Green Bay Packers Forum

Welcome to your Green Bay Packers Online Community!

Since 2006, PackersHome has been providing a unique experience for fans.
Your participation is greatly anticipated!
Login or Register.
3 Pages123>
Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
Offline Zero2Cool  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:53:35 AM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2016ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,498
Applause Received: 4,034
Previously I said they had two drives under 30 seconds. I was penalizing them for a drive incorrectly.

Here are four of the three and outs they had.

Code:

0:21	GB 43	3	6	Punt
0:50	GB 32	3	1	Punt
0:52	GB 20	3	-1	Punt
0:58	GB 20	3	-8	Punt


Four drives that ate up just over 3 minutes!!

:50 drive
1-10-GB 32 (10:20) (Shotgun) 20-A.Green left tackle to GB 33 for 1 yard (93-D.Freeney).
2-9-GB 33 (9:49) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete short right to 80-D.Driver.
3-9-GB 33 (9:42) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete short left to 87-J.Nelson.


:21 drive
1-10-GB 43 (1:17) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass short right to 30-J.Kuhn pushed ob at GB 49 for 6 yards (50-J.Freeman).
2-4-GB 49 (1:12) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete short right to 87-J.Nelson.
3-4-GB 49 (1:07) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete short right to 88-J.Finley (38-S.Brown).


:58 drive
1-10-GB 20 (11:06) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete short left to 89-Ja.Jones.
2-10-GB 20 (11:03) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers sacked at GB 15 for -5 yards (90-C.Redding).
3-15-GB 15 (10:28) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers scrambles left end to GB 17 for 2 yards. 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete short left to 88-J.Finley. PENALTY on GB-12-A.Rodgers, Illegal Forward Pass, 5 yards, enforced at GB 17.


:52 drive
1-10-GB 20 (:18) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete short left to 18-R.Cobb. PENALTY on IND-32-C.Vaughn, Defensive Holding, 5 yards, enforced at GB 20 - No Play.
1-10-GB 25 (:15) (Shotgun) 20-A.Green up the middle to GB 23 for -2 yards (55-J.Hickman).
END QUARTER 3
2-12-GB 23 (15:00) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep middle to 84-D.Williams.
3-12-GB 23 (14:57) (Shotgun) 12-A.Rodgers sacked at GB 19 for -4 yards (93-D.Freeney).






Got Shotgun anyone?
thanks Post received 1 applause.
Wade on 10/9/2012(UTC)
Offline play2win  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:02:46 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

United States
Joined: 3/29/2012(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee
Applause Given: 1,076
Applause Received: 724
12 pass plays to 2 run plays in 4, uh, drives... only 3 minutes??? Wow. This Packers offense OWES their defense. Big time.

Balance. We are completely out of balance. Keep this up and Rodgers will get injured. We'll then have to use Graham Harrell, and you know what? We'll win, because we were forced to run the frickin' football.
Offline Zero2Cool  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:03:42 AM(UTC)
Rank: Premier Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2015Yahoo! Fantasy Football - Gold: 2009FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Silver: 2011FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2016ESPN NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2010Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Bronze: 2013

United States
Joined: 10/13/2006(UTC)
Location: Green Bay, WI
Applause Given: 2,498
Applause Received: 4,034
On the :21 drive, Nelson and Finley were both credited with drops.
Offline play2win  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:08:23 AM(UTC)
Rank: Registered

United States
Joined: 3/29/2012(UTC)
Location: Milwaukee
Applause Given: 1,076
Applause Received: 724
Both Finley and Nelson are tied for 5th in the NFL for drops with 4 each.

http://hosted.stats.com/...p;range=NFL&rank=232
Offline nerdmann  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:24:36 AM(UTC)
Rank: Preferred Member

Joined: 9/14/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 6,397
Applause Received: 1,418
Time of possession is a WCO concept.

Apparently it's a matter of complete indifference in the Run and Shoot.
Offline Wade  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 2:34:56 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Joined: 8/1/2009(UTC)
Location: nowhere of importance
Applause Given: 891
Applause Received: 923
IMO, the problem isn't the pass/run ratio. It's the shotgun/non-shotgun ratio.

thanks Post received 1 applause.
Gaycandybacon on 10/10/2012(UTC)
Offline macbob  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:11:50 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2013Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2016PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2014FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2012PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Silver: 2012FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2014

Joined: 10/12/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 371
Applause Received: 323
Wade said: Go to Quoted Post
IMO, the problem isn't the pass/run ratio. It's the shotgun/non-shotgun ratio.



Wade, I agree a lot with the shotguns being a problem. Using ESPN for the play-by-play, in the Colts game, Mike McCarthy mixed it up pretty well in the first quarter, with 8 plays from the running formation and 6 from the shotgun.

That changed dramatically beginning in the second quarter: 17 of the 19 plays run were from the shotgun. 3rd qtr: 12 of 17 plays run from the shotgun. 4th qtr: 11 of the 15 plays were from the shotgun.

So, after the first quarter only 11 of our 51 plays were from a running formation, the other 40 were from the shotgun.

But I would argue it's really both. You have to run it enough to make the LBs, etc respect your play action fakes, which slows down the pass rush and freezes the LBs--helping your receivers get open by opening up the middle of the field.

Houston in the Mon night game gave a clinic on running the ball from under center, then running a play-action pass. I just hope Mike McCarthy is taking notes during the film study for this week's opponent.

thanks Post received 2 applause.
Wade on 10/9/2012(UTC), Zero2Cool on 10/9/2012(UTC)
Offline Wade  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:44:02 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Joined: 8/1/2009(UTC)
Location: nowhere of importance
Applause Given: 891
Applause Received: 923
macbob said: Go to Quoted Post
Wade, I agree a lot with the shotguns being a problem. Using ESPN for the play-by-play, in the Colts game, Mike McCarthy mixed it up pretty well in the first quarter, with 8 plays from the running formation and 6 from the shotgun.

That changed dramatically beginning in the second quarter: 17 of the 19 plays run were from the shotgun. 3rd qtr: 12 of 17 plays run from the shotgun. 4th qtr: 11 of the 15 plays were from the shotgun.

So, after the first quarter only 11 of our 51 plays were from a running formation, the other 40 were from the shotgun.

But I would argue it's really both. You have to run it enough to make the LBs, etc respect your play action fakes, which slows down the pass rush and freezes the LBs--helping your receivers get open by opening up the middle of the field.

Houston in the Mon night game gave a clinic on running the ball from under center, then running a play-action pass. I just hope Mike McCarthy is taking notes during the film study for this week's opponent.



Good detail here, macbob. I'm glad people like you and Kevin are willing to go back and look things up so lazy, shoot-from-the-hipsters like me can continue to lazily shoot from the hip.

[grin1]
Offline gbguy20  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:16:55 PM(UTC)
Rank: Senior Member

Joined: 8/28/2009(UTC)
Applause Given: 460
Applause Received: 496
Mccarthy essentially gave up on the run the minute Cedric went down. Granted, Alex Green was fucking terrible on all but 1 play so during the game I didn't hold it against him too much.

I was going to end it with "but damn those numbers," but when u look at Alex Green's number before his long run....you just want to say "damn those numbers" about those too.

IDK, I can't hold it against him THIS WEEK.
Offline macbob  
#10 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:06:05 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Member

Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2013Yahoo! NCAA March Madness - Gold: 2016PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Gold: 2014FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Silver: 2012PackersHome NFL Pick'em - Silver: 2012FleaFlicker Fantasy Football - Bronze: 2014

Joined: 10/12/2008(UTC)
Applause Given: 371
Applause Received: 323
gbguy20 said: Go to Quoted Post
Mccarthy essentially gave up on the run the minute Cedric went down. Granted, Alex Green was fucking terrible on all but 1 play so during the game I didn't hold it against him too much.

I was going to end it with "but damn those numbers," but when u look at Alex Green's number before his long run....you just want to say "damn those numbers" about those too.

IDK, I can't hold it against him THIS WEEK.


What about Kuhn? There were other options besides Green than the one Mike McCarthy chose (abandon the run). Kuhn's not going to break a 40 yarder, but he can pound it inside and can be a good lead-in to a play-action pass.

For someone who says he wants to run the ball, Mike McCarthy abandons the run incredibly quickly (and in the case of the Seattle game before the first play was run).
Rss Feed 
Users browsing this topic
Guest
3 Pages123>
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Notification

Icon
Error


Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (10m) : Why? What's the difference? Can you cook same meals with one?
hardrocker950 (15m) : Get a pressure cooker and your crock pot will collect dust lol
Zero2Cool (49m) : Bill Vinovich is our ref. You might remember him from 4th and 26.
Smokey (1h) : They were chicken livers, and they are fabulous . LOL
uffda udfa (1h) : Not if Matt Ryan puts up a 40 passer rating. :) The last two were unfavorable conditions. This is dome time.
Cheesey (2h) : Smokey, went to fire up the crock pot to slow cook some chicken gizzards, it burned out!
Zero2Cool (2h) : Aaron Rodgers' passer rating in his 4 career games at the Georgia Dome: 114.5, 136.8, 117.0, 125.5.
Zero2Cool (6h) : from Rob Reischel @robreischel
Zero2Cool (6h) : Rodgers has played in 2 NFC Championship games. QB ratings were 56.7 and 55.9. That's won't cut it Sunday
Porforis (6h) : Have to fill the 24/7 news cycle with something.
Smokey (7h) : True, Zero
Zero2Cool (7h) : Rodgers didn't draw it up, it was selected from options. Duh.
uffda udfa (9h) : Zeke Elliott tired of domestic violence investigation. NFL moving forward now.
Smokey (14h) : Did u fire up the crock pot ?
Smokey (14h) : Jolly good show ole chap ! LOL
Cheesey (14h) : Smokey! Darn spell check! LOL!
Cheesey (14h) : Hey smiley! Just saw your shout out! How bout them Packers!
Smokey (15h) : Hello Cheesey !
GoPack1984 (18h) : I hope not. Please be something like 41-28 Packers.
uffda udfa (18h) : I agree with Chmura. This looks like a double 40 burger.
uffda udfa (18h) : The hug on the sidelines?
uffda udfa (18h) : What seemed so emotional?
Zero2Cool (18h) : No, but I am curious why that seemed so emotional. I might be reading into it too much.
uffda udfa (18h) : Anyone ever get confused looking at Alex Van Pelt thinking it's MM?
uffda udfa (20h) : I hope they aren't going to dial it down believing in destiny .
Zero2Cool (21h) : Jason Wilde: Packers "feel like a team of destiny"
uffda udfa (22h) : They'll need all the Julio Joneses they can get.
Zero2Cool (23h) : Chmura: "I'll tell you this: Atlanta's going to score 40 points. They are. The #Packers are going to have to score 41."
Zero2Cool (16-Jan) : Damn-Falcons coach Dan Quinn tells reporters that WR Julio Jones (foot) will be limited this week but will be “ready to rock” on Sunday.
Zero2Cool (16-Jan) : Packers defense has a red zone INT in each of the last 3 games... Hyde with two of them. (One being the clutch 4thQ INT vs DET in Week 17)
Zero2Cool (16-Jan) : Randall Cobb, Damarious Randall, Quentin Rollins, James Starks, Clay Matthews, Ty Montgomery & Jared Cook. OUT
Zero2Cool (16-Jan) : Packers inactive list when they lost 33-32 to the Falcons week 8.
Zero2Cool (16-Jan) : There is no emphasis, it's just a little bit of info. Take it or leave it. No harm.
Smokey (16-Jan) : Zero, I believe that you and some others place too much emphasis upon data. no harm intended.
Zero2Cool (16-Jan) : It’s the 1st time since 1970 all 4 conference championship teams finished the regular season on winning streaks of 4+ games
Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2016 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 11 @ 12:00 PM
at Jaguars
Sunday, Sep 18 @ 7:30 PM
at Vikings
Sunday, Sep 25 @ 12:00 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Oct 2 @ 12:00 AM
BYE
Sunday, Oct 9 @ 7:30 PM
GIANTS
Sunday, Oct 16 @ 3:25 PM
COWBOYS
Thursday, Oct 20 @ 7:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Oct 30 @ 3:25 PM
at Falcons
Sunday, Nov 6 @ 3:25 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM
at Titans
Sunday, Nov 20 @ 7:30 PM
at Redskins
Monday, Nov 28 @ 7:30 PM
at Eagles
Sunday, Dec 4 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Dec 11 @ 3:25 PM
SEAHAWKS
Sunday, Dec 18 @ 12:00 PM
at Bears
Saturday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Jan 1 @ 7:30 PM
at Lions

Think About It
Think About It

Recent Topics
58m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Smokey

1h / Around The NFL / Smokey

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Smokey

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Porforis

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Porforis

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

6h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / PackFanWithTwins

18h / Fantasy Sports Talk / rabidgopher04

19h / Green Bay Packers Talk / uffda udfa

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Rick12


Packers Headlines