? I too don't think changing positions after 5 games when he's starting to come into his own is a wise decision. As for replacing Shields, easy, that guy Charles Woodson.


In base defense, you restrict what you can do with Woodson a lot more by tying him to the cornerback position. That's not to say it would strictly be a bad thing though, Chuck can certainly do a lot for you as a CB. In nickel/dime, he'd be a corner anyways so if Woodson is going to be #2 (or #3, I forget which Shields is), who's going to take HIS spot? And that person's spot?
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In base defense, you restrict what you can do with Woodson a lot more by tying him to the cornerback position. That's not to say it would strictly be a bad thing though, Chuck can certainly do a lot for you as a CB. In nickel/dime, he'd be a corner anyways so if Woodson is going to be #2 (or #3, I forget which Shields is), who's going to take HIS spot? And that person's spot?


You're making this more difficult than it truly is, or I'm freaking missing the boat!

Current
LCB - Tramon Williams
RCB - Sam Shields

FS - Morgan Burnett
SS - Charles Woodson


Proposed
LCB - Tramon Williams
RCB - Charles Woodson

FS - Sam Shields
SS - Morgan Burnett



That is the end of the trickle down effect. The nickel back is still Casey Hayward and the dime back is still ... shit whoever it is.

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No.

Shields is a damn good coverage CB but an average at best tackler.
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Blah blah I'm a stupid idiot that spends 10 minutes writing an in-depth explanation then realizes I'm completely misreading things.
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Blah blah I'm a stupid idiot that spends 10 minutes writing an in-depth explanation then realizes I'm completely misreading things.


I've got about 21,000 examples of that myself.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, October 2, 2012 12:04:49 PM(UTC)
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Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
I've got about 21,000 examples of that myself.


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At least you're consistent.
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