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User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#21 Posted : Monday, October 8, 2012 6:09:12 PM(UTC)
play2win said: Go to Quoted Post


The real genius is Dakota T, for summing up our teams problems in two simple words: "NO FOCUS" - that is a top-down problem. We had so many players underperform yesterday, at nearly every position on the team, which speaks directly to Mike McCarthy and an ill-prepared team.



Thanks man, it's a gift. But I don't usually take compliments well. I like being abused.

Hey VR - fuck you buddy!
StoicFire  
#22 Posted : Monday, October 8, 2012 6:15:22 PM(UTC)
play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
No. Sorry, but this statement just does not hold water, not now. Prepared? How? Accountable? How? By saying he has to "fix this" in his post-game presser? Really? An intelligent, prepared and accountable coach will recognize a shift in momentum and make the necessary adjustments.

The real genius is Dakota T, for summing up our teams problems in two simple words: "NO FOCUS" - that is a top-down problem. We had so many players underperform yesterday, at nearly every position on the team, which speaks directly to Mike McCarthy and an ill-prepared team.

Accountability would have been on display had McCarthy fixed what went wrong in SEA. He didn't. Yesterday's 2nd half was the exact same story, different day, different team, same mistakes.


A bad result makes us all focus on what just happened and forget about the big picture. He is very prepared and very intelligent whether people want to admit it after a bad loss or not.

You said it yourself... so many players underperformed Sunday. Who is REALLY at fault when they [the players] underperform? McCarthy took responsibility because that is what good leaders do. And yeah, I do believe that McCarthy was caught off guard when Benson was lost to injury. I also believe that Capers was caught off guard when Raji was lost to injury. But neither of those things change my respect for either of those coaches.

Honestly though, I shouldn't have to defend these guys. Twenty years from now I'm sure I'll pay a visit to the McCarthy exhibit of the Packers Hall of Fame.
DarkaneRules  
#23 Posted : Monday, October 8, 2012 6:28:17 PM(UTC)
We could get creative on offense with the guys we have. Wish the coaches wanted to do that...
buckeyepackfan  
#24 Posted : Monday, October 8, 2012 6:32:29 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
40 yd dash
Randall Cobb - 4.46
Alex Green - 4.53


20 yd shuttle
Randall Cobb - 4.34
Alex Green - 4.15



http://www.nfl.com/draft...es/alex-green?id=2495287
http://www.nfl.com/draft.../randall-cobb?id=2495448


Brandon Saine

40yd dash - 4.40
20 yd shuttle 4.25

http://insider.espn.go.c..._/id/27259/brandon-saine
go.pack.go.  
#25 Posted : Monday, October 8, 2012 6:39:17 PM(UTC)
Zero2Cool said: Go to Quoted Post
40 yd dash
Randall Cobb - 4.46
Alex Green - 4.53


20 yd shuttle
Randall Cobb - 4.34
Alex Green - 4.15



http://www.nfl.com/draft...es/alex-green?id=2495287
http://www.nfl.com/draft.../randall-cobb?id=2495448


Track time is way different than football speed though. I think it's obvious when you compare the two running on the football field that Randall Cobb is the one with elite speed.
User is suspended until 5/28/2018 11:54:40 AM(UTC) DakotaT  
#26 Posted : Monday, October 8, 2012 6:54:26 PM(UTC)
You guys can take your stats and well, you know. Football games are won by the team that blocks, tackles, and executes better. All these stats and speed times is for, well, dumbasses. We are getting our asses kicked at the line of scrimmage and that is why we are losing football games.
play2win  
#27 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:30:31 AM(UTC)
StoicFire said: Go to Quoted Post
A bad result makes us all focus on what just happened and forget about the big picture. He is very prepared and very intelligent whether people want to admit it after a bad loss or not.

You said it yourself... so many players underperformed Sunday. Who is REALLY at fault when they [the players] underperform? McCarthy took responsibility because that is what good leaders do. And yeah, I do believe that McCarthy was caught off guard when Benson was lost to injury. I also believe that Capers was caught off guard when Raji was lost to injury. But neither of those things change my respect for either of those coaches.

Honestly though, I shouldn't have to defend these guys. Twenty years from now I'm sure I'll pay a visit to the McCarthy exhibit of the Packers Hall of Fame.


Yeah, I love the guy too. I respect him as a head coach of the Packers. I also think he showed exemplarary class in his handling of two horribly officiated games.

However, who coined "Next man up" as our mantra? If you don't have faith in that, then what is it really? He should have run with Green, Kuhn & Cobb more to take the heat off of Rodgers. TJ Lang said as much.

Run what you brung!

As for losing Raji, Capers & McCarthy should have had a plan for that, especially with him having already suffered an ankle injury. Part of that is on Thompson. I did not like our lack of depth at NT with our final roster. I was shocked they let Muir go. All of our problems on D last year stemmed from lack of quality personnel & depth on our DL.
Zero2Cool  
#28 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:42:23 AM(UTC)
play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
As for losing Raji, Capers & McCarthy should have had a plan for that, especially with him having already suffered an ankle injury. Part of that is on Thompson. I did not like our lack of depth at NT with our final roster. I was shocked they let Muir go. All of our problems on D last year stemmed from lack of quality personnel & depth on our DL.


You can only activate 46 guys on game day. Keep that in mind when you're blasting everyone for not having a plan to replace every single possible player. And consider one kicker, one punter and one long snapper, that puts you to 43 players. 22 starting positions, down to 21 of which one is a backup qb who is basically useless unless actually needed so really down to 20 to fill 21 positions. In other words, its nearly impossible to have a plan for everything.
play2win  
#29 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:02:00 AM(UTC)
Yeah Z2C, I hate that rule! A team ahould be able to use all 53 on their roster, especially with the new concussion rules.
Zero2Cool  
#30 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:05:48 AM(UTC)
play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
Yeah Z2C, I hate that rule! A team ahould be able to use all 53 on their roster, especially with the new concussion rules.


True, but the rule is there to keep each team having the same amount of active players for each game. If you have a roster activation limit of 53 and one team has 3 guys hurt and the other team has 0 guys hurt, then the healthier team has an advantage. If you drop it to 46, then both teams will suit the same amount of players, thus in the NFL's view ... equally any possible competitive advantage from health concerns.
play2win  
#31 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:25:09 AM(UTC)
Bigger point concerning this thread, McCarthy (& his staff) has to get all 46 players who are active, focused on winning. If you are holding to a mantra of "next man up," you can't go away from running the ball when Benson goes down.

My point on Raji, is they knew he was already dinged. Where is his assigned backup on the 46? Neal is not a NT. Guess we don't have one, and that's a problem.
Zero2Cool  
#32 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:29:44 AM(UTC)
Charles Woodson said:
We’ve got to win the next one. We’ve put ourselves in a hole. The only thing you can hang your hat on is that it’s still early in the season and you’ve got a long way to go.


This kind of comment comes off as a lack of urgency to me. You've got 11 games left, that means over 30% of your season is IN THE BOOKS. It's not early in the season anymore. The Bears and Vikings are both at 4 wins. Think about that. It's time to get your ass in gear, but shit, that should have started five weeks ago so why we expecting it to now all the sudden? Oh yea, because 2010 the Packers were 3 - 3 and won it all.

I'm not burying them ... just frustrated at hearing the same lines over and over from the leaders and coaches. Hopefully there is urgency in the locker room that is not trickled into interviews.


And for the love of God, Jermichael Finley, have a break out game would you??? Greg Jennings stepped up when you went down 2010, return the mother fucking favor you ~$8 million drop-ass!
DarkaneRules  
#33 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 1:52:34 PM(UTC)
Haha Finley is a problematic superstar. He doesn't have the drive of someone like Gonzalez but then again our coaching staff doesn't seem to use Finley that well.
PackFanWithTwins  
#34 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:40:24 PM(UTC)
play2win said: Go to Quoted Post
Bigger point concerning this thread, McCarthy (& his staff) has to get all 46 players who are active, focused on winning. If you are holding to a mantra of "next man up," you can't go away from running the ball when Benson goes down.

My point on Raji, is they knew he was already dinged. Where is his assigned backup on the 46? Neal is not a NT. Guess we don't have one, and that's a problem.


Pickett is his backup, and is a true NT not a DE. Neal is a DE.
blueleopard  
#35 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:58:29 AM(UTC)
Makes you wonder how much this team really misses Joe Philbin.
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