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Offline nerdmann  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 3:48:50 PM(UTC)
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His play hasn’t been bad by most people’s standards. He’s completed 68.8 percent of his passes, thrown 10 interceptions and four interceptions through the first four games. That’s good enough for a 97.0 passer rating, good for eighth in the league but well below the 122.5 mark of last season. That leaves Rodgers wanting more from himself.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 3:56:54 PM(UTC)
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Good find. I would have like to hear 12 give more specifics on what he feels he is doing wrong but thats ok. I feel that Rodgers is a bright guy and that bodes well as he will have a better chance of figuring out how to fix the rut. He has the physical skills he just needs to figure out how to get the vision for the best receiver in the play.
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Offline shield4life  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 4:00:15 PM(UTC)
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I still think his holding on to the ball more then he needs to. We need quicker and shorter plays.
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Offline macbob  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 4:30:09 PM(UTC)
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I agree with the criticisms expressed by others, but Aaron Rodgers is still performing toward the top of the league even though he's not having the best-season-a-quarterback's-ever-had like he did last year.

If we have to have him having 'best years ever in the history of the game' to win we'd better get used to disappointment--that kind of performance should not be expected to be the norm.
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Offline DarkaneRules  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:05:59 PM(UTC)
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I watch these replays and the team is playing like crap and the calls are sometimes curious. I see the camera go behind rodgers and the middle of field is empty. It is like the wide receivers go missing or something.
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Offline K_Buz  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 6:19:29 PM(UTC)
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No shit...
Offline zombieslayer  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 8:05:18 PM(UTC)
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I think the worst stat of all is the sacks. 21 sacks in 5 games. That's going to lead to an injury.

Aaron Rodgers needs to get rid of the ball sooner and stop trying to throw a TD every play.

I think if he starts looking for 7 yard completions and we throw in a few screens and a lot more check downs, we'll have a completely different team.
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Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 8:33:23 PM(UTC)
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And here is a prime example. Had he made this play, game over. And it was his fault it wasn't made.

Scenario 6:53 left in the game. Down by 1. 2nd & 5 after a long 24 yard Jones reception and a 5 yard Green run. Now for the play breakdown

Nelson on the near side, Cobb in the slot, Jones on the far side. 2 deep safeties, one not seen on the near side.
Presnap

Nelson and Jones are each covered. But the DB over Cobb blitzes. Cobb runs a slant and is wide open for a minimum of a 1st down. Also preventing the resulting sack and another sack following that forcing a punt.
Wide Open

Now the kicker. Complete that pass, and Cobb is almost guaranteed a TD.
Coulda been.
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Offline RaiderPride  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:00:58 PM(UTC)
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One thing Aaron is that we all perhaps do not appreciate, he is always accountable. That is special. That is a trait of a true champion and leader.

“My solemn promise is I’m going to work every day to get better. I’m going to clean up some of the things I’m not doing as well as I should. But, the proof is in the pudding. Right now I’m not getting it done. I’ve got to look at myself first,”


-- Aaron Rodgers --


Who the hell uses the word "Solemn" in today's society? That is too cool, and almost biblical of nature.

And after 21 sacks...

Perhaps Arron is a big fan of Gov Bill Owens philosophy

"It is the solemn obligation of a leader always to be a leader. Even when - perhaps especially when - you don't feel like being a leader."

-- Colorado Gov. Bill Owens --
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
Offline doddpower  
#10 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:53:15 PM(UTC)
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heh, is Cobb ALWAYS open? Man, that guy should never leave the field.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:24:50 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins Go to Quoted Post

Now the kicker. Complete that pass, and Cobb is almost guaranteed a TD.
Coulda been.


Did he get sacked on this play instead?

in other news, I stumbled upon a fun fact on twitter just now.

I'll copy and paste in order to give the dude credit:
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Daniel Bonney ‏@djbonney138
I looked up AR's stats from 2010 and he is better thru the 1st 5 games this year than 1st 5 the year he won SB


food for thought. While Rodgers has obviously not been playing his best, and he has obviously taken sacks on the same plays he had WIDE OPEN receivers, our level of expectation for the man is through the roof.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:37:44 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: doddpower Go to Quoted Post
heh, is Cobb ALWAYS open? Man, that guy should never leave the field.


Ikr? We should use him in that HB role more often.. They may go to that more with Benson being hurt, even though I like Alex Green.
Offline nerdmann  
#13 Posted : Tuesday, October 9, 2012 11:54:57 PM(UTC)
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heh, is Cobb ALWAYS open? Man, that guy should never leave the field.


There's some reason they're not featuring him more.

Not sure what it is, but the kid is EXPLOSIVE.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:36:42 AM(UTC)
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Aaron Rodgers wrote:
My solemn promise is I'm going to work every day to get better. I'm going to clean up some of the things I'm not doing as well as I should. But, the proof is in the pudding. Right now I'm not getting it done. I've got to look at myself first.

But I can tell you nothing has slipped in the way of preparation or the way that I practice or the energy and leadership that I take to it. Which is probably the most frustrating thing. You can't really point to one thing. I just haven't performed as well on Sundays as I'm used to performing.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:50:16 AM(UTC)
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And here is proof that Aaron Rodgers checks out PackersHome.com lol

Aaron Rodgers wrote:
You really have to put it behind you. Monday, you come in a watch the film and after that it’s time to move on, as frustrating as it is. There are some losses that stick with you a little longer, but you really have to be able to refocus quickly. We have a good opponent this week and an opportunity to get to 3-3 – which is where we were in 2010 when we went on a little bit of a run.


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#16 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 6:53:03 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post



food for thought. While Rodgers has obviously not been playing his best, and he has obviously taken sacks on the same plays he had WIDE OPEN receivers, our level of expectation for the man is through the roof.


Isn't that the point of the year where Finley was catching everything we forced to him? I thought Rodgers was playing even more lights out.

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Offline DarkaneRules  
#17 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:40:50 AM(UTC)
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He is certainly playing his way out of elite status. Right now when people talk about elite QBs Eli Manning has definitely taken his place and last game probably confirmed the newest athletic and accurate QB on the block is Andrew Luck. I think we would all love to see another game like the Falcons playoff game where Rodgers just takes the damn thing over. That would be awesome. But ON THE FLIPSIDE, maybe Rodgers thinks he can do that even when the opportunity is not there, or maybe worse yet, the coach Mike McCarthy is feeding into this IDEAL situation. It is reason for concern in my opinion. What do you guys think?
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Offline PackFanWithTwins  
#18 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:55:10 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gbguy20 Go to Quoted Post
Did he get sacked on this play instead?


food for thought. While Rodgers has obviously not been playing his best, and he has obviously taken sacks on the same plays he had WIDE OPEN receivers, our level of expectation for the man is through the roof.


Yes This play ended in a sack. Which also put them in a 3rd and long which resulted in another sack. Forcing a punt.

Myself, I have tried to keep my expectations for Rodgers and the team in general realistic. I see many people doing the same with Rodgers as we did with Favre in the mid 90's. We need to not expect as much, we also need to not credit him so much and realistically critique and blame when needed. And do it evenly for him as well as his recievers.

A play this last game comes to mind. Finley's drop, that is what people want to remember, Finley dropped the pass, which he did, and with his skill and salary, he should be catching it. But it was not a good placed pass. It was on Finley's hip, which sounds good, except, Finly was running away from Rodgers towards the sideline, and the defender was trailing Finley. that is not where to throw that ball. Throwing it there makes the ball interceptable if jumped right, and makes it harder to catch. Finley had to reach down to his hip and backwards for the catch. Put that ball in front of Finley where he doesn't ahve to turn around as much on a run, and where he can keep his arms up and use his hands in front of him and that ball probably gets caught.

He has thrown balls into the dirt, he let two sail. Both could have injured his either Jordy or Williams as they were hit while covered. Lucky the DBs didn't light them up.

His throw from past the LOS. I can't be the only person watching who was screaming. Run the ball already. And that play resulted not only in a penalty, the forced throw also resulted in Finley's injury.
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Offline Yerko  
#19 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:31:29 AM(UTC)
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This is a relief to see and shows that Aaron has great leadership qualities (suck on that Blake Baratz). Only good can come from this. Adjustments will be made and Rodgers could possibly go off this next game. Its up to the rest of the team to follow, take accountability for their mistakes, and play the game.

Have a really good feeling about the game this weekend.
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Offline Cal2GreenBay  
#20 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:08:18 AM(UTC)
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Did you all watch the 49ers game?
Alex Smith used his clunky Phillip Rivers type release and wobbled a pass over to Vernon Davis 40 yards down the field and Davis had no one within 8-10 yards of him.

When's the last time you saw Jermichael Finley that open?

It's a 33% knock on Finley, 33% on no running game threat to sell the play action, and 33% on receivers having NO break away speed.

The 9ers threat of a running game, opens up the pass. The threat of Moss opens things up for V.Davis and Crabtree.


There is no major THREAT to the defense like that on the Packers right now.

G. Jennings doesn't scare anyone anymore like Moss.
Finley doesn't scare anyone like V.Davis.
The running game is not bruising like Frank Gore. ONLY Cobb.

All of those non threats result in tight 1 on 1 coverage, nickel packages with DBs clogging throwing lanes, and daring Green Bay to run.

This literally FORCES Aaron Rodgers to play like...well..good old cellphone genital guy. Gunsling it through triple coverage and hope for the best.

Aaron's taking the hit, but he's in his way, calling out his team to raise their games up too.

Fall from Elite is starting to become a good description. From Elite to Very good.




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#21 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:42:05 AM(UTC)
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I think you're mistaken about Greg Jennings. Sure, no one is scared NOW because he's been dinged up. When healthy, you damn well better believe people fear him. That's why he's double covered. He isn't the fast guy, but sure runs a pretty route. Kind of like an Antonio Freeman with better hands.
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:11:11 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Cal2GreenBay Go to Quoted Post
Did you all watch the 49ers game?
Alex Smith used his clunky Phillip Rivers type release and wobbled a pass over to Vernon Davis 40 yards down the field and Davis had no one within 8-10 yards of him.

When's the last time you saw Jermichael Finley that open?

It's a 33% knock on Finley, 33% on no running game threat to sell the play action, and 33% on receivers having NO break away speed.

The 9ers threat of a running game, opens up the pass. The threat of Moss opens things up for V.Davis and Crabtree.


There is no major THREAT to the defense like that on the Packers right now.

G. Jennings doesn't scare anyone anymore like Moss.
Finley doesn't scare anyone like V.Davis.
The running game is not bruising like Frank Gore. ONLY Cobb.

All of those non threats result in tight 1 on 1 coverage, nickel packages with DBs clogging throwing lanes, and daring Green Bay to run.

This literally FORCES Aaron Rodgers to play like...well..good old cellphone genital guy. Gunsling it through triple coverage and hope for the best.

Aaron's taking the hit, but he's in his way, calling out his team to raise their games up too.

Fall from Elite is starting to become a good description. From Elite to Very good.






It's all about abandoning the run, imo.

The Packers dominated the first half, sucked shit in the second.
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:22:35 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool Go to Quoted Post
I think you're mistaken about Greg Jennings. Sure, no one is scared NOW because he's been dinged up. When healthy, you damn well better believe people fear him. That's why he's double covered. He isn't the fast guy, but sure runs a pretty route. Kind of like an Antonio Freeman with better hands.


I miss seeing his pretty routes. One always stands out when this is brought to attention.


Sorry for being off-topic.
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#24 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:36:51 AM(UTC)
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Can someone...ANYONE...confirm that Rodgers called out the practice squad DBs either in this interview with Wilde or some other recent time? I posted this story and Bears fans keep bringing this up and calling him a douche for it.

I think it is 100% okay to call out the practice squad guys. Those are the guys that are giving you the practice and the opponent's scheme throughout the week. Maybe they are dogging it? Not only that, but Rodgers isn't placing blame everywhere else but himself. He is holding himself accountable and in being a leader, holding others accountable as well. Football is a team game...

One guy actually went as far to say practice squad isn't part of the team. That is where the convo ended...

I remember "back in the day" my coaches would always call out the 2nd stringers for dogging it while being the scout team for the 1st stringers.
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#25 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:47:17 AM(UTC)
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Can someone...ANYONE...confirm that Rodgers called out the practice squad DBs either in this interview with Wilde or some other recent time? I posted this story and Bears fans keep bringing this up and calling him a douche for it.



Here are his interviews with Jason Wilde
http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/page.php?page_id=360
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