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Offline zombieslayer  
#51 Posted : Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:11:46 AM(UTC)
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I think if Brett Favre started playing 10-12 years later, he'd be unanimously considered the best quarterback off all time. He took major risks and in this league now, those risks are heavily rewarded. My lord, can you imagine that?? I think 50 TD's would damn near be the norm for him, especially with pass happy McCarthy.


Didn't think of that. That's probably true.
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#52 Posted : Saturday, October 27, 2012 9:59:17 AM(UTC)
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This article is three months old. Not sure if anyone posted it here, but I found it an interesting read.

If you have nothing else to do this fine Saturday here is a read for you.

http://www.coldhardfootb...nt-fourth-quarter/15278/
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#53 Posted : Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:25:58 PM(UTC)
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Thanks RP.
It is a good, if somewhat disturbing, read.
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#54 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 7:13:30 AM(UTC)
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RaiderPride said: Go to Quoted Post
This article is three months old. Not sure if anyone posted it here, but I found it an interesting read.

If you have nothing else to do this fine Saturday here is a read for you.

http://www.coldhardfootb...nt-fourth-quarter/15278/


Some people are trying to hard to make Rodgers out to be a bad QB. Why do they ignore facts like Eli (mr clutch of today) almost 40% of his career wins have been comebacks? Rodgers <20%. Why is that? To me it seems like Eli is consistenlty behind teams they should be beating. Where Rodgers beats and/or is playing from ahead against those teams. Leaving Rodgers comeback chances against tougher competition overall.
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#55 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 7:17:32 AM(UTC)
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PackFanWithTwins said: Go to Quoted Post
Some people are trying to hard to make Rodgers out to be a bad QB. Why do they ignore facts like Eli (mr clutch of today) almost 40% of his career wins have been comebacks? Rodgers <20%. Why is that? To me it seems like Eli is consistenlty behind teams they should be beating. Where Rodgers beats and/or is playing from ahead against those teams. Leaving Rodgers comeback chances against tougher competition overall.


That's why comebacks are over rated. If you play well to begin with, you don't need to come back.
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#56 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 7:26:17 AM(UTC)
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PackerTraxx said: Go to Quoted Post
That's why comebacks are over rated. If you play well to begin with, you don't need to come back.


That. Kind of disappointing that Kacsmar spent so much time and effort on that article, without analyzing metrics that put the stats into perspective. How do Rodgers' Q1-3 stats and points scored compare to the rest of the league? How do those stats compare to the Packers' opponents? The ability to take charge when the game is slipping away and drive down the field for a TD is huge, but so is the ability to put the other team out of it early.
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#57 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 8:55:36 AM(UTC)
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Just being curious i wonder in how many of those losses were the Packers up in the 4th quarter. I could remember at least 3 or 4 in 08.
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That's why comebacks are over rated. If you play well to begin with, you don't need to come back.


I would rather go into the 4th Q with a 20+ point lead.
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#59 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 9:59:57 AM(UTC)
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I would rather go into the 4th Q with a 20+ point lead.


Assuming the defense doesn't give up quick scores and the offense can at least get some first downs to burn time off the clock. There've been too many heart attack games where we HAVE been ahead by 2+ scores going into the fourth for a lifetime the last few years.
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#60 Posted : Monday, October 29, 2012 10:06:55 AM(UTC)
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The comeback stat for a QB... the biggest pile of dung in sports.

Example.. I am sure the Cutler gets a win for yesterday in terms of this vaulted stat.. but really the defenses pick six saved their ass. Sure, Cutler helped set up the game winner.. but without the pick six.. the Bears offense was in trouble.

Media hype tool.. the variable of a football game are too vast to lay it all on this stat.

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