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all_about_da_packers  
#1 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 1:46:05 PM(UTC)
I don't know what to say.

Ether McCarthy has lost his mind and can't understand how critical it is for us to run the ball and have balance.

Or Rodgers is killing runs, in which case limit his run/pass option calls.

Or Ted has F'd up and left McCarthy with a stable of RBs behind Benson that are utterly inept.

Our insistence on passing is just ludicrous now.
Pack93z  
#2 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 1:47:57 PM(UTC)
I get that Benson got hurt, but abandoning the run just allowed the Colts to tee off.

But running the ball doesn't help cover Wayne today.. that guy willed the Colts to a win. Incredible display of catching with the hands.
Zero2Cool  
#3 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 1:51:08 PM(UTC)
Someone did lots of research. Running the ball doesn't equal wins.
nerdmann  
#4 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 1:52:37 PM(UTC)
all_about_da_packers said: Go to Quoted Post
I don't know what to say.

Ether McCarthy has lost his mind and can't understand how critical it is for us to run the ball and have balance.

Or Rodgers is killing runs, in which case limit his run/pass option calls.

Or Ted has F'd up and left McCarthy with a stable of RBs behind Benson that are utterly inept.

Our insistence on passing is just ludicrous now.


Arodge's insistence on holding the ball for 8 seconds isn't helping.

Time for him to take a seat until such time as he decides to pull his head out.
all_about_da_packers  
#5 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 1:53:16 PM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
I get that Benson got hurt, but abandoning the run just allowed the Colts to tee off.

But running the ball doesn't help cover Wayne today.. that guy willed the Colts to a win. Incredible display of catching with the hands.


Wayne showed he still has something left in the tank.

But you get something going on offense, you keep their offense off the field. Even if you are just moving the chains, you are giving your D time to rest and have a bit of a fresher pass-rush.

Additionally, you have pressure being taken off the O-line. As well as limiting Rodgers holding the ball when he can clearly get rid of it to his receiver who has a good chance at the ball.

I've rarely questioned McCarthy as a coach, because so much of the game plays out after the play is called. But I really question what the hell he is doing with his play calling; I am not so sure that he is putting his players in the best position to make plays. That's a huge problem.
zombieslayer  
#6 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 1:54:20 PM(UTC)
Reggie Wayne beat us. Last I checked, Reggie Wayne was a WR on the Colts, not a RB for the Packers.
all_about_da_packers  
#7 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 1:55:57 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Arodge's insistence on holding the ball for 8 seconds isn't helping.

Time for him to take a seat until such time as he decides to pull his head out.


Totally agree that Rodgers is part of the problem, but are you serious? You want to bench Rodgers for Harrell. For Graham f'n Harrell?!

I'd say McCarthy should emphasize more of a shorter passing game. But, frankly, I don't know if he's competent enough to know how to hold the friggin play call sheet.
Zero2Cool  
#8 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 1:56:47 PM(UTC)
zombieslayer said: Go to Quoted Post
Reggie Wayne beat us. Last I checked, Reggie Wayne was a WR on the Colts, not a RB for the Packers.


27 points should win a game, if the defense shows up. Unfortunately, the Packers defense was on the field 35:16 of the game because the Packers offense couldn't sustain a drive and move the chains.
Wade  
#9 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 1:57:59 PM(UTC)
Did anyone notice whether the dominant pass coverage was zone or man this game?

all_about_da_packers  
#10 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 1:59:45 PM(UTC)
zombieslayer said: Go to Quoted Post
Reggie Wayne beat us. Last I checked, Reggie Wayne was a WR on the Colts, not a RB for the Packers.


The Colts had around 18/19 min TOP in 2nd half. We could not get anything going at all, let alone sustain drives. You do the latter, you can keep the other Offense off the field.
nerdmann  
#11 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:00:23 PM(UTC)
Wade said: Go to Quoted Post
Did anyone notice whether the dominant pass coverage was zone or man this game?



Dunno, but Capers brought the kitchen sink on that last drive.

I thought you guys would like that. LOL
nerdmann  
#12 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:01:11 PM(UTC)
all_about_da_packers said: Go to Quoted Post
The Colts had around 18/19 min TOP in 2nd half. We could not get anything going at all, let alone sustain drives. You do the latter, you can keep the other Offense off the field.

Mike McCarthy doesn't have slightest care about time of possession.

ToP is a WCO issue, not a run and shoot concept.
all_about_da_packers  
#13 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:01:35 PM(UTC)
Wade said: Go to Quoted Post
Did anyone notice whether the dominant pass coverage was zone or man this game?



Tramon seemed to be allowed to play more press coverage, but when Wayne was lining up from the slot it forced Woodson and Burnett to play man (not press). That's what it appeared to me, at least.
Wade  
#14 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:01:59 PM(UTC)
nerdmann said: Go to Quoted Post
Dunno, but Capers brought the kitchen sink on that last drive.

I thought you guys would like that. LOL


Well, I did like it better than the 3-man rush approach.

If the kitchen sink wasn't plugged up, it would have worked. The 3-man rush would have failed regardless. :)

gotarace  
#15 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 2:08:45 PM(UTC)
Wade said: Go to Quoted Post
Well, I did like it better than the 3-man rush approach.

If the kitchen sink wasn't plugged up, it would have worked. The 3-man rush would have failed regardless. :)


I have to give Luck some credit here also...his pocket presence was exceptional and he stepped up in the pocket making accurate throws under pressure. This kid doesn't look like a rookie.
zombieslayer  
#16 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 3:52:57 PM(UTC)
gotarace said: Go to Quoted Post
I have to give Luck some credit here also...his pocket presence was exceptional and he stepped up in the pocket making accurate throws under pressure. This kid doesn't look like a rookie.


Yeah, I was saying that during the chat. Luck looked really good. Our D got in his face a lot and yet Luck pulled out points when he had to.

I do think that instead of complaining about how bad we were, we should admit that Reggie Wayne DESERVED the game ball. That guy was unstoppable. He somehow came up with the ball no matter what we did.

We were actually putting some good pressure on Luck too. But as you just said, his pocket presence was exceptional. Indy lucked out (no pun intended) being the worst team last year. If Luck plays 10 years, I can see him being one of the NFL's better QBs.
yooperfan  
#17 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 4:51:31 PM(UTC)
Pack93z said: Go to Quoted Post
I get that Benson got hurt, but abandoning the run just allowed the Colts to tee off.

But running the ball doesn't help cover Wayne today.. that guy willed the Colts to a win. Incredible display of catching with the hands.


And they had a rookie QB that just refused to lose.

Pack93z  
#18 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 4:53:18 PM(UTC)
all_about_da_packers said: Go to Quoted Post
Wayne showed he still has something left in the tank.

But you get something going on offense, you keep their offense off the field. Even if you are just moving the chains, you are giving your D time to rest and have a bit of a fresher pass-rush.

Additionally, you have pressure being taken off the O-line. As well as limiting Rodgers holding the ball when he can clearly get rid of it to his receiver who has a good chance at the ball.

I've rarely questioned McCarthy as a coach, because so much of the game plays out after the play is called. But I really question what the hell he is doing with his play calling; I am not so sure that he is putting his players in the best position to make plays. That's a huge problem.


I don't disagree, and I have made the same pleas. It is evident from the outside looking in, so I wonder what we are not seeing from within?

Today I think he was scared away from the run with Benson going down.. but maybe late success with Green will change that. We shall see.

I really am not that upset with this loss... we lost that game on the field, we were beaten by a hungry and determined team. That is a compliment to the Colts today.
shield4life  
#19 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 4:59:45 PM(UTC)
Missing Greg Jennings has a bigger impact on this team then we've imagined. We need him back and healthy 100% it's killing us! Trade Finley this off season and re-sign GJ.

Our WR has disappeared this year and our o-line ... pathetic ...

We need to keep pounding the ball with Benson / Starks / Green!
Pack93z  
#20 Posted : Sunday, October 7, 2012 5:03:55 PM(UTC)
shield4life said: Go to Quoted Post

Our WR has disappeared this year and our o-line ... pathetic ...

We need to keep pounding the ball with Benson / Starks / Green!


I will disagree, the offensive line play today was fine. Actually the Tackles were damn near perfect today. We can't expect to drop back almost every snap and not expect the defense to just tee off on it.

So yes.. to the second part of the quote.. but oline play and pathetic today don't belong together. IMO.

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